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Old 02-27-2014, 11:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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When I rode back past the dealer Wednesday it was gone.

I didn't actually stop but I have to say.... ┬*GM has completely given up on the BOF SUVs.



The new truck reminds me of Toyotas fullsizes SUVs, its disproportionally tall looking, and looks as if the frame was so far below the body they had to add side skirts. Why is GM continuing to take these trucks so up market, sales have decreased since the last attempts. If people were buying them when they were extremely similar to trucks, and sales dived at the introduction of the plastic CUV fighting GMT900 style, why push it harder up market and further from the buyers that bought them before the SUV boom?

This market that brought people that needed the capabilities into showroom is now unexistant, ┬*it would be nice to see Ford or Dodge or someone introduce a fullsize utilitarian SUV similar to the excursion or pre 07 GM.



EDIT: As if this wasn't enough, I just found out GM has completely dropped the 3/4 ton suburban and Yukon XL, stating slow sales...

Well perhaps if they didn't deviate so far from the truck frame it is based on the cost difference wouldn't be so great. And even more importantly if they actually offered consumers the 8.1l or 6.6L duramax as traditionally the 3/4 SUVs with highest resale value, they may be able to move a greater number.

GM completely called in the 3/4 suburban for 07, and somehow expects decent results? The 3/4 Suburban gave the buyer maybe 2,000# more capacity, and additionally better┬*trailer control. Whereas the truck it was supposed to be based on was rated at 13k#.



RE-EDIT: Also found out AWD is no longer an option for GMC and most likely Caddy, 2WD or 4WD only. Not necessarily bad news I suppose, But still disheartening. Suggested reasons for the loss of AWD option was safety(wtf?), and fuel economy.



Sorry needed to rant.

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Old 02-28-2014, 10:29 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I wonder what government agencies will do. The 2500 Suburbans seem to be popular with LEO and first responders.
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Old 02-28-2014, 11:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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First thing I usually think of when I hear 2500 suburban is the yellow ones the DOT owns, they have a healthy mix of the last 4 generations of 2500 suburbans
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Good lord Hummer, I NEVER thought YOU of all people would be down on an BOF, V8, 4x4 GM vehicle. But then I read your rant and realized that for you the truck wasn't "Man Enough" for you.┬*

It is sad and ironic to see the BOF crowd start to rant about the death of their favorite vehicles like those of us who loved the big V8, BOF, RWD cars and wagons that they killed. One of us wants the Suburban the way it was in the early to mid 00' and the other wants a 1989 Caprice Classic LS Brougham. One of us is already completely out of luck, the other might soon be.┬*
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Old 03-01-2014, 03:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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After reading this I decided to look into the new GMC/Chevy/Cadillac Suvs to see what they were all about. I am not at all interested in owning any of these so there is no personal bias. The best that I can come up with is that the 2015s are more powerful, more fuel efficient, more spacious, quieter, more towing capacity, have the exact AWD/4WD availability and configurations as the 2014s, I don't know what they were before that. They only negitive is they're no longer available as 2500 3/4 ton because of poor sales. They're very expensive, but they have been for some time, but that too is relative. A nicely equipped Denali runs about the same price as a nicely equipped Cadillac CTS, which sounds about right to me.
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Old 03-01-2014, 01:52 PM   #6 (permalink)
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There are qualities that have been improved, but that ends up with a large price change to consumers. And while those qualities will bring some into the dealer, they're pushing an increasingly large number of buyers out. There are more f-150 buyers than BMW 3 buyers. Chevy is suppose to be GMs economy brand, yet you can option a Tahoe to over 70k, that means 100k escalades are either already here or just around the corner.



I think a large number applauding GM aren't the ones purchasing these vehicles. They have been attacked in the past for being rough on the edges, well some people are more than willing to take rubber floors, vinyl seats, and 17-less inch rims, an even an LS style engine vs the LT, if they don't have a 30-40k premium tacked on for it.



Dan, SUVs have an advantage of being multiuse vehicles, even long after the next new thing comes out, they can tow, be used by businesses to haul work materials or people, 4wd option gives it value until its either rusted away or totaled and of course they're always good for daily driving.
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If you want a full size SUV┬* that has a start point of under $50K you don't have a lot of choice. Expedition, Suburban, and I guess Sequoia
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┬*I don't want a fancy 50k SUV that completely lacks the truck like features that I need. Yea I can get a supposably traditional SUV, but its incapable compared to its predecessors.
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All is not lost...

http://www.guideautoweb.com/en/articles/24215/gmc_to_build_new_hummer-like_off-road_suv/



actually this is a much better link

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/03/gmc-to-reportedly-offer-unique-off-road-oriented-vehicle/
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Hummer said All is not lost... http://www.guideautoweb.com/en/artic..._off-road_suv/ ┬* actually this is a much better link http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/03/gmc-to-reportedly-offer-unique-off-road-oriented-vehicle/ There isn't much info out there yet, but at least they're talking about it
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