Honda Civic Si Gets New Motor for LA Debut
To say that details on the next-generation Honda Civic Si have been limited would be a massive understatement. Honda fanboys — and even normal people — have been hungry for even the barest scraps of information.
Well, we finally have a scrap. The Los Angeles Auto Show recently let loose in a press release that Honda will introduce the tenth generation Civic Si at their expo in November. They also ended some of the speculation on what type of engine we can expect.
Either way, you can probably assume the engine will make somewhere in the neighborhood of 220 horsepower, rev high, and offer a six-speed manual transmission. Spy photos circulating the internet suggest the Si will arrive as a coupe, though sedan or hatchback variants can’t be ruled out. Aggressive styling cues, on the other hand, are guaranteed.
Before the Civic Si debuts in LA, the Type R prototype will make its North American debut at the SEMA show in Las Vegas.
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I expect a detuned version of the CTR's 2.0T, because it needs to compete with the Focus ST, GTI, and WRX on power and torque. I agree with Tedward on this. As for body styles, I thought we basically knew the Si was arriving in coupe and sedan form only, but I'm not sure where I read that. If true, that might partially explain why the "Sport" version is hatch only. I'd love to see an Si hatch though. I sat in a new EX-L Navi hatch last week, and I think I'd prefer that configuration to the sedan. I even think it looks cool, in a funky/functional way. Heck, if the 6MT Sport version with 180 hp feels strong enough and the Si rides too hard for the city, I might even go for the Sport hatch over an Si.
The 2.0 makes a lot more sense for responsiveness I would imagine, plus it could help lower CTR prices because of scale. A 1.5T can be tuned to 200HP for anyone with an EX with a chip.
What a bore! I was hoping for an NA SI, now that "objectively faster, come what may," contingent gets the turbo'd R to play with. Half of Honda's sporty car fan base, became Fanbois on account of impossibly high rev ceilings (and shift action at least a few notches above the rest.) I guess there's always the chance Acura is allowed to revive itself, by fitting a tradition proper vtec revver in the new chassis. Might even make some sort of sense, as the original vtec demographic is supposed to shop for Acuras now, leaving Civics for their kids. Can't imagine a more wholesome car ad, than son and dad along a sinous Cali coastal road. Kiddo tearing it up in a modern turbo'd Honda, with daddy in hot pursuit banging off upshifts at 9X00 rpms in a similar boned Acura...
Honda/Acura have a track record of producing exceptionally reliable engines.They rarely drop the ball! I suspect that the 2.0L with a turbo putting out 220hp.250 or so ft.Lbs would satisfy this equation I'm an Audi guy but I'm more than willing to admit that Honda knows how to make a bulletproof efficient fun to wind out engine.