Largest Labor Group Says Autonomous Trucks Need Drivers

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

The Transportation Trades Department for the American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO) is spending its Tuesday telling the U.S. House of Representatives Energy and Commerce subcommittee that autonomous vehicles. Though it’s not because they occasionally run amok when left to their own devices. This is a matter of jobs.

Labor leaders have become increasingly concerned by the massive layoffs that will likely accompany the proliferation of electric vehicles, which require fewer components to assemble. But AVs have played second fiddle until fairly recently, with truckers doing most of the heavy lifting themselves. Now, the ALF-CIO is getting in on the action and hoping to convince legislators to establish formal requirements for there to be a driver behind in the wheel of all commercial vehicles over 10,000 pounds.

However, considering the recent failure of the driverless Waymo van that was befuddled by traffic cones and ultimately tried to make a break for it when help arrived, it might be worth considering applying similar rules to all AVs. The Alphabet-owned (Google) firm has already started applying for permits to charge customers for rides in its self-driving vehicles, though the company ironically opted to stop using the term “self-driving” at the start of 2021.

Reuters has reported that this is also something that’s currently on the AFL-CIO’s radar. But it’s focusing on larger vehicles likely devoted to long-haul transportation and heavier loads.

“We do not allow passenger airplanes to operate without pilots or passenger rail to run without engineers, and we should use a similar approach with AVs that operate on our often-congested roadways and in complex transit networks,” reads prepared testimony of Greg Regan, president of the Transportation Trades Department for the AFL-CIO.

From Reuters:

Concerns raised by major unions, including the Teamsters, are one reason that legislation to grant U.S. regulators the power to exempt tens of thousands of self-driving cars from U.S. safety regulations has not been approved despite five years of efforts.

“We have seen the impacts of automation on other sectors — manufacturing, health care, and retail, to name a few — and the consequences when public policy fails to protect the workers and users it impacts,” Regan will tell lawmakers, also raising concerns about “alternative design vehicles such as delivery bots. Any vehicle that is under the 10,000-pound threshold that will travel on public roads must be properly regulated.”

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Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • ToolGuy ToolGuy on May 18, 2021

    A really good semi truck driver is impressive to see on road trips (well-maintained equipment, impeccable lane discipline, always planning ahead, courteous despite the many idiots driving smaller vehicles).

  • DC Bruce DC Bruce on May 19, 2021

    It's always sad to see this. I'm old enough to remember the big hoo-hah when railroad unions fought to preserve the jobs of firemen on diesel locomotives (where they weren't needed). "Preserving jobs" that have become redundant or unnecessary is a dead-end, for everyone. (I'm not talking about preserving domestic jobs that have been sent overseas by companies engaging in labor arbitrage.). Better to figure out how to give these folks an "off-ramp" that minimizes the adverse effect on their families and, in the case of fixed-location jobs, communities. That said, I think the entire "autonomous driving" thing is a total crock. Thus far, autonomous vehicles have proved a danger to everyone in the vicinity. Even worse, there seems to be no particular understanding as to why these systems fail. The closest thing we have to autonomous driving today is passenger airliners where, for fuel efficiency reasons, the autopilot flies the plane almost the whole time. Even that has its downside as a number of crashes have been attributed to the pilots' degradation of "piloting skills" from having been essentially a passenger for so much of their time in flight.

    • Jack Denver Jack Denver on May 19, 2021

      Autonomous vehicles don't have to be perfectly safe - they just have to be safer than human drivers. People find it hard to accept if an AV kills even one person but human drivers in the US alone kill 40,000 people every year, almost as much as US combat deaths from the entire Vietnam War, each and every year. So if autonomous vehicles were only half as bad as humans, 20,000 lives would be saved every year. Now for over the road trucks, they would have to meet a higher standard since professional truckers are better than average drivers, but still a some point (which is greater than zero accidents) self driving trucks would be better than human trucks. Self driving also potentially offers a better lifestyle for drivers. At first at least, the self driving trucks would drive from interstate on-ramp to off-ramp and there would still be human drivers at either end. Such locally based drivers could go home every night.

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  • Kjhkjlhkjhkljh kljhjkhjklhkjh *Why would anyone buy this* when the 2025 RamCharger is right around the corner, *faster* with vastly *better mpg* and stupid amounts of torque using a proven engine layout and motivation drive in use since 1920.
  • Kjhkjlhkjhkljh kljhjkhjklhkjh I hate this soooooooo much. but the 2025 RAMCHARGER is the CORRECT bridge for people to go electric. I hate dodge (thanks for making me buy 2 replacement 46RH's) .. but the ramcharger's electric drive layout is *vastly* superior to a full electric car in dense populous areas where charging is difficult and where moron luddite science hating trumpers sabotage charges or block them.If Toyota had a tundra in the same config i'd plop 75k cash down today and burn my pos chevy in the dealer parking lot
  • Kjhkjlhkjhkljh kljhjkhjklhkjh I own my house 100% paid for at age 52. the answer is still NO.-28k (realistically) would take 8 years to offset my gas truck even with its constant repair bills (thanks chevy)-Still takes too long to charge UNTIL solidsate batteries are a thing and 80% in 15 minutes becomes a reality (for ME anyways, i get others are willing to wait)For the rest of the market, especially people in dense cityscape, apartments dens rentals it just isnt feasible yet IMO.
  • ToolGuy I do like the fuel economy of a 6-cylinder engine. 😉
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