Infiniti-Mercedes Partnership Appears Dead in the Water, But Nissan CEO Denies It

Matt Posky
by Matt Posky

After a report appeared claiming that Nissan is scrapping a joint development effort with Mercedes-Benz, the Japanese automaker’s CEO says the two partners haven’t split up.

Japan’s second-largest carmaker and Germany’s oldest made an agreement in 2010 to share engines and platforms for Infiniti and several compact Mercedes-Benz models. A new platform is planned for a cooperative factory in Mexico opening this year, and a decision to back out would throw a wrench into the future of the $1 billion plant

Each company had anticipated making use of the facility to produce smaller vehicles on the jointly-funded MFA2 architecture, minimizing production costs.

In October, Nissan decided that its premium division would not make use of the platform. According to Reuters, Infiniti was not selling enough vehicles to soak up the technology costs.

“It wasn’t possible to close a deal on the basis of MFA2,” said an inside source. “The targets set by Infiniti were too difficult to achieve.”

Daimler and Nissan told Reuters in separate statements that they’ll only pursue joint ventures when it is “beneficial for both sides.” While neither commented directly on the shared platform, both stated that talks remain ongoing. Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn also denied that there was cause for alarm over the partnership.

“The collaboration with Mercedes is going well,” Ghosn told reporters at the Consumer Electronics Show. “Every time that we make a change in the project, doesn’t mean that the project is condemned.”

Regardless, Nissan won’t be using the small-car platform for the future Infiniti Q40 — leaving it solely for the next generation of Mercedes’ compact A-Class. The tribulation could also affect the status of Infiniti’s Q30 and QX30, both of which use Daimler’s M270 engine and ride on the same platform that underpins the GLA and CLA-Class. Nissan will likely face reduced investment in the Sunderland, England factory that produces the Q30, since it makes use of Mercedes-Benz’s tooling amenities there.

Officially, engine sharing between Infiniti and Mercedes — and Renault and Smart — remains on the table. The manufacturers haven’t weighed in on there being any problems collaborating on van or pickup projects. It’s just the small Infiniti joint that looks to be dead in the water, which it isn’t surprising considering their sad place in the market.

U.S. demand for smaller cars is way down and Infiniti has had a hard go of it in general — especially outside the United States. Last year it only managed to sell 16,000 vehicles in Western Europe and 230,000 globally.

[Image: Infiniti]

Matt Posky
Matt Posky

A staunch consumer advocate tracking industry trends and regulation. Before joining TTAC, Matt spent a decade working for marketing and research firms based in NYC. Clients included several of the world’s largest automakers, global tire brands, and aftermarket part suppliers. Dissatisfied with the corporate world and resentful of having to wear suits everyday, he pivoted to writing about cars. Since then, that man has become an ardent supporter of the right-to-repair movement, been interviewed on the auto industry by national radio broadcasts, driven more rental cars than anyone ever should, participated in amateur rallying events, and received the requisite minimum training as sanctioned by the SCCA. Handy with a wrench, Matt grew up surrounded by Detroit auto workers and managed to get a pizza delivery job before he was legally eligible. He later found himself driving box trucks through Manhattan, guaranteeing future sympathy for actual truckers. He continues to conduct research pertaining to the automotive sector as an independent contractor and has since moved back to his native Michigan, closer to where the cars are born. A contrarian, Matt claims to prefer understeer — stating that front and all-wheel drive vehicles cater best to his driving style.

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  • Sector 5 Sector 5 on Jan 07, 2017

    Doesn't Nissan NA stand to get Trumped owing to all it's Mexican production? Then there's Brexit facing Sunderland despite the reassurance.

  • RHD RHD on Jan 08, 2017

    Mercedes: "Infiniti, like always, you want to sell them too cheap!" Infiniti: "Mercedes, like usual, you want to make them too cheap!" But they both agree that manufacturing with low-paid labor in Mexico is the right kind of cheap for both companies.

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  • Kwik_Shift_Pro4X '19 Nissan Frontier @78000 miles has been oil changes ( eng/ diffs/ tranny/ transfer). Still on original brakes and second set of tires.
  • ChristianWimmer I have a 2018 Mercedes A250 with almost 80,000 km on the clock and a vintage ‘89 Mercedes 500SL R129 with almost 300,000 km.The A250 has had zero issues but the yearly servicing costs are typically expensive from this brand - as expected. Basic yearly service costs around 400 Euros whereas a more comprehensive servicing with new brake pads, spark plugs plus TÜV etc. is in the 1000+ Euro region.The 500SL servicing costs were expensive when it was serviced at a Benz dealer, but they won’t touch this classic anymore. I have it serviced by a mechanic from another Benz dealership who also owns an R129 300SL-24 and he’ll do basic maintenance on it for a mere 150 Euros. I only drive the 500SL about 2000 km a year so running costs are low although the fuel costs are insane here. The 500SL has had two previous owners with full service history. It’s been a reliable car according to the records. The roof folding mechanism needs so adjusting and oiling from time to time but that’s normal.
  • Theflyersfan I wonder how many people recalled these after watching EuroCrash. There's someone one street over that has a similar yellow one of these, and you can tell he loves that car. It was just a tough sell - too expensive, way too heavy, zero passenger space, limited cargo bed, but for a chunk of the population, looked awesome. This was always meant to be a one and done car. Hopefully some are still running 20 years from now so we have a "remember when?" moment with them.
  • Lorenzo A friend bought one of these new. Six months later he traded it in for a Chrysler PT Cruiser. He already had a 1998 Corvette, so I thought he just wanted more passenger space. It turned out someone broke into the SSR and stole $1500 of tools, without even breaking the lock. He figured nobody breaks into a PT Cruiser, but he had a custom trunk lock installed.
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