QOTD: The Price Is Wrong?

Matthew Guy
by Matthew Guy

Today’s question is brought to you by kitchen-table musing and grumbling by two gearheads at the Guy household on Saturday. As it always does, the conversation turned to cars.

“Nothing’s affordable anymore!” ranted my friend, waving his arms while expressing a desire to own old Alfas and other machinery with the structural integrity of wet tissue paper.

The man may have a point. Do you think the values of certain desirable cars are inflated beyond reason?

I argued that the auction site Bring-a-Trailer is doing to the values of certain oddball cars what Barrett-Jackson did to the values of Hemi ‘Cudas about 10 or 15 years ago. Those machines were always extremely valuable but, in the wake of televised bidding frenzies, those cars soon started changing hands for dizzying amounts, shutting out all but the 1 percent of gearheads.

Their values have cooled, as the demographics of those with car-sized amounts of money burning holes in their bank accounts starts to shift. Gearheads — the sloppy, misty-eyed dates that we are — tend to throw caution and good reason out the window when we find ourselves in a position to finally purchase the machine we coveted as a teenager or young adult.

Me? I’d very much like to have an Integra Type R — painted Phoenix Yellow, please. Not long ago, these little rockets were desired but not wholly unattainable. Now? The two currently on BAT are already trading well into five-figure territory. It’s not like either of them are perfect examples — one has crash history and 182k miles, the other is a ten-owner car with mileage discrepancies and an outstanding lien.

I’m glad for the BAT boffins; they’ve created a great gearhead community and are proving to be one of the premier stops for rare and desirable machinery. It’s great when people start a business and are successful. I am also glad for those who have found a way to put one in their garage.

Doesn’t make it any easier to get my Integra Type R, though. What car do you think is currently trading for nutso values? Are there any others you think will soon rocket into the stratosphere?

[image: Acura]

Matthew Guy
Matthew Guy

Matthew buys, sells, fixes, & races cars. As a human index of auto & auction knowledge, he is fond of making money and offering loud opinions.

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  • Bodayguy Bodayguy on Jul 31, 2018

    I bought an NSX last year. Yeah, probably the Gen X collector bug hit me or something. But I also have a 60s Riviera, so I'm not ONLY rehashing my youth. Also sold a car on BaT 2 years ago. It was fun. Anything interesting and in good shape will do nicely on there, problem is everybody thinks their garage heap is in that category now. Ran into a guy with a yellow Integra Type R at the coin-op car wash about five years ago. Practically ran up to him and lectured, "don't sell this!" He looked bewildered.

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    • PandaBear PandaBear on Aug 01, 2018

      @scott25 One of my friend mod his S2000 club racer for track (including a whole dry sump system) , but he is really using it as a tool for the job instead of collecting it and look at it though. He does keep all the original parts so when time comes it is going back to stock to be sold.

  • Mechaman Mechaman on Aug 04, 2018

    The last Accord I liked the looks of was the '07 model. Apparently some sellers think that no matter how many miles they put on theirs, the car never depreciated...

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    • Sgeffe Sgeffe on Aug 13, 2018

      @volvo Especially if you have the six-speed stick on that V6 Sedan!

  • SCE to AUX The nose went from terrible to weird.
  • Chris P Bacon I'm not a fan of either, but if I had to choose, it would be the RAV. It's built for the long run with a NA engine and an 8 speed transmission. The Honda with a turbo and CVT might still last as long, but maintenance is going to cost more to get to 200000 miles for sure. The Honda is built for the first owner to lease and give back in 36 months. The Toyota is built to own and pass down.
  • Dwford Ford's management change their plans like they change their underwear. Where were all the prototypes of the larger EVs that were supposed to come out next year? Or for the next gen EV truck? Nowhere to be seen. Now those vaporware models are on the back burner to pursue cheaper models. Yeah, ok.
  • Wjtinfwb My comment about "missing the mark" was directed at, of the mentioned cars, none created huge demand or excitement once they were introduced. All three had some cool aspects; Thunderbird was pretty good exterior, let down by the Lincoln LS dash and the fairly weak 3.9L V8 at launch. The Prowler was super cool and unique, only the little nerf bumpers spoiled the exterior and of course the V6 was a huge letdown. SSR had the beans, but in my opinion was spoiled by the tonneau cover over the bed. Remove the cover, finish the bed with some teak or walnut and I think it could have been more appealing. All three were targeting a very small market (expensive 2-seaters without a prestige badge) which probably contributed. The PT Cruiser succeeded in this space by being both more practical and cheap. Of the three, I'd still like to have a Thunderbird in my garage in a classic color like the silver/green metallic offered in the later years.
  • D Screw Tesla. There are millions of affordable EVs already in use and widely available. Commonly seen in Peachtree City, GA, and The Villages, FL, they are cheap, convenient, and fun. We just need more municipalities to accept them. If they'll allow AVs on the road, why not golf cars?
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