By on November 22, 2021

As the character Q said to Captain Picard on the series finale of Star Trek: The Next Generation, “All good things must come to an end.” This time around, the phrase refers to a snippet of information about the mighty Hellcat engine family, plus a few other details gleaned in a conversation with Tim Kuniskis at last week’s L.A. Auto Show.

To put it bluntly now’s the time to act if you want a brand-new Hellcat-powered vehicle.

According to the crew at Motor Authority, the Dodge CEO was frank in his assessment of the Hellcat’s future, telling them “I will have this car, this platform, this powertrain as we know it through the end of ’23. There’s two more years to buy a Hellcat, then it’s history.”

It doesn’t get much clearer than that unless one takes your hand and leads you right into a time machine whose destination is set for 2023.

This isn’t a surprise, of course, given the myriad emission and fuel economy regulations, not to mention the small matter of looming electrification plans. On that front, Kuniskis promised Mopar gearheads will see those efforts bear tire-smoking fruit in 2024 when Dodge unleashes an all-electric muscle car. Look for that rig to be the demarcation point between the Hellcat era and an EV future. Dodge suits told Motor Authority to expect a concept version of that car to appear in the first quarter of next year. A shadowy glimpse of that machine, along with a suggestion that the old ‘Fratzog’ logo will appear on it, was shown during the Stellantis EV day earlier this year when the company laid out something of a roadmap for its electrified future.

Speaking of, Stellantis boss Carlos Tavares told finance nerds attendees at an event for Wall Street types that each of the brands under the company umbrella has been given a full decade to try and make their case as a going concern.

“We’re giving each a chance, giving each a time window of 10 years and giving funding for 10 years to do a core model strategy,” Tavares said in May. “The CEOs need to be clear in brand promise, customers, targets, and brand communications.” Nothing like a potential date carved into your tombstone to spur action, eh? There are 14 brands currently under the Stellantis tree.

That missive likely brought the Hellcat’s demise into clearer focus for those pulling the strings at Dodge; sketching out a plan for enthusiast-oriented EVs is all part and parcel of answering those four pillars in the Tavares mission statement.

Meanwhile, get yer Hellcat fix while you can. After 2023, it seems the only way you’ll be able to buy one is by raising a bidder’s paddle at Barrett-Jackson. Come to think of it, that’ll probably be the place where the right to buy ‘The Last Hellcat Ever Made’ will be auctioned off.

[Image: Dodge]

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114 Comments on “Hellcat Era to Wrap Up in 2023...”


  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    Well I predicted around 2016/17 LX would go to 2025, looks like I was a year off (unless they keep it going for Charger PPVs into 2025).

  • avatar
    Kyree

    Well, hey…it’s been a good run. And that still gives:

    1. Stellantis another two years to come out with (probably overpriced) special editions, which will be more attractive with the discontinuation lingering on the horizon

    2. People another two years to cash in on their retirement funds in order to be able to afford said overpriced special editions

    Although…Stellantis is usually pretty fair about the pricing of its special-edition and performance vehicles. They’re good value for the money at MSRP. It’s the dealers tacking on $30K or $40K worth of ADP that makes them ridiculously priced (have you *seen* what Ram TRXs are going for?). Which the dealers have a right to do, but it does mean that fewer people can afford them. Hopefully, Stellantis has a way of tamping down on the markup greed that’s within the parameters of their dealership/franchise agreements…to make sure these cars remain in the hands of everyday people who will actually drive and enjoy them, and not optimistic future-Barrett-Jackson sellers. “Oh, you’ve been marking up Jailbreak-editions by 50%? I guess we’ll just allocate you fewer Grand Cherokee Ls…”

    • 0 avatar
      pmirp1

      Why would people cash their retirement fund to buy a vehicle? That is the worst idea ever.

      First you should never ever buy Hellcat like vehicles with retirement funds if you have less than $1,000,000. In general a vehicle (other than last couple years) is a depreciating asset. So you are throwing money away.

      Second, if you have $1,000,000 (or more) in retirement funds, that is 100,000-200,000 per year growth(average index fund return of 10-20%). Just take a loan for that Hellcat. Let’s say an $80,000 Hellcat has a loan of $1,200 per month. You can easily pay that monthly base on your rates of return.

      • 0 avatar
        ToolGuy

        @pmirp1,
        Based on your advice I have sold all my umbrellas – thank you.

      • 0 avatar

        Because you only live once? One of the reasons so many corvette owners are in their 70’s is because they retired before they decided they could finally spend some money on themselves.

      • 0 avatar
        Kyree

        I was being facetious. Of course it’s an awful idea.

      • 0 avatar
        Arthur Dailey

        @pmirp1: If you know where I can get 10 to 20% annual growth in my investments then please let me know. Please.

        • 0 avatar
          pmirp1

          Arthur Dailey,
          S&P 500 index funds have returned 24% this year so far.

          Go to Vanguard. Choose balanced funds. It is pretty easy to navigate. Some funds have minimum investments of 5000, but some are open to all.

          Here is a good one

          https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/performance/voo

          https://www.slickcharts.com/sp500/returns

          • 0 avatar
            bullnuke

            My last employer hooked us up with Vanguard. It is a great financial business that took care of me very, very well. I absolutely recommend Vanguard.

        • 0 avatar
          ClydeBenke

          Nvidia, I’ve gotten a 1,248.60% return for the last five years. My 30K original investment is now 3 million. It made up for the 1991 300ZX I bought in 1991 for 28K cash. I later figured out if I had bought Intel stock with that 28K, I would have profited 1 million dollars by the time Intel crashed in 2000. So I called it my million dollar Z.

          • 0 avatar
            ToolGuy

            @ClydeBenke,

            Recommendation: Cash out ~$60K of NVDA and get yourself a nice Telluride. Then you can call it your $600 Kia.

            [Advice: Never take my recommendations regarding money or vehicles.]

  • avatar
    slavuta

    This car costs more than MIG21 I always dreamed to fly in
    https://www.hangar67.com/aircraft/1980-mig-21/9576

    • 0 avatar
      Greg Hamilton

      I was always partial to the MIG 15. It was a simple beautiful airplane. It was a shame that it was also a death machine.
      I remember reading that Louis Blériot was quite taken aback (to put it mildly) when he was told he marvelous invention would be used in war.
      The MIG 15 wouldn’t exist without the Rolls Royce jet engine, but that is another story.

      • 0 avatar
        slavuta

        Yea, P51 also did not do too well without Rolls-Royce engine .
        Now, why Mig15 was a death machine?

        • 0 avatar
          spamvw

          Mig 15 had some Design Flaws,

          Fuel tank problem is one I seem to remember reading about.

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            Every airplane has design flaws. For example, recently, a design flaw downed 2 very new Boeing 737 MAX planes.

        • 0 avatar
          Greg Hamilton

          Slavuta,
          The brilliantly designed MIG15 was a death machine. Its intended purpose was to destroy enemy aircraft and kill the enemy, and it was quite successful.

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            It was good at what it was good – shoot and run. It was very successful mostly because it was flown by Soviet aces at first. In fact, results were so good, Moscow gradually pulled them back and replaced with closer to average pilots. Moscow was afraid that UN will declare war against USSR. The commander there was top Soviet WW2 ace – Kozhedub, who wasn’t suppose to fly himself but he did. And was even forced to bail out once. Something Germans couldn’t do to him in 2 years of war.

    • 0 avatar
      mcs

      My favorite was the MiG-31 Foxhound. Amazing speed and altitude capability.

    • 0 avatar

      I always preferred F4 Phantoms over any of Migs because they looked mean and cool but primarily because they were Communist Killing Machines.

      • 0 avatar
        Art Vandelay

        Seconded.

      • 0 avatar
        slavuta

        You’re joining Nazis? Because only Nazis had a goal to kill communists since they associated communists with Jews.

        Americans did not really cared to kill communists. If they did, why not fight USSR, China… ok Albania! Albanians did not consider Russians to be true communists – that how communists they were, and US did nothing.

        Communists are not the issue. The issue is totalitarianism. What, Stalin was a communist? Or he was the man who killed all the communists, surrounded himself with loyal puppets and called them – communists.

        Communists as isolated group of people who voluntarily decided to live in such way, present to danger. e.g. Israeli Kibutzniks.
        On the other side, communist or not – any totalitarian regime is a problem. And you see it yourself, Biden’s puppeteers went a long way in this direction and we feel it. Even though they don’t call themselves communists.

        • 0 avatar
          SPPPP

          Good post there, Slavuta … about the words and what they really mean behind the official definition.

          I always sort of wanted to fly an aircraft, but it didn’t work out that way. Which one? Who could say; there are too many amazing machines to choose. (Though the selection of vintage aircraft in flying condition is sadly low.)

          Did you guys see the movie Thirteen Days? I found the F-8 reconnaissance scene pretty thrilling.

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            Did you guys see the movie Thirteen Days?

            Now I must watch

          • 0 avatar
            SPPPP

            Just in the interest of full disclosure, the move was pretty slow at times. And it came off as a hymn to the Kennedy brothers. But there were some good parts. The F-8 scene was one. I think the U2 scenes were good as well (though brief).

          • 0 avatar
            ToolGuy

            Re: Thirteen Days. 4 minutes in – does Costner’s ‘accent’ get any better from this point?

          • 0 avatar
            Art Vandelay

            No @ToolGuy…It does not. It is bad enough to make that movie unwatchable.

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            Done watching! There were plenty of interesting cars as well.
            I think, they overplayed u2 run away from missiles.
            It is extremely slow plane and with the huge wingspan, which will make it not very maneuverable. I doubt the authenticity of that run. It climbs 9,000 ft/min. In comparison, MIG 21 was 58,000 ft./min.
            I would think, u2 would fly at max altitude, especially in 1962, after Soviet already shot it down in 1961. U2 would be dead in the water against missiles that can reach it. Best bet is to fly as straight as possible in the direction away from point of missile launch. So, if launch was on the 3 o’clock, turn to the left to 9 o’clock position and hope that missile will run out of fuel before it reaches you. But even this might not work well.
            Producer overdid u2 capability.

        • 0 avatar
          Lou_BC

          Wow. For once I have to mostly agree with slavuto.

          “The issue is totalitarianism”.

          Exactly.

          • 0 avatar
            Arthur Dailey

            Agree, he nicely explained the difference between how Americans ‘perceive’ communism and the reality. Stalin executed or exiled those Russians in leadership positions who actually believed in communism and imposed a dictatorship. Not that difficult in Russia as many Russians still accept/believe in the ‘strong man’ theory of government. Not surprising as their nation has no real record of democracy, so it is quite foreign to them. However under the Soviets, the education system was indeed excellent particularly in regards to literature, mathematics and science. The knowledge that most Russians of the Soviet era have of English/American literature surpasses that of most who were born/raised/educated in the USA or Canada.

            And most Americans are sorely lacking in regards to world history or political philosophy. Hence their inability to differentiate between totalitarianism, dictatorship, socialism, social democracy and even anti-American nationalism, and communism.

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            “Russians still accept/believe in the ‘strong man’ theory of government. Not surprising as their nation has no real record of democracy”

            Arthur,

            the problem is that the west has subverted definition of “democracy”. Democracy suppose to be a process and not the goal. But in the west it became a goal, a golden fleece, a religion. And under that definition you see real beginning of totalitarian regime.
            Example – Trump was democratically elected. But elites (ruling cast) did not like that so they did everything to take him down. Wait, who is anti-democracy now? – obviously-USA. As long as Clintons, Bushes, Chaneys, Obamas, etc, rule – this is democracy. As soon as outsider wins an election, he must be destroyed because (their words) he is a threat to democracy.
            And today the globalists turned democracy into a WWW. Here is what they do. For example, Orban is a conservative, democratically elected PM of Hungary. He is now under attack from US democrats and EU. Dems support communist-nazi coalition in Hungary against Orban, because Orban does not kneel to their values. So, the international democracy today is this – power players like EU and US install people they want to see as leaders of other countries and use them to conduct western interest, which is not always corresponds to the interest of the people of the given country.

            And Russia said, this is it. We had enough of serving your interests 1991-1999. Ukraine has 7 presidents since inception. Only living there becomes harder and harder with every cycle. And today they have one who started with 75% and now 20%. And country is destroyed. Obviously, Russian way during same period worked better.

          • 0 avatar

            Communism == Totalitarianism. Even in America.

          • 0 avatar
            probert

            @slavuta: You make this stuff up? WTF are you talking about. Trump is a fascist who was impeached twice because he is corrupt and involved in criminal activity. He led an attempted coup against the US government. Prior to that, his pandemic “response” resulted in hundreds of thousands unnecessary deaths. He is a vile sh*tstain, and that’s why most Americans despise him.

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            probert

            If you need a doctor, use the phone book

        • 0 avatar
          mcs

          @slavuta: What do you think of the Ukraine invasion talk?

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            @mcs

            How long this talk is going on? 7 years? I mean, if Ukraine will grab a pen to put a signature on the NATO agreement, there will be an invasion.

            Right now, this is simply a hype. Only US officials, news, etc talk about some kind of invasion, plus Zelenskiy periodically says something. But Ukrainian chief of State Border Patrol Service said – “we do not see any unusual activity. All activity happens tens and even hundreds KM away from the border.”
            Last time around, CNN showed Ukrainian tanks on the railroad platforms while claiming they were Russian. Bozos could not tell the difference between prominent Ukrainian Railroad symbolic vs Russian.

            Why this is happening.
            1. tensions on the Belarus – Poland border. Poland brought 15,000 army personnel, tanks, etc, to stop 3,000 Kurdish migrants. Russia brought some military too, on the other side. Belarus and Russia have integrated forces, like mini NATO. Belarus, north of Ukraine, so it is never too far.

            2. Recently, Russia signed a law that allows now to treat imports from Donbass as domestic product. Which means, they will be less taxed and more competitive on the Russian market. Including against products from the Ukraine mainland. This caused Ukrainian administration great deal of pain. So, they need somehow to attract attention to this.

            3. Also recently, Lukashenko asked Putin – “when will you invite me to Crimea?” This is 180 degree turn from the previous policy. This is de-facto recognition of Crimea being Russian. And this happened because Ukraine backstabbed Lukashenko and sided with EU on several issues. Including sanctioning Belarus for the airplane grounding. Lukashenko did not want to hurt ties with Ukraine, it was Zelenskiy who did this. He is a puppet of US. They have him by the [email protected] He appeared in recent financial papers – that was a warning shot.

          • 0 avatar
            el scotto

            @msc Sir, Slavuta desperately tries to display Russia and its intentions as nothing as sweetness and light. Or his buddy Putin; one dictator taking place of another dictator, will show the world his Unicorn farm and the shiny glitter the unicorns fart. Pick up Foreign Policy magazine sometime and give it a read. You’ll like it.

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            el scotto,

            my buddy Putin does not penalize his constituents for not having COVID certificate in public places. That is in Ukraine.
            This is in Ukraine where Nazis (german-style) marching on the streets of the city they never lived in. In Russia this is not possible.
            I get it – you don’t like Putin. But Russians do. What is your issue? You like Biden? – stick with him.

      • 0 avatar
        mcs

        The F4s were kind of pigs though. Lacked maneuverability. The F-16 was more nimble. I’ll say one thing for the Phantoms, they were loud and shook the ground when they took off. Just awesome sound. Though, as far as communist-killing-machines go, it’s hard to beat Puff.

        • 0 avatar
          ravenuer

          mcs: quick story. I was a Seabee in about 67-68, running a Cat D8 dozer at the end of the runway at Danang AB. Got off the D8 to do something when 2 F4s took off simultaneously and both hit FULL AB just as they got to the end of the runway.
          Literally knocked me to the ground! Literally.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          I heard a little bit about Puff when I was much younger. Between it and the AC-130 the lesson seemed to me, be somewhere else.

    • 0 avatar
      ToolGuy

      @slavuta,

      All the best aircraft are Pointy on the Front. (Sorry to say it out loud, but it is Absolute Truth.)

      [Blunt truth = Good. Blunt aircraft = No Good.]

      • 0 avatar
        slavuta

        ToolGuy

        supreme leader, you executed Nadal, so now don’t get pointy Beard of Doom.. Pointy is scary…

        Enter British Lightning. It was kinda looking like Mig21 in front. It was waay ahead. Fast like modern jets. Double stack engines that did not need afterburners.

        And don’t forget to check how a mechanic had to take off in it and then landed 12 minutes later.

        • 0 avatar
          ToolGuy

          “Supreme Leader, I think perhaps some of your information about bombs is coming from cartoons.”

          “Nonsense – I have been watching a research films.”

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            I’m sure slavuto thinks “The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle” is a series of training video’s were Boris Badenov is the hero.

  • avatar
    ajla

    “No, we’re not worried. Our customers buy Duff for its robust taste, not its alcoholic content. I predict our new alcohol-free ‘Duff Zero’ will sell even better than our previous brand.”

    youtu.be/89sLHXYQUpM

  • avatar
    pmirp1

    We all have Branden to thank for what is to come. Electrics with 250 mile range that in winter time will go down to 150 miles and then take one hour to charge. so my trip from Atlanta to Savannah in theory will take 8 hours instead of current four hours.

    I am going to order another Tahoe RST after I take delivery of the green one in January so I never have to face the electrics. When one Tahoe is in the shop or resting, I take the other on the road.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      Nice straw man.

      Every EV purchased since 2010 has been a voluntary transaction. CAFE and emissions requirements have been rising for decades.

      Although Uncle Joe panders to the crowd that elected him, the climate change club is way bigger than him – just look at Europe.

      It will be a very long tome before anyone forces you to only buy an EV. But when that happens, the product will be way better than what’s available today.

      Anyway, that 250-mile trip from Atlanta to Savannah can me made today in several EVs, even in the winter, for the same price as the Tahoe RST.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        Yeah, but you don’t get the point here – he can really pwn the libs in that Tahoe.

        • 0 avatar
          pmirp1

          FreedMike, “what does pwn the libs” mean? Do you mean to say own the libs? You should slow down and spell check or re-read your comments instead of quickly saying something that makes no sense.

          As I have said before, I do not get in arguments with people. I don’t own no one, liberals or conservatives. I like what I like and don’t mind what others do. It is when they start forcing high gas prices on us (Branden’s policies) or force car companies to go electric that I get upset. And I stand up for my rights. Hope that is clear enough for you.

          • 0 avatar
            N8iveVA

            pmirp1 “FreedMike, “what does pwn the libs” mean? Do you mean to say own the libs? You should slow down and spell check or re-read your comments instead of quickly saying something that makes no sense.”

            Maybe you shouldn’t be jumping on someone for an obvious typo when you’re typing things like “We all have Branden to thank for what is to come.” The word is “Brandon” and using it really tells us enough about you.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            @n8iveva:

            https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/pwn-what-it-means-and-how-you-say-it

            I didn’t make the Branden/Brandon crack.

      • 0 avatar
        pmirp1

        SCE to AUX, In about six years since I have been traveling the trip form Atlanta to Savannah I have only seen three Teslas and no other electric on I-16. That should tell you all you need to know about viability of electrics on out of town trips. Let me spell it out for you, they don’t work. Electrics are city vehicles only if you have a home.

        • 0 avatar
          FreedMike

          “In about six years since I have been traveling the trip form Atlanta to Savannah I have only seen three Teslas and no other electric on I-16.”

          Should I tell him that I see Teslas all the time heading up to the mountains on I-70? Nah. It’s his world, where everyone should drive a Tahoe because he does. We just live in it.

          • 0 avatar
            golden2husky

            Don’t tell him. I saw plenty of Superchargers and other charging stations at rest stops on I95 this summer and more were under construction. Then again, the “Branden” comment tells you all you need to know. Why would a sitting president want to push up gas prices? It is a death knell at the polls and only fools think Biden can magically drive down prices if “he wanted to”…prices can drop by more product availability. That means the oil industry could produce more and lower the price but why would they? Demand is being met and the tight supply is bolstering their profit that wilted during the height of the pandemic.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            Oh, I’m sure that when gas prices come down – which they will – guys like this will almost certainly sing Biden’s praises straight to heaven. Bet the house on it.

          • 0 avatar
            el scotto

            @FreedMike Sir, for some science never ever overcomes anecdotes and preconceived bias. You have to consider your source.

    • 0 avatar
      gasser

      Sounds like a plan, as long as you don’t expect your new Tahoe to have heated seats. GM is out of the needed chips and no word if they will be able to be retrofitted.

    • 0 avatar
      mcs

      ” 250 mile range that in winter time will go down to 150 miles”

      Atlanta and Savannah don’t get cold enough to knock the range down that far. Here’s a standard range Model 3 with 263 Miles range. At 32F at 75 MPH, it still manages 200+ miles:
      https://insideevs.com/reviews/465714/tesla-model-3-standard-range-plus-cold-range-test/

      Here’s a test at -22F with a 250-mile range Model 3. It travels 109 miles.
      https://insideevs.com/news/498554/tesla-model-3-range-extreme-cold/

      It’s never been -22F in Atlanta.

      For the price of a tahoe, you could get a 300+ mile range EV that could make it to Savannah in one shot even in the cold.

      • 0 avatar
        Art Vandelay

        Based on my experiences growing up in Atlanta, if it is that cold and there is even a hint of ice all of the range in the world isn’t getting you anywhere unless you are rocking Bigfoot and can drive over all of the stopped traffic.

        • 0 avatar
          pmirp1

          Art Vandelay, In Atlanta it gets below freezing many times a year. It is snow that is rare. People work and play fine in cold weather. At the first sign of snow, all hell breaks lose. The electrics lose range in cold and there is no a way a sensible person will take a electric out of town for more than 200 mile trip. That is a fact, and if you drive to Savannah from Atlanta you do not see electrics on I-16. But hey, city folks are scared of their own shadows so they don’t leave the comfort of their little electrified neighborhoods.

          • 0 avatar
            JimC31

            I drove a Model 3 700 miles across your country and back a couple years ago. It was fun, and it was only in desolate northern Michigan where we had to make a slightly annoying detour to get to a Supercharger.

            It’s hilarious how commenters here seem to be living in 1997, and somehow have never driven a modern EV or know anyone with one, despite being here meaning you apparently have an above-average interest in automobiles. Being so ignorant requires EFFORT at this point.

          • 0 avatar
            Art Vandelay

            2 weeks ago I rented a Polestar 2 that had 36 percent charge when I picked it up and drove it from the airport to Canton without issue. The extra 2 minutes of thought I would have to give to drive it to Savannah would not be an issue. You dont see much of anything on that trip

          • 0 avatar
            Lou_BC

            @JimC31 – “Being so ignorant requires EFFORT at this point.”

            It’s called willful ignorance.

      • 0 avatar
        pmirp1

        MCS, This morning it is 31 degrees in Atlanta. The Tesla model 3 with 253 miles of range doesn’t work for my trip. Door to Door for me that is a 270 mile trip. There is zero chance that Tesla model 3 works (my Savannah place is on a barrier island near Savannah).

      • 0 avatar
        pmirp1

        Golden2Husky,

        “Why would a sitting president want to push up gas prices? It is a death knell at the polls”

        Have you checked the poll numbers for this president? It is at historical lows at this point of his administration.

        In a way I kind of feel for people like you who are still defending his administration, and not looking at facts:

        High gas prices aren’t his fault. Soaring inflation isn’t his fault, the skyrocketing crime rate isn’t his fault, the border disaster isn’t his fault and so on and on and on…

        • 0 avatar
          golden2husky

          pmirp1 – I’m not defending his administration. I’m rather disappointed in him frankly, but at least he does not have the goal of destroying our Constitution, crapping on the rule of law, and making himself king. There is plenty to blame his administration for. As you point out his poll numbers are slipping and endangering the midterms. If he could “fix” it he would even if only for selfish reasons. Gas prices, increasing crime (which started under the previous “administration”) and inflation due to pandemic disruptions are not one of them. No more, no less.

          • 0 avatar

            “does not have the goal of destroying our Constitution, crapping on the rule of law, and making himself king.”

            You are gonna kidding. Constitution was designed on assumption that at most of ruling elite will be decent, decent God fearing people caring about the health of nation. Not anymore. As one old judge said “as anticipated sh!t finally hit the fan” and there will be consequences. Who wants to pack the Supreme Court? Who wants to get rid of Electoral College? Drump?

          • 0 avatar
            slavuta

            golden2husky

            Dims with their big government have been on the path of destroying constitution for decades. US constitution is all about protecting people from the gov. But our dims are telling us that gov. must be in every bedroom, classroom, and even restroom.

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    9 models years of Hellcat power – not a bad run.

    • 0 avatar
      theflyersfan

      Pour one out for the shredded tires, blackened pavement, ruined eardrums, $1 Demon kits, intoxicating supercharger whine, won and lost dragstrip bets, late night parking lot drag races, and amusing The Grand Tour clips.

      If this is it for anything American being so rude, crude, brash, and socially unacceptable, well, I’m glad it for those 9 years, was a middle finger to everyone.

      God I love the sound of that supercharger…

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    Time for that Hellcat Durango, I suppose.

  • avatar
    mcs

    Here’s a tribute to Hellcats and the people that drive them:

  • avatar
    Tele Vision

    Someone used the word ‘myriad’ correctly. Amazing.

  • avatar
    jrhurren

    Maybe I’m in denial, but I don’t see them sticking to this timeline…

  • avatar

    So then it is your last chance to buy the future classic.

  • avatar
    slavuta

    Contest:
    How many time you saw a hellcat on the road?

    I saw 1 time, and it was a month ago. Also, must say, 2 miles from a dodge dealer, so there is a chance it was a test drive.

    • 0 avatar
      MitchConner

      Saw one today and a couple of them over the weekend. You must live where people drive crappy cars because over 60,000 Hellcats have been sold.

    • 0 avatar
      theflyersfan

      I tend to see a couple per week. Well, most of the time you hear them first, kind of like an Oklahoma tornado that sneaks up on you and deposits your roof on your neighbor’s home. Demons are a tougher find.

      It was a couple of years ago when I was driving up I-71 towards Northern Kentucky and Cincinnati. I kept getting passed by all sorts of Hellcats and Demons. I came to find out that a major auto magazine (I think it was Road & Track, but not sure) was hosting a Hellcat/Demon gathering at the major speedways throughout the Midwest, and Kentucky Speedway was one of the stops. And the best part was that if there was any kind of speed enforcement on 71 that day, they were just letting it slide because most of them were flying.

      Now to get to the Speedway (which will likely never host another NASCAR or Indy Car race), you have to make your way through thousands and thousands of Ford trucks and SUVs…

    • 0 avatar

      Even here in CT I see Hellcats weekly. Surprising number of them around.

      • 0 avatar
        MRF 95 T-Bird

        I’ll see a number of Hellcats and 392s as well on 95 when I’m driving up from New York in my 2018 Challenger GT awd.
        I was planning to go for its Giorgio based replacement with the 2.0 turbo in a few years but if they don’t I’ll consider the performance electric.
        They already use the Giorgio platform on a both Alfa models as well as the new Grand Cherokee. According to Allpar they have a Cuda sport coupe on the drawing board.

    • 0 avatar
      Drew8MR

      I see them all the time in the OC. Unless folks are rebadging, I don’t care enough to be able to distinguish them otherwise.

      • 0 avatar
        golden2husky

        Hellcats are a common sight around here. My wife and I pay attention to vehicles that are unique and kind of note how many we see. During the warm months we typically see 4-6 examples of high end stuff (Ferrari, Lambo, Aston, RR/Bentley) a day on weekends.

    • 0 avatar
      CoastieLenn

      (Prefacing this comment with “I live on an island heavily populated by either military or wealthy asians.)

      There are 3 Hellcat’s and two TrackHawks in my neighborhood. If I drive around either of the 3 bases here, I’m sure I’ll see no less than 6 more. If I go to a local car show, at least two will be present- possibly not the same as the ones I’d see above.

      They’re everywhere.

    • 0 avatar
      el scotto

      @slavuta I walk by two hellcats every day in my parking lot at work. There’s also a 392 wrangler lurking about. A friend of mine regularly drives his Raptor or Shelby to work. Plus the usual amount of luxury cars and plain old commuter beaters in my parking lot and garage. To drive some people on here nuts, PrII’s with Combat Veteran or I Served bumper stickers.

      See, here in the land of the free, we buy what we want, drive what we want, and live where we want. We don’t have to walk down four flights of stairs from our Soviet-era flat and catch a streetcar to get to work. When you were a gulag guard, what did you drive on patrol?

      • 0 avatar
        slavuta

        Land of free?? Not anymore. I though that was the case. But you sold your freedom for safety and now ended up with neither, just as founding fathers warned you.

        You will drive what they will tell you, eventually. Actually, check the bill Biden just signed. There is something about breathalysers in new cars. Every intersection has cameras. Highways now don’t have cash booths, so, your pictures taken all the time. Gov. knows where you drive and when.

        Ok, this is just a coincidence that in my development we don’t have Hellcats.

        GULAG was dismembered and because it was all-wood contraction, even in my time there nothing left. Forest took over. Anybody who went there to see the historic sites came back disappointed. Nothing was found, all rotted and trees grew back. I would say, in 20 years a tree can really grow. In 40, it is double of that.
        What I drove? ZIL 131 and GAZ 66. As a chief of radio stations I had 3 trucks under my supervision. 2 GAZ 66 and 1 GAZ 63. During major training when we got recalled by the “center” we operated ZIL 131. I was in charge of what was in the back of the truck. But still got to drive them periodically.

    • 0 avatar
      nrd515

      Seriously? I see a couple of them almost daily. A TorRed Challenger and a Blue Charger. On top of that, I see many others randomly all the time. They are anything but rare in the NWOhio/SWMichigan area.

  • avatar
    Superdessucke

    This reminds me so much of the 1970s it is laughable. Emissions and fuel economy regulations? Are you serious? What is this, 1973? I think we’re about to enter a personal luxury phase. I hope so. At least I can laugh at it.

    • 0 avatar
      dal20402

      We’re already in it. Today’s off-road craze is exactly the same as yesterday’s personal luxury craze, except that now you have KO2s and bull bars in place of tufted seats and opera lights.

  • avatar
    Lou_BC

    Hellcat the Power Wagon or Gladiator if you want to get my attention.

  • avatar
    MitchConner

    All good things must come to an end. When that 707 hp figure was announced the entire auto industry was stunned. The Hellcat simply blew everything else into the weeds — including all the stuff from the original muscle car era — while operating far more efficiently and cleanly in the process.

    That you could pull up next to nearly any other car, many going for two or three times as much, and dust them was impressive.

    It’s pretty stupid our country, which has done far better than anybody else in managing emissions, wants to strangle our economy in the name of the planet while China, Brazil, and India, etc. continue to throw as much filth in the air and water as they want.

  • avatar
    dal20402

    What will replace the LX cars as the truck alternative for roid ragers nationwide? Nothing else would quite seem to fill the bill. If Dodge can make those guys transition to EVs that will be an incredible feat of marketing.

    • 0 avatar

      Here in CT the demo for hellcats seems to be heavy Boomers, and older gen X with office or Union jobs. Also a significant number of the exact opposite demo, per my teenager if your under 30 and into cars you probably love Hellcats and Tesla in equal amounts.

  • avatar

    I wouldn’t mind an EV Charger or Challenger IF you can offer it for the same price as the ICE version – that’s my bottom line. The bigger question that I have yet to figure out is exactly why are EV’s an inevitable future for personal transportation? Haven’t done the research, but I’ve been lead to believe that much of our electricity is still carbon based generation. As such, what is the advantage to making EV’s – what are we accomplishing exactly?

  • avatar
    IBx1

    Such a shame that with all that time producing the engine, it was only ever put in one vehicle with a manual option. A manual Durango Hellcat would be the final say in family vehicles.

  • avatar
    jdmcomp

    Actually, the statement dates to 1374AD (Chaucer). Much of Dodges engineering does also. Maybe it is good to end some things.

  • avatar
    CoastieLenn

    Somewhere in California, Oregon, and Washington, environmentalists are cheering.

  • avatar
    sgeffe

    Hopefully you can still get the Hemi motor, and they just might offer the supercharger as a dealer item, with a warranty….

  • avatar
    Jeff S

    I am glad Stelantis still makes these cars for the enthusiasts even though I don’t want one for myself. Nice to see some performance cars with big V8s left but as we all know their time is limited as stated in this article but it was a good run while it lasted. At least these cars have some attractive styling and elicit some enthusiasm.

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