Ford Patents Hybridized V8, Could Offer Glimpse Into Future Product

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

Ford is currently on the road to electrification. Right now, the manufacturer is working on an electric crossover based on the Mustang and a new hybrid powertrain. But it hasn’t been particularly forthcoming when it comes to sharing its industry secrets with the public.

Fortunately, an application filed with the United States Patent and Trademark Office could give us a glimpse into what Ford’s cooking up. While technically filed in July of 2018, the document was officially published just last week and quickly located by the patent-sniffing dogs from our sister site, AutoGuide, showcasing a “twin motor drive system” for hybrid vehicles. The accompanying diagram clearly shows the system mated to a V8, but the filing seems to suggest that the setup could operate with any engine that’s mounted longitudinally.

Unfortunately, the document is rather vague. The abstract indicates that (in one version of the system) the internal combustion engine would be responsible for driving the rear axle while an electric motor would be responsible for the front. But doesn’t go in to much detail beyond that.

From the USPTO:

Methods and systems are provided for a hybrid electric vehicle including a front-wheel drive system and a rear-wheel drive system. In one example, the rear-wheel drive system includes an internal combustion engine configured to drive rear wheels of the vehicle, and the front wheel drive system includes a first electric motor and a second electric motor mounted directly to opposing sides of the engine. The first electric motor is coupled to a first reduction gearbox to drive a first front wheel of the vehicle, and the second electric motor is coupled to a second reduction gearbox to drive a second front wheel of the vehicle.

That said, there’s no guarantee that this is the system Ford will be running with. And, even if it was, we don’t know where it will be going. While the company has confirmed an electrified F-Series, which could use a hybridized V8, there’s been no such claim made for the Mustang — just a lot of speculation and subtle hints from the automaker. However, with Fiat Chrysler continuing to drop knowledge that the Challenger and Charger will probably offer hybridized power for their next generation, it would make sense that The Blue Oval would try the same thing with the Mustang or perhaps the upcoming crossover it has inspired.

Every automaker seems to be thinking about how to better incorporate electricity and all-wheel drive into its product line these days. As a result, it isn’t a stretch to imagine this patent eventually materializing at Ford’s factories. Though, we would advise you not to get overly hung up on the number of cylinders until the manufacturer says otherwise.

Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • Ajla Ajla on Jan 27, 2019

    Ford already has the 319hp 3.3L conventional hybrid and a 450hp 3.0T PHEV setups going into their new CUVs. It would not surprise me to see either (or both) of those finding their way into the Mustang and/or F-Series in the next three years. A V8 hyrbid like this would likely replace the 5.0L across the board. On the plus side, this might mean more V8 vehicles options from Ford.

    • Scoutdude Scoutdude on Jan 27, 2019

      Yeah I expect that the F-150 Hybrid will be sporting that Explorer 3.3 hybrid power train, though possibly with a slightly different calibration and total HP/torque numbers. The 3.0T might come later but I suspect they will start with 3.3 and see how it goes.

  • PandaBear PandaBear on Jan 29, 2019

    Patents: congratulation, you now have another one that you can cross license with your competitor. Just because you patent it doesn't mean you have to build it or it is going to be cost effective. I had a patent too, and by the time the patent lawyer finished working on it, I couldn't recognize what I did. It is meant to be as ambiguous as possible so it cover as much scope as possible, and can be used to sue as many people as possible.

  • ToolGuy First picture: I realize that opinions vary on the height of modern trucks, but that entry door on the building is 80 inches tall and hits just below the headlights. Does anyone really believe this is reasonable?Second picture: I do not believe that is a good parking spot to be able to access the bed storage. More specifically, how do you plan to unload topsoil with the truck parked like that? Maybe you kids are taller than me.
  • ToolGuy The other day I attempted to check the engine oil in one of my old embarrassing vehicles and I guess the red shop towel I used wasn't genuine Snap-on (lots of counterfeits floating around) plus my driveway isn't completely level and long story short, the engine seized 3 minutes later.No more used cars for me, and nothing but dealer service from here on in (the journalists were right).
  • Doughboy Wow, Merc knocks it out of the park with their naming convention… again. /s
  • Doughboy I’ve seen car bras before, but never car beards. ZZ Top would be proud.
  • Bkojote Allright, actual person who knows trucks here, the article gets it a bit wrong.First off, the Maverick is not at all comparable to a Tacoma just because they're both Hybrids. Or lemme be blunt, the butch-est non-hybrid Maverick Tremor is suitable for 2/10 difficulty trails, a Trailhunter is for about 5/10 or maybe 6/10, just about the upper end of any stock vehicle you're buying from the factory. Aside from a Sasquatch Bronco or Rubicon Jeep Wrangler you're looking at something you're towing back if you want more capability (or perhaps something you /wish/ you were towing back.)Now, where the real world difference should play out is on the trail, where a lot of low speed crawling usually saps efficiency, especially when loaded to the gills. Real world MPG from a 4Runner is about 12-13mpg, So if this loaded-with-overlander-catalog Trailhunter is still pulling in the 20's - or even 18-19, that's a massive improvement.
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