By on September 21, 2017

2018 Mercedes-Benz E400 Coupe - Image: © Timothy CainAt new car dealerships, coupes are thin on the ground. The demise of the Honda Accord coupe at the end of the 2017 model year shutters the mainstream midsize coupe segment, a category long since diminished by the disappearance of two-door Camrys, Altimas, and the Avengers.

Compact coupes are rare, too. You won’t find two-door versions of the Chevrolet Cruze, Ford Focus, Hyundai Elantra, Nissan Sentra, Subaru Impreza, Toyota Corolla, or Volkswagen Jetta, although their predecessors all offered coupe variants.

Chevrolet Monte Carlo, Chrysler Cordoba, Ford Thunderbird? Long gone. But coupes — genuine two-doors such as the pillarless Mercedes-Benz E400 4Matic I’m driving (and being massaged by) this week, or the Honda Civic, or the Infiniti Q60, or the Rolls-Royce Wraith — are still available.

Would you buy one?

Probably not. More likely than not, your next new vehicle purchase will involve a light truck, anything from the Ford F-150 to the Toyota Highlander to the Jeep Renegade. Passenger cars account for only 37 percent of U.S. new vehicle sales in 2017. Two-door cars account for distinctly less than one out of every ten car sales. Between 2000 and 2011, global coupe sales plunged by nearly half.

It’s not difficult to understand why. Coupes, often linked in the last to performance, are by no means the only source of performance in 2017. Just look at the Honda Civic as an example. While the Civic Si is launching as a sedan and coupe now, the true high-performance Civic is the Type R, a British-built four-door hatchback.

Style, always beheld by the beholder, is constantly changing, as well. So-called (and strangely called) four-door coupes combine some of the coupe’s style quotient with some of the sedan’s practical benefits.

Then, of course, there’s the fact that vehicles such as the Toyota RAV4 Adventure have the means of capturing a young couple’s attention. Where are the kayaks you wish you owned and the bikes you intend to ride supposed to go? Not on a Celica’s roof or in a Camry coupe’s trunk, that’s for sure.

So, is a coupe on your list of new vehicles to consider?

[Image: © Timothy Cain]

Timothy Cain is a contributing analyst at The Truth About Cars and Autofocus.ca and the founder and former editor of GoodCarBadCar.net. Follow on Twitter @timcaincars and Instagram.

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104 Comments on “QOTD: It’s 2017 – Would You Buy a Coupe?...”


  • avatar

    I already have a Toyota Pickup. Wife has a Crosstrek and a classic Volvo 242. Once I sell my BMW wagon I’ll need a new daily driver and without kids (or plans for kids in the future) I’m certainly open and looking at coupes.

    Why have 2 additional doors that’ll never get used? That’s the reason I’m selling my wagon. It’s just more interior space than I’ll need. And if I DO need more space, I have a utility vehicle AND a pickup to choose from.

  • avatar
    4drSedan

    No.

  • avatar
    Brendon from Canada

    Yup. I’ve been driving nothing but stick shift coupes for 20 years. Currently a BMW M235i, which is relatively fun but there’s not an awful lot on the horizon that intrigues me for the next purchase (hoping to get 1 more stick shift). I will say that it’s a bit of a style (image?) choice, since there are certainly comparably featured sedans available that in theory would have been more practical. I schlepped two kids from birth around in a 3 series coupe – not always the easiest for ingress or egress, but I never felt that giving up the style was worth going to something else.

    My wife is somewhat the same – two door hatches for her, of either the VW or Mini variety for the most part, with a brief stint in a RAV4 and the times from baby -6 months to baby +6 months, which was more a comfort thing for her.

    As a disclaimer, we’ve generally had an SUV of some sort for road trips – and, oddly enough to load up the skis, snowboards, kayaks, paddleboards and bikes. Sometimes I feel like a walking billboard for this crap… (But, hey, it’s fun, the kids dig it now that they are a bit older, and it keeps my wife and I in shape!)

    • 0 avatar
      Reino

      Next summer I’ll have a three-year old and a newborn. My current DD is a 5-series, but the allure of a coupe never escapes me. I could see myself in a Mustang GT or Lexus RC, but the thought of schlepping the kids in and out of the backseat every day exhausts me. Glad to hear that you’ve been doing it!

      • 0 avatar
        Steve65

        My sister has a MY 2000 Subaru 2.5RS coupe that she bought new, and a 15 year old daughter. She loves the car more than she hated dealing with a child seat in the back for a few years.

  • avatar
    notapreppie

    The four-door coupe is an abomination before the Lord (May you be touched by his noodly appendage.).

    The A5 Sportback, A7, 4-series Gran Coupe, 6-series Gran Coupe, CLS, CLA. All just… WRONG.

    I’d totally buy a coupe since I already have a lifted hatchback for utility-ish (read: dog hauling) duty.

    That said, I’d probably buy a hot-hatch the next time I’m in the market.

  • avatar
    pmirp1

    One of the problems is young men would rather be associated with trucks than coupes. Opposite sex finds that more sexy and appealing. Trucks are manly, full of testosterone and so today.

    Unless you have multiple chariots, the base of customer that used to buy coupes, rather be seen in more practical trucks and get the old sex and testestrone attributes that coupes used to have.

    • 0 avatar
      cicero1

      Yep. I have only had coupes, although I considered a BMW 2, what I’ve read about quality issues have precluded such. Leading candidate is a Tacoma (extended cab not double, so kind of a coupe)

    • 0 avatar
      bienville

      Or maybe they just wanted a truck, which is apparently impossible for the TTAC demographic to comprehend. It’s always because of compensation or something else, never because they just wanted a truck.

      • 0 avatar
        JohnTaurus

        ^this

      • 0 avatar
        IHateCars

        bienville, you’re my hero…..well said!

        I’d buy a coupe as a toy, something like a Mustang GT, as a companion to my Raptor and R1. Otherwise, they are kind of useless.

      • 0 avatar
        I_like_stuff

        “Or maybe they just wanted a truck, which is apparently impossible for the TTAC demographic to comprehend. It’s always because of compensation or something else, never because they just wanted a truck.”

        I bought my first truck earlier this year. Why? I dunno, I just wanted to get one. I’ve owned every other type of car/suv known to man and one day I thought, I want a truck. And I got one. It’s a crew cab so the kids fit in the back with a ton of room to spare. It gets about 21-22 MPG on the highway and with the V8 , it will out 0-60 most cars.

        Plus I used it this weekend to get a bunch of rocks for a landscaping project in the back yard.

        I wish I’d had the truck revelation years ago.

      • 0 avatar
        RHD

        Agreed. My old Toyota Hilux is just for hauling stuff when needed, and as an extra vehicle just in case. 20R Toyotas don’t compensate for anything except the need for a truck.

        High-riding coal rollers are another story.

    • 0 avatar
      MoparRocker74

      Depends on the coupe. All of the current crop of muscle cars are coupes because it’s a ‘proper’ muscle car. The SS is nearly nonexistent and the Charger is still seen as a compromise (but still a badass one) for those whose lives demand 4 doors.

      Plenty of young men driving Challengers, Mustangs, and Camaros.

    • 0 avatar
      Guitar man

      …except the average age of a pick up buyer is something like 72 years old.

  • avatar

    Let us not overlook the demise of the 3-door GTI. That was a dark day in Seattle when that was announced.

    • 0 avatar
      bullnuke

      A GTI ain’t a GTI when it has 4-doors. A 4-door GTI is a kid haulin’ grocery-gettin’ Golf/Rabbit to my eyes. Times really have changed. Now, where’s my Fixodent so I can put my teeth in and have some prunes…

    • 0 avatar
      JuniperBug

      I disagree. As someone whose first car was a Jetta 2 door, I originally thought that the 2 door VWs looked more “right.” But there’s something about the Mk5 and up that lends itself better to 4 doors in my eyes. Somehow the current GTI especially strikes me as bland in 2 door guise.

      • 0 avatar
        ash78

        Yep, as the previous owner of a MkIII, I can’t say enough how much better I like the current crop of 4-door models. The 2-doors just seem too stretched, like they needed something to fill the space.

      • 0 avatar
        Kyree S. Williams

        Actually, the current Mk.6 would have made a handsome coupe. But considering that only the Civic Coupe now exists in that segment, VW was wise not to bother.

    • 0 avatar
      Wyrmdog

      If only there was a way to get them to sell us the 3-door Polo GTI. I’d probably sell one of my kids for that.

  • avatar

    Between my wife and I we have 4 coupes/roadsters plus a ford ranger, 2 door.

  • avatar
    dividebytube

    I’ve owned several coupes: Three two-door Accords, an ’86 Monte Carlo SS, a Clubman, a ’68 Firebird – and it’s no big deal provided you are single or married without kids. But once you have to shuttle around children, coupes get to be a pain.

    But the local import dealership does have a beautiful BMW 235i M, along with a Mercedes E350 coupe. I would happily drive either even if it means getting my teenage son to fold up and squeeze himself into the back seat.

  • avatar
    Cactuar

    In a single-income family with four kids to feed? Ha! Forget it.

  • avatar
    Zackman

    The ONLY coupe I would buy is shown above – a Mercedes PILLARLESS HARDTOP!

    The only practical coupe left on the planet, because it is fully functional, meaning the back seat passengers actually can open a window!

    It’s a sad thing that vehicles no longer get a window that rolls down unless the body panel it is a part of opens too.

    For over 40 years, automakers haven’t produced coupes or even two door sedans with back glass that rolls down, and I don’t know why. If they were trying to kill the market, they’ve succeeded, sadly.

    Now if only I could afford that Mercedes – AND afford the maintenance…

    • 0 avatar
      bienville

      You don’t buy this car, you lease it. No maintenance worries and probably can get the payment in the $400’s if they allow enough MSD’s

    • 0 avatar
      DweezilSFV

      As always, Zackman: agreed. That stupid trend started in the US with domestics like the Maverick and Gremlin and Vega, each trying to ape the imports, evolved to “opera windows” and then continued to ruin the entire segment.

      Nice to see a genuine hardtop, instead of just a two door sedan.

  • avatar
    gearhead77

    Just couldn’t justify it with kids. I wanted to, found two that I liked outside the Fiat 500c Abarth I was considering. When I brought up that it’s rarely more than me in the car, my wife said “You drive the kids more than you think you do.” And she was right, I couldn’t see my boys (one of which is almost 7 and 52 inches tall, all legs and arms) climbing into a Mustang or FIAT.

    It’s just not a hassle I want right now, not for a DD. I’m still searching for a Fox Mustang convertible that I want. I had an 81 Regal coupe, an 84 Eldorado and a 95 Cougar. I was considering a new Mustang, but it just wasn’t going to work on a few levels.

    I bought a 4 door Golf. I wouldn’t have considered a two-door.

    Coupes aren’t dead, but they’re a niche market. The inverse of what it used to be ( coupes all over, SUV’s minimal) During my very recent shopping, I stumbled upon a new 2015 Mercedes C250 coupe. The want was strong: RWD German coupe in black. The reviews weren’t strong, but it was more along the lines of “well, it’s good enough, but it’s not fun”.

    Here’s the kicker: The MB dealer was trying to unload that car at half MSRP. It sold for around 26k, not it’s 47k sticker (or invoice). And, in a nationwide Autotrader search, 4 more turned up!

    If the wealthy or at least on paper wealthy don’t want coupes, it’s a tough sell indeed.

    • 0 avatar
      zamoti

      I have three sons and I dumped my BMW 545i sedan for a Camaro SS. No problems, the only issue is that if the wife is coming along, we have take her car (Navigator). Kids can learn how to get into the backseat and it helps that my oldest is big enough to ride up front.
      Might not work for everyone, but they don’t stay in car seats for long (thankfully).
      Yes to coupes.

  • avatar
    Rocket

    For a weekend toy? Absolutely. For a daily driver? Not a chance. It’s just not worth the compromise in practicality.

  • avatar
    ash78

    Yes, I would. A “proper coupe” IMO isn’t just a sedan/wagon lacking two doors (Accord, Altima, Solara, etc). It’s a nimbler, lighter, higher performance variant of that car — or a standalone model altogether.

    If I see a coupe and another variant coexisting with comparable specs, I know I’m just looking at a marketing exercise. Good riddance to those.

    For now, I’m all wagons and vans and SUVs, but as soon as funds and space allow for a 2-door, I’m all over it.

  • avatar

    My last coupe left when the offspring needed to be taken in and out of the kid car seat. The angle needed to get into car (Golf GTi 16v) and lift/extract brat wasn’t one a normal back could do.

    Now that she has her own car (manual driving millennial, thank you) I can again think two doors, but that will be only for a toy car. The DD car still finds occasional “can you pick up X and do Y” and the 4 doors are appreciated by the passengers who don’t want to / are too old to watusi into the back seat.

  • avatar
    ajla

    2-door Tahoe Custom 6.2L

  • avatar
    relton

    I’m not old enough for a 4 door car. I’m only 70.

    Our garages presently have 4 coupes (37 Hudson, 70 Eldorado, 07 BMW, 07 Bentley), 1 convertible (17 Mustang), and 1 roadster (built from scratch, 2012).

    My truck (83 El Camino) is also a 2 door.

    Coupes are out there.

    • 0 avatar

      You, sir, are a Great American.

    • 0 avatar
      S2k Chris

      “I’m not old enough for a 4 door car. I’m only 70.”

      See, I think (no offense) you’re too old for a 4 door. Let me explain. I know back in the 50s/60s/70s sedans were what old people drove and coupes were cool and for those in the know, etc.

      However, starting in the 1980s, sedans got cool. Sedans were often real performance sleepers, cars like the 500E, E34 M5, Audi RS4, and then into the 1990s all the cool cars were at least available as sedans, the E36 and E39 BMWs, the Audi A4, AMG Mercedes, second-gen Lexus GS, etc etc etc. Those were the cars a lot of us grew up wanting.

      So when I hear some old guy talk about how sedans are for old people, he’s really just making himself seem old because that hasn’t been true for most people for 30+ years.

      • 0 avatar
        Kyree S. Williams

        Even into the 80s…my grandparents drove Rivieras, Thunderbirds and Eldorados. And they weren’t that old. These personal luxury coupes made a particular statement because they were coupes through-and-through; they weren’t just two-door variants of four-door cars.

      • 0 avatar
        stuki

        I don’t recall sedans ever being cool. The Cool Bimmers were the Cis. And the Cool Benzes the SLs and coupes. The Aston Lagonda may have had some sliver of “Cool”, but for the rest of them, even the fastest and most over the top versions, were no “cooler” than Uwe Gemballa’s hairstyle. If you were an up and coming player with a studio deal, you drove a ‘vert or a coupe. The sedan’s… meh! At best something to be chauffeured in…..

  • avatar
    dukeisduke

    No, probably not. The only real coupe (two-door hardtop) I’ve ever owned was a ’64 Grand Prix, and I bought it in 1980, and sold it in ’83. My 17yo daughter drives a 2012 Kia Forte Koup EX, but technically it’s a two-door sedan (has a post). I drive a ’13 Tacoma and my wife drive an ’08 Sienna. The next daughter up? She’ll get a four-door or five-door, since the the insurance companies consider two-doors like the Koup “sports cars”. Stupid.

  • avatar
    psychoboy

    My garage houses my 91 Honda Prelude and my wife’s 06 Scion TC. My driveway contains my twice-totaled 240k mile 06 Honda Accord 4cyl/5spd coupe. My shop stores my 05 Dodge Sprinter (2 doors, 2 seats…technically a shooting brake which is just a long roof coupe) for when I need to do actual work, and I’m seriously considering trading my 67 Honda LN360 and 76 Honda TN360 projects for a running 71 Honda Z600 (the most impractical coupe OF ALL TIME!!)

    So, yeah….in five to seven years, when my Accord has chuffed its last, I’ll probably start watching COPART for a 16 or 17 Accord coupe.

    Now, if you told me to go buy a /new/ car, I’d look closely at the BRZ, or I’d just get my future 17 Accord.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus

      If you get that Z, please write an article for us on it! I freakin’ love those things.

      I have a couple on my list (keep in mind, I generally search for cars $2k and below):

      https://portland.craigslist.org/yam/cto/d/1972-honda-600-sport-coupe/6310943819.html

      https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/d/very-rare-mini-honda-z600-car/6312467644.html

  • avatar
    john White

    WE have one kid, and I have two coupes. A 2005 G35 coupe and a 2015 Mustang GT. The wife has the JX35, so all other duties go with that car.

  • avatar
    Shockrave Flash Has Crashed

    Too hard for us old people to get in and out of. My son had a 96 Cougar. If it was parked on a hill, well lets just say it wasn’t pretty.

  • avatar
    Acd

    Only if the top goes down.

  • avatar
    e30gator

    Once the kids are out of the house and I can hang up the keys for my SUV, there will be a 3 Series coupe in my driveway.

    There’s something to be said about the roof and clean lines of a coupe that, while maybe falling out of favor for family-types, will never go out of style.

  • avatar
    S2k Chris

    Probably not BUT it’s because I already own a roadster. If I could only have one car, a coupe has a lot of appeal assuming it has a back seat (I only haul the kids occasionally in my car, usually grab the wife’s CUV when I need to). A 911 would be ideal, but a BMW 4-series/2-series, Audi A5, etc would fit the bill too.

  • avatar
    White Shadow

    Of course I’d buy a coupe. And I did just that recently….an Audi A5 coupe, six-speed manual. For me, it’s about the style. If I absolutely needed four doors, I could have gotten an A4, but the looks are nowhere near the stylish A5. And for the new model just coming out, the A5 Sportback is now available in the USA, but it too doesn’t look as good as the coupe. Actually, the new A5 in general doesn’t look as good anymore, but that’s besides the point.

  • avatar
    mikey

    The EB Mustang is the only car I own..I can flip the back seat down, and have all the space I need. I can take one passenger seated comfortably . I’m 63 years old, and have no problem getting in, or out. . The long doors can be a PITA in a tight parking spot..Easy fix, if available I’ll park away from the crowd and take a longer walk.

    The car meets my needs perfectly..Yes, I would buy another Coupe.

  • avatar
    JMII

    I own 2 coupes now so clearly the answer is YES. No kids, no dogs, no reason for more then 2 doors. My 3rd vehicle is a quad cab truck so I’m covered if transporting more then 2 people is a requirement. Hint… 99% of the time its not. I’ve owned a mix of vehicles over the years and rarely needed back seats. For my wife’s last two cars she specifically wanted a coupe. Actually she wanted a 3 door hatch but after previous VAG experience the Audi TT was off the list.

  • avatar
    ToddAtlasF1

    “So-called (and strangely called) four-door coupes combine some of the coupe’s style quotient with some of the sedan’s practical benefits.”

    I prefer to think of them as having the style quotient of a sedan combined with the utility of a coupe. I used to ride in a CLS500 a few times a week. It was smaller inside than any car bigger than a Porsche 944 has a right to be.

  • avatar
    AK

    Yes, 100%.

    I have a ‘hot hatch’ and quite frankly hate the hatch part of it.

    Give me a coupe any day. It’s far and away my preference.

  • avatar
    DevilsRotary86

    I bought a coupe in in 2005, 2009, 2012, and 2016. I see no reason I wouldn’t buy a coupe in 2017.

  • avatar
    bumpy ii

    No, I like 4-doors better. Although I somehow ended up with three coupes and three 3-door hatches in my yard.

  • avatar

    I’ve got no use for 4 doors. Currently drive a Mustang, and autocross with an SMF-prepped 2000 Mercury Cougar. The wife drove a 3-door SVT Focus for the past several years, but we just replaced it with a Focus ST – which I WISH was offered without all those extra pillars. I look at photos of those European-spec Fiesta ST’s with their 2-door configuration and get all weepy…

  • avatar
    MrIcky

    Would You Buy a Coupe?…

    Yes. I did and I would again.

  • avatar
    Flipper35

    I would consider a new Challenger for my DD, manual of course. Other than that I have no desire. A sedan is/can be just as sporting and is more practical. I just have a soft spot for the ’70/’71 and new Challengers.

  • avatar
    Land Ark

    At my house we have two coupes (06 GTO and the Land Ark) , a convertible (Z4), a sedan (09 Legacy GT), and a wagon (07 Legacy GT).
    I’m currently in the market and I would consider another coupe. But they are almost as hard to find new now as convertibles. Especially under $40k new.

  • avatar
    Wyrmdog

    Well, for what it’s worth, I raised 3 kids using a wagon-then-minivan, and a coupe. I had very little trouble/inconvenience. Anytime my coupe doesn’t suffice, someone else drives. No skin off my nose, and it’s exceedingly rare that we can’t just pile everyone into the van. Not saying everyone’s experience is mine, because it’s not, and I get that. The only cars I am currently looking at are another minivan for the wife when hers finally gives up the ghost (it’s 13 years old as of this writing), and then either a coupe or sport hatch for me.

    So yes. Coupe is definitely on the menu.

  • avatar
    JohnTaurus

    Theoretically, yes. If I could afford to buy a remaining new Honda Accord coupe (I-4/6MT), I would. I would settle for a Civic Si coupe if no Accord could be found that meets my approval.

    As many know, I’ve been looking for something I can use as a rideshare car, so my next purchase is more likely to be another sedan. *sad trombone* Lol

    However, the next *car* I buy for myself as a *personal vehicle* stands a good chance at being a coupe.

    That being said, I’ve wanted a 1960s Toyota Corona for a long time, and there is a decent 1968 for a good price not far from me. Unfortunately, it is a four door, but at least it has a manual and not the ToyoGlide. There is a Corona coupe, but its been sitting for probably since Regan was in office, and its much further away.

    So, if I fell @$$ backwards into a pile of money and could afford to buy myself a “toy” like an old Corona, it would probably be the four door. Its in good enough condition to move under its own power, and that’s a big selling point to me at this stage. Of course, if the pile of money were big enough, I’d buy a truck and a trailer, and make both Coronas mine.

    Along with a two door RWD Oldsmobile. :)

    There is also a 1991 Civic DX 5MT sedan that’s so clean you could eat off of it that has my attention. I overwhelmingly prefer the Civic sedan in 88-91 guise, which is a rare exception in my preferences.

  • avatar
    DweezilSFV

    I’ve had a 66 Mercury Caliente 2 dr hardtop,65 Dodge Monaco 2 dr hardtop, 84 Citation II 2 door club “coupe” [marketing for sedan], 86 Olds Calais 2 door.

    Just got the Calais back from my brother [in the family for 25 years] and have owned a 63 Valiant Signet hardtop for 37 years.

    First four door I owned was a relief. After 2 doors with fixed rear windows, owning a coupe will never happen again unless the rear windows roll down.

    Actually I will never own another car with rear windows that don’t roll down.

    Nice to see no reference to a two door “post”, btw. There were never any “post” anything built or marketed by the manufacturers: hardtops [2 & 4 door and wagon, briefly] sedans [2 and four door] and convertibles.

    See “Old Car Brochures”. The Belvedere 2 door “sedan” was called a “coupe” as a Road Runner. The Maverick was a 2 door sedan when introduced in 1970.

    My Calais is a two door coupe. Not a “post” coupe. The Valiant is a hardtop.

    If it doesn’t have a B pillar it’s a hardtop. If it’s got a B pillar it’s a sedan or coupe.

    Adding “post” does not make anyone sound more “knowledgeable”, rather, just the opposite.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus

      Maybe people use the word “post” to clarify that it is not a hardtop? So it isn’t exactly the term that automakers have used, but its still obvious as to their intent.

      Do you call passenger versions of the Ford Aerostar and E-Series vans or wagons? Look in a brochure and you’ll see them referred to as wagons. I have never heard anyone say their parents had an “Aerostar wagon”, or their church uses an “E-250 wagon”, have you? Does it really matter? Of course not.

      • 0 avatar
        bumpy ii

        I figured the “wagon” vans were the ones with full seating.

        • 0 avatar
          JohnTaurus

          Yes, those that have back seats and were designed to carry passengers. But my point was, how may people actually call them a “wagon”?

          We know a wagon as a version of a sedan with a long roof that extends over the cargo area, and a van (as well as a “minivan”) is something with sliding door(s), not forward hinged, swing-out doors. There are exceptions, of course (the first gen Honda Oddyssy and the RWD Mazda MPV come to mind), but that’s the common nomenclature.

  • avatar
    orange260z

    As the father of two young kids (7 & 9), my 911 coupe is practical for daily use in the summer. However, in the winter with boots and snow and mud, I wouldn’t want to have my kids climbing into the back of small two-door car, and here a larger 4 door sedan or SUV is more practical. Also, there will be a point in another 2-4 years where the older one will likely struggle to be comfortable in the back, ending the 911’s time as a “family car”.

  • avatar
    zip89123

    I’d buy a two door pickem up truck if that qualifies as a coupe!

  • avatar
    MoparRocker74

    Have one right now (Challenger R/T) and would buy another in a heartbeat. Im a performance car guy and Im not one to compromise. A proper 2 door coupe is doing the performance car thing the right way. I generally hate sedans. I’ve warmed up to the Charger/300 considerably but at the end of the day, I have no use for a sedan. I don’t have or want kids. If I did, Id buy a cheap beater for family scut work and buy what I want for me.

    Some of this is generational : at 43 Im a solid GenXer. As a car focused guy all my life, 2 door performance cars were always meant for a young single guy. Base versions were for casual buyers–mostly women. Anything with 4 doors is ‘practical’, ‘family’, ‘economy’ or ‘luxury’. Basically that’s for yuppies, families, eggheads and the elderly. I used to apply that to ALL 4 doors but have since opened up some. While Id happily own a Dodge Magnum, crewcab Ram Rebel or Grand Cherokee, sedans are still 99% boring and absolutely suck. I see them at best as a compromise (300, Charger) on down to absolutely despising bland midsizers. At that point, Id have given up entirely on life to choose a cammacord as anything other than a buy-it-for-peanuts used beater to insulate my ‘real’ vehicle from the daily grind.

  • avatar
    427Cobra

    My parents pretty much always had coupes when I was a kid… I don’t recall that we ever considered it a “hassle”… we just got in, & away we went. Granted, times were different… my parents were not perpetually shuttling my sisters & I to athletic or school events… we WALKED to those (or rode our bikes). And back then, parking spaces were wider & more accommodating to longer “coupe” doors. I’ve had many coupes over the years… a ’74 Ford Elite… a ’78 Pontiac Grand LeMans… an ’81 Thunderbird… a ’96 Thunderbird… a ’98 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC… an ’86 Mustang GT… an ’01 Mustang GT… an ’05 Mustang GT… an ’04 Corvette Z06… and a 427 Shelby Cobra (replica). I don’t have kids… so my perspective is likely different, but I don’t recall my parents ever basing their vehicle purchases based on “the kids”. It seems, these days, it’s ALL about the kids. Watching House Hunters on HGTV always cracks me up when young couples base their house-buying decisions on the needs of their children, & being able to keep an eye on them continuously. I don’t think my parents EVER involved us in their decision-making process… we’d just have to “get used to it”. When my parents entertained, we were sent to the basement until called for. And no… we were not traumatized for life as a result.

    end of rant… off soapbox…

    • 0 avatar
      I_like_stuff

      When you walked barefoot to school uphill both ways, was it in 2 feet or 3 feet of snow?

      As long as I can remember there was a station wagon in my garage. Which I assume was due to the fact my sister and I existed and not some great desire by my parents to own a wagon. It’s also why we lived in the ‘burbs with a huge yard and in an excellent school district.

      This was in the 80s.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus

      I can relate, for a family of 5, my dad bought a 4 passenger Escort (3 door, 1985.5) and a single cab Ranger. If we all went somewhere, he has a shell on the bed of the Ranger so my brothers and I could ride back there.

      That changed in 1990 when he finally bought a suitable family vehicle, a new Ford Aerostar, but mostly with road trips in mind. He traded in the Ranger. The Escort was totaled in 1992, and was replaced with a single cab F-150 Custom.

  • avatar
    I_like_stuff

    Only couple I’ve ever owned was the Accord. About 15 years ago.

  • avatar
    Scoutdude

    Give me a big coupe, in the vein of the last 4 seater T-bird or Mark VIII and I’m in. Heck I’ll take a Continental Town Coupe. What is the sense in having a coupe if it isn’t large and imposing? ;) But seriously the back doors on my daily driver rarely get opened and I can’t remember the last time it was to put passengers back there. Usually it is to slide my computer bag behind the seat or to put something that I don’t want to put in the trunk like a jacket. It would be infinitely more practical than a 4dr. Open the door, tilt the seat forward, place the item behind the seat vs opening and closing a second door.

  • avatar
    APaGttH

    …Chevrolet Cruze, Ford Focus, Hyundai Elantra, Nissan Sentra, Subaru Impreza, Toyota Corolla, or Volkswagen Jetta, although their predecessors all offered coupe variants…

    Ummm, not exactly.

    The previous generation Cruze was on the Delta II platform from 2008 to 2016 (depending on market). The second generation Cruze is on the D2XX platform and has been available since 2014 (depending on market).

    The previous generation Cruze did not have a coupe variant in any market.

    The Cobalt’s commonality between the Delta II and the D2XX Cruze is the Chevy logo…and that’s about it.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus

      I don’t think he was referring to the immediate preceding cars, only to their predecessors in history.

      Or did you think he meant the 2007-13ish Corolla, not the Corolla of decades back that did offer a coupe?

      Same with the Jetta and Sentra, how long has it been since they offered a coupe? Certainly not on the generations immediately preceding the current ones.

  • avatar

    Last coupe that I had was my ’07 Civic LX. Great car, but I sold it off (for a profit) when I bought my ’96 Aerostar XLT, mostly because at the time I was working from home and the Civic sat out front and we had three vehicles.

    A month later, I totaled said Aerostar, leaving just the RAV. We went out and got a new CR-V EX-L AWD because I thought that we were moving back to Vegas (turns out we moved to Dallas instead).

    After selling off the RAV when we moved here (Seattle), now we’re down to just the CR-V. Everyday I yearn for another car, but since my wife takes me to work and I don’t have any room to store it, a second car will have to wait until we move again.

    Which will be another coupe.

  • avatar
    Sigivald

    Nope.

    I’ve always thought coupes were pointless, still do.

    (“Oh, it only has two doors, but four seats! And the doors are really long and stupid in parking lots! Yay!”)

    (An actual 2-seater, even if it’s notionally a 2+2, is another matter.)

  • avatar
    MRF 95 T-Bird

    I’ve owned coupes all of my life. My current vehicle is a 95 Thunderbird LX with the 4.6. I do think of trading it in but the book value is only around $1500-1800.
    I would defiantly replace it with another coupe most likely a Mustang, Mini or Saab droptop but what I would really like is a shooting brake or sport hatch like a Volvo C30. Or if they made the BRZ/86 shooting brake concept.
    Coupe like with some practicality on the tail end would suit my needs.

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    Yes. Once my kids are able to do front facing seats I will probably get another coupe. Most likely a used BMW M2xxi, or if they haven’t been priced into the stratosphere, a 997 C2S.

  • avatar
    Vulpine

    In about two years, I’ll be making a big decision; I will very probably be selling my ’97 Ranger and buying either a compact pickup (if one is available), a Renegade or something else. I can tell you this: if the something else is car-based, meaning low roofline and a low CoD, then it had better have two doors, not four. If it has four full doors with visible exterior latch handles, I will not be buying it. I have not once in 40+ years of driving purchased a 4-door car for myself, though I have purchased two Jeep SUVs and a Saturn CUW with 4 doors. Even in those cases, I would have much rather had a Nomad-style 2-door wagon than four full doors.

    Oh, and the same holds true for a truck. I refuse to purchase a crew cab because I honestly don’t need nor want a permanent second row with obvious doors (Sorry Ram; Sorry GM full-size; Sorry Honda). From there it will depend on what’s available and small enough to meet MY needs.

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    1st_one

    I currently have a 2016 Challenger RT for my daily driver and I absolutely love it! My stepfather also has a 2012 Challenger RT 6 speed and he loves his as well. Without a shadow of a doubt I will be purchasing another coupe after my lease expires.

  • avatar
    SteveMar

    I grew up in the backseat of coupes – the first two cars I remember were my parents’ 1968 Ford Mustang (with the 289 V8 in lime green with a black vinyl roof) and 1972 Chevy Malibu (in mojave gold with a tan vinyl roof). Yeah, it was a different era, but my sister and I got used to climbing into the backseat until we were in our teens. It wasn’t a big deal.

    I’ve driven a raft of sedans and minivans for family reasons over the intervening years, but, for my 50th birthday, decided to get a 2016 BMW 228i xdrive. I love it – makes me happy every day I drive it. My sons are teenagers now and I don’t need all the extra space. I zip through traffic, have room for a passenger or two if needed and a trunk to hold overnight bags or groceries. Why would I need two more doors? I’m having too much fun as it is — even with daily driving the 228i. And when it snows, all wheel drive saves me in the Minnesota winters. A win – win all around.

    I do agree that sometimes you need a utility vehicle – we have a 2016 Jetta for most of that and plenty of friends with minivans or SUVs if it comes to that. But I live in a city, don’t tow things and have little need for extra space.

  • avatar
    Mandalorian

    I’m really not sure where the line between sports car and coupe is drawn. Take a 911 for example or a Mustang GT. Both desirable “cool” cars. But a regular old Camcord with two doors hacked off? No thanks.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus

      I don’t understand why it must be a sports car to not be a sedan. There is middle ground for those who want the economy, ease of maintenance and reliability that comes with a “camcord”, yet don’t require 4 doors.

      I’ll grant you that it has been an increasingly small slice of the market that desires such a car, and that’s why they have slowly been killed off.

  • avatar
    tarmorn

    Yes!

    Actually I just leased a BMW m240i xdrive back in June.

    Great car.

    Trucks, and SUVs are not, and will not be on my list. Ever.

    Unless I get a fifth wheel when I retire.

  • avatar
    Maymar

    Married with no kids, so rear doors aren’t a necessity, but as a single car household, something with a little more utility is preferable (I can get my bike in the back of my subcompact hatch without much fighting – that might not be so easy in a normal coupe). That said, except for the Volvo C30, there hasn’t been much good looking enough since the sport coupes of the 90s to make it worthwhile. Also, I used to have a 3-door Hyundai Accent with no A/C and absolutely terrible flow-through ventilation, so as much as I’m probably not going back to something with no A/C, fixed rear windows aren’t desirable.

  • avatar
    Big Al From 'Murica

    Sure I would…so long as it has Bronco badges!

  • avatar
    Johnster

    When I was teenager no self-respecting single American male would be caught dead in a car with 4 doors (unless you were married and had kids). And then, there were lots of families who owned 2-door hardtops as their only family car (although with a bench seat it would seat 6).

    I would certainly buy a coupe again. I was really sad when the Camry Solara went out of production and I’m kind of depressed thinking about the Accord Coupe now going out of production. At least they still make a Civic Coupe for the time being.

    I really wish there were some more coupes to choose from. I keep thinking I’d like a new Riviera or a T-Bird.

  • avatar
    TTCat

    Can and did – 2014 Cayman. Over 40 years of cars, and never owned anything with more than 2 doors…

  • avatar
    rr1071

    we’re drinking again and Just bought another accord coupe. Sold my suzuki truck, and I took over wife’s coupe. Both coupes v6 red. They’re also fun in automatics. These are really good cars. Also had an ‘o4 stick coupe once. Only time that these coupes blow is when I can’t fit stuff in the trunk. I might get a little trailer.

  • avatar
    raph

    Not likely since my favorite car has a B-pillar and therefore technically a sedan albeit a sexy sedan.

  • avatar
    rhduff

    Of course I’d buy one. Every car I’ve owned since car one has been this body style, including the current 2013 Accord I own. I seldom use the back seat, and if I’m going out with a group, someone else usually drives since they don’t want to even attempt getting in the back even though it’s more than roomy enough for an average man. As an aside to marketing professionals, just because you call it a coupe doesn’t make it one. Four frameless door glass doors don’t make a coupe, just as the sunroof on my Accord doesn’t make it a convertible.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus

      Very well put. And yes, the Accord coupe’s rear seat is just fine. People think of trying to fold themselves into a Mustang or Camaro rear seat, and assume all other coupes are like that.

      I would love to have a leftover ’17 Accord coupe.

  • avatar
    tjh8402

    Well I currently drive what might be considered a coupe (a 500 Abarth so a 3 door hatch) although I really wanted a five door. I carry in unusually large amount of stuff with me regularly, so in my case, a coupe is probably just not big enough. That being said, as someone who rarely has more than one person in the car with me, if I could fit all my stuff in the car, I would be open to a coupe. However, It would have to offer a driving advantage (like the old Accord V-6 MT) or a styling advantage (BMW E90 vs E92) for me to seriously consider it.

  • avatar
    SilverCoupe

    Is this a trick question? I have never bought anything but a coupe since I started driving in ’73. I have never looked at a sedan or SUV and thought, “Gosh darn, I want me one of those!”
    I realize of course that I am an anomaly.

    As to whether I would buy one in 2017,
    my 2008 A5 6 speed manual looks as nice as anything else out there, so I am in no rush to replace it. I might buy a 2017 S5 in three years, though.

    I haven’t had any difficulty fitting people in the back seat, thought at my age, most of my friends are in their 60’s. My previous car, a TT, did not really allow for back seat passengers.

    So the only question might be, will my next coupe be silver (a couple of them have not been.)

    Though I have to admit, here in Stockholm, where I have been for a week, the sleek station wagons have certainly gotten my attention.

  • avatar
    PeteRR

    “But coupes — genuine two-doors such as the pillarless Mercedes-Benz E400 4Matic I’m driving (and being massaged by) this week, or the Honda Civic, or the Infiniti Q60, or the Rolls-Royce Wraith — are still available.”

    You’re forgetting about the Dodge Challenger, which is not a pony car, but a genuine full size coupe with an interior to match.

  • avatar
    krhodes1

    Sure, but not as my only car. I prefer 3drs most of all, since I rarely use the back seat to hold anything but my briefcase, but need to carry assorted crap in the back on a reasonably frequent basis. I wish I could have bought a 3dr GTI (or better yet, an M135i). Even more practical for me since I am a big guy – the bigger doors make it easier to get in and out and the further aft positioning of the B-pillar helps visibility. But in the US we are not allowed to have nice things evidently.

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