By on May 10, 2017

2017 Nissan Qashqai - Image: Nissan Canada

#SaveTheManuals?

Nissan USA will not. In changing the name of the pre-facelift Qashqai upon its import from Kyushu, Japan, Nissan has determined a manual transmission does not meet the requirements of the U.S. market. With a 2.0-liter four-cylinder and a continuously variable transmission, the 2017 Nissan Rogue Sport has a starting price of $22,360.

Yet north of the border, Nissan Canada has determined that the Rogue Sport — which keeps the Qashqai name in Canada — ought to be available with a six-speed manual transmission.

Not only a boon for small crossover buyers keen on maintaining a level of interactivity during the morning commute, the manual transmission drops the CAD base price by $2,000.

The result is a Nissan Rogue Sport, or rather a Nissan Qashqai, at a USD-equivalent MSRP of just $15,850.

Sure, it’s not uncommon to find basic vehicles sold in Canada at basic prices. Sometimes the difference is accounted for by equipment; perhaps a lack of standard-fit air-conditioning in Canada. Sometimes older designs for which costs have long since been paid are marketed at bargain basement prices in Canada as a way of keeping domestic factories humming in advance of a model transition.

Yet with increased devaluation of the Canadian dollar over the last couple of years, it’s becoming increasingly common for all-new vehicles — not just replacements of existing products but rather new nameplates in new categories — to feature the kind of pricing that used to make Canadians sick before the 2011/2012/2013 cross-border currency parity. The Mazda MX-5 RF stickers above $40,000, and a basic Alfa Romeo Giulia starts at $50,890.

Not so with Nissan Canada’s basic Qashqai, which comes to market at a price point not unfamiliar to buyers of the Honda Civic LX.

2017 Nissan Qashqai manual shifter – Image: Nissan Europe

It likely won’t be a common beast. Qashqais with the six-speed manual don’t offer all-wheel drive. In fact, all-wheel-drive Qashqais are priced a full $4,200 higher; $2,200 beyond the Qashqai S CVT. Moreover, the manual-trans Qashqai is largely intended for Quebec consumption, Automotive News Canada reports. That’s the direction towards which Nissan Canada gears another product not sold in the U.S., the Micra, which enters the market with an advertised Canadian base price of $9,988 CAD; or $7,300 USD. (It’s $11,588 CAD with fees; $15,248 CAD with a four-speed auto and air conditioning.)

As for the Qashqai’s global naming scheme in Canada that Nissan forsook in the U.S., Automotive News Canada points to the international flavor of Nissan Canada’s brass. The company’s chairman, Christian Meunier, and communications leader, Didier Marsaud, are both from France. Nissan Canada president Joni Paiva is another multilingual European. One problem? The amount of American television that makes its way into Canadian homes means Canadians could see an awful lot of advertising for a Nissan Rogue Sport that isn’t featured on Nissan Canada’s website.

One Qashqai trait that Nissan may not broadly tout is the fuel economy of the manual transmission model. While CVT-equipped Qashqais (in Rogue Sport guise) made TTAC headlines for consuming more fuel than the larger, more powerful Rogue, the front-wheel-drive Qashqai with the six-speed manual is even thirstier, at 10.0L/100km in the city and 8.1 on the highway.

That’s the equivalent of 23.5 and 29.0 miles per gallon on the U.S. scale. The front-wheel-drive Qashqai with a CVT is rated at 8.8L/100km and 7.3, city and highway, respectively, equal to 26.7 and 32.2 mpg U.S.

CVT economy isn’t going to save the manuals.

Timothy Cain is the founder of GoodCarBadCar.net, which obsesses over the free and frequent publication of U.S. and Canadian auto sales figures. Follow on Twitter @timcaincars.

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19 Comments on “Nissan Rogue Sport Is a Truly Cheap Qashqai In Canada, But Has Six-Speed Thirst...”


  • avatar
    deanst

    Too bad the joke, er Juke is so hideous, or there would be no reason to buy the qashqai. Better mpg and more power (188hp turbo) in the juke; price is about the same.

    • 0 avatar
      kvndoom

      We had one for a little over a year. The interior space is atrocious and the turbo lag saps away the fun at low RPM’s.

      Kia Soul with 2.0L is a better car on all counts unless you truly need AWD.

      • 0 avatar
        slavuta

        Soul 2L engine is disaster.

        • 0 avatar
          kvndoom

          Not according to the 16 months I’ve spent with it.

        • 0 avatar
          Steve Biro

          My wife has the same 2-liter engine in her Hyundai Tucson. It’s been a trouble-free peach during the several years she has owned the car.

          • 0 avatar
            TonyJZX

            The problem is nissan put in a low tech low compression 2.0 pfi four

            sure it has the dohc and 16v for marketing but it belongs in another age when the norm is direct injection or turbos or both.

            we had an old xtrail rogue with the same 2.0 in a cvt and it wasnt fast but around town it did 11/100 which is type for a 3,300lb cuv

  • avatar
    87 Morgan

    The result is a Nissan Rogue Sport, or rather a Nissan Qashqai, at a USD-equivalent MSRP of just $15,850.

    I would think there is a market for this car in the U.S. to the point that it may take the crown in the ‘Ace of Base’ series.

    Their are enough people who are willing to learn to drive or can passably drive a clutch and don’t need AWD but do need/want a new car for $15,850 MSRP, which probably has an invoice of $15,150 stack a small rebate and in theory you could buy a new SUV as the masses are going to call it for less than $15k.

    • 0 avatar
      kvndoom

      For that price I’d buy it new. $15K is probably the price ceiling for my next car. By the time I finish paying off my student loans and my daughter’s car within the next 9-12 months, I am NOT gonna be thinking about taking on over $20,000 in new debt for a damn car.

      • 0 avatar
        87 Morgan

        I hear you. I made the decision about 15 years ago my automotive habit needed to be a cash basis only, or I was going to end up one of those morons with 96 month loan on a BMW 750 or some pile similar that depreciates faster than the speed of gravity and have a 110k loan on a 45k car. Super. All my prayers would have been answered.

        So, for me, it is cash money or I don’t own it.

    • 0 avatar
      newenthusiast

      I think you are right that there enough people who would want this at that price.

      But there are not enough dealers who would want to put it on their lots because – manual transmission. Dealers are the customers, not end buyers.

      If enough request it, maybe that would change. But you can’t request or special order a car that the corporate parent doesn’t make available or has federalized.

    • 0 avatar
      threeer

      While certainly true that Americans buy on price (witness the huge trade deficit with China), they don’t tend to buy manuals, regardless of price. I can’t see many of these selling *if* they were to be offered in the US. We just don’t want to shift cars ourselves anymore.

    • 0 avatar
      bahnburner

      Commuters in Chicago would love these. Our tollways are infested with cheap and basic compact crossovers, such as the Outlander Sport, Patriot, and those tiny Hyundai crossovers (Tucson?).

  • avatar
    mleitman

    The overflow US advertising isn’t such an issue, what with PVRs killing much advertising viewing and tv shows being simulcast on Canadian networks with Canadian ads.

  • avatar
    GS 455

    Is Qashqai Japanese for cash cow?

  • avatar
    brandloyalty

    I’d rather see the Xtrail II, but that’s just me.

    “front-wheel-drive Qashqai with the six-speed manual is even thirstier, at 10.0L/100km in the city and 8.1 on the highway. That’s the equivalent of 23.5 and 29.0 miles per gallon on the U.S. scale. The front-wheel-drive Qashqai with a CVT is rated at 8.8L/100km and 7.3, city and highway, respectively, equal to 26.7 and 32.2 mpg U.S.”

    In summer plumage the AWD Escape Hybrid is getting 34mpg US, or under 7L/100km.

  • avatar
    bahnburner

    Fuel economy test numbers for manual vs. auto/CVT can be misleading when you translate them into the real world.

    There’s a thread on the CleanMPG forum where users test the steady state speed (constant speed) vs. MPG of different cars. Wayne Gerdes, the founder of that website, compared the 2016 Honda HR-V 6 spd-MT (25/34) vs. the CVT (28/35). Despite being rated lower, the manual transmission HR-V consistently outperformed its CVT counterpart here:

    Here are the results from his speed vs. fuel economy chart:

    50 MPH: 50.3 MPG for 6-spd manual; 45.3 MPG for CVT

    55 MPH: 46.9 MPG for 6-spd manual; 42.5 MPG for CVT

    60 MPH: 42.7 MPG for 6-spd manual; 39.4 MPG for CVT

    65 MPH: 37.8 MPG for 6-spd manual; 35.9 MPG for CVT

    70 MPH: 34.9 MPG for 6-spd manual; 33.7 MPG for CVT

    I believe this has more to do with the inherent drivetrain loss that comes with automatic/CVT vs. manual. I read somewhere that conventional autos have the most drivetrain loss, followed by CVTs, then manuals. I know the EPA test cycles also involve accelerating and decelerating at various speeds, in which case CVTs may in fact outperform manuals, but I think this is still worth considering depending on the nature of your commute (i.e. urban vs. highway environment).

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