By on October 24, 2016

Vision Future Luxury BMW 2014

BMW is resurrecting a lengthy and luxurious V12-powered monster to take revenge on Mercedes-Benz for having the audacity to make an opulent flagship like the S-Class Coupe.

Germany’s Automobilwoche — Automobile Week if you don’t speak Deutsche — is verifying rumors that BMW will be returning with a new 8 Series.

Unlike what happened in 1989, the reintroduction of the 8 Series shouldn’t immediately lead to the demise of the 6 Series. BMW currently plans to maintain production of the 6 Series coupes and convertible, thought the model’s role may change to avoid stepping on the toes of its new big brother, or vice versa. We’ve already said that we expect the 6 to lose a couple of seats, trim off a little weight, and adopt a more typical grand tourer persona to better step into the ring with Porsche’s 911 and Mercedes-Benz’s upcoming E-Class coupe.

As for the 8 Series, a two-door is expected to arrive near the end of 2018, with a convertible appearing the following year. An M8 performance variant is currently under consideration. According to sources, and true to previous 8 Series form, a 12-cylinder engine will be made available. Most likely that dozen-piston demon will come from the 7 Series, which offers a turbocharged 6.6-liter V12 making 600 horsepower. The new coupe will share the 7 Series sedan’s partial carbon-fiber skeleton as well.

Spy photos have shown the prototype 8s to have a very long wheelbase, although not as long as the 7 Series’ 126.4 inches. Its partially obscured face is highly reminiscent of the Vision Future Luxury Concept from 2014, shown above.

BMW filed trademark applications to gain control of a host of possible car names last spring. Those included 825, 830, 835, 845, 850, M850 and M8. Which of those will be showing up in 2018 is unknown, but it’s a safe bet that the 850s will get the V12. The theoretical 845 would hopefully get the 7 Series’ V8 while the other cars could have anything from the 740i’s turbocharged inline six to the four-cylinder hybrid combo found on the 740e. Whatever the engine, expect it to be mated to BMW’s ZF eight-speed automatic. If you want a manual transmission 8 Series, you’ll have to check the classifieds.

The new 8 Series is expected to be slotted between the the 7 Series and BMW Group’s own Rolls-Royce Wraith in terms of price. Averaging out the difference, that places it around $122,500 — which, if you hadn’t already guessed, is almost exactly the same as a Mercedes-Benz’s S-Class Coupe. One could comfortably use that information to place a hypothetical top-tier BMW 8 Series’ future MSRP very close to the S65 AMG’s starting price of $236,250.

[Image: BMW Group]

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14 Comments on “Rumble in the Rhineland: BMW’s New Flagship Coupe to Give Mercedes-Benz What For in 2018...”


  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    Having seen the interior of an S-Coupe up close, the 8-Series is going to have a hard time outdoing it.

    • 0 avatar
      Bazza

      They’ll try to best the 0-60 (or 0-62, whatever) and maybe throw in some N-ring cred to lure the “enthusiasts”. A few rubes will fall for it, but most recognize that if you’re not rolling up in the S then you’re not to be taken seriously. As it should be.

  • avatar
    Cactuar

    Look at how silly the tiny BMW roundel looks between those oversized grilles. Is BMW getting inspiration from the whale grilles over at Lincoln?

  • avatar
    ajla

    The current S-Class Coupe is a very attractive and cool car.

    The original 8-series was a very attractive and cool car. The renderings I’m seeing for the new 8, not so much.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      It’s very quilty. So leather. Many wood.

      Funny to look back at the 8-Series to see how it’s aged. It’s so… plain! There’s not much excitement there, especially compared to a prior BMW special coupe like the M1.

  • avatar
    heliotropic

    With that long of a wheelbase how many doors will this coupe have? 4? 6?

  • avatar
    JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

    Oh man, BMW is vying for my attention again. After pretty much neutering its smaller cars while going crossover crazy, at least the big BMWs will be something to envy. I love me some big ass coupes. Between this and the S-Class coupe, the Germans may have found a new (old?) niche to exploit. I believe true driving enthusiasts will choose the Giulia over the current 3 (etc) series, but the idea of a big RWD PLC from Alfa Romeo isn’t flattering, and I say that with much love for the brand and the Giulia in particular.

    I liked the idea of the original 8 series. I just thought the flip-up headlights made it look cheap. It was very unbecoming of a car of that status. I don’t care if Ferrari had them, I don’t like having to look twice to make sure I didn’t see a first gen Ford Probe on the rare occasion of spotting an 8 somewhere. I certainly wouldn’t want others to make that mistake if I dropped that kind of coin on a large German coupe.

    I always thought it would be funny to put “PROBE SE” graphics on the lower doors to see if anyone got it. Yes, I know, the SE (and that decal) was from the 2nd gen Probe, but it would still be hilarious.

    Back to (large, RWD) PLC’s, I still think Chrysler could use one, called Baracuda. It won’t knock on S-Class or 8-Series doors, but like the Chrysler 300, it would be a more obtainable car than the ones it emulates.

    Since all these marques have been dropped, I have wondered if their former parents could make just one iconic car from that make, and sell it through their current dealer network without restarting the entire brand.

    For example, Ford could create a new Mercury Cougar, just like the original, a larger, less-performance orinted version of Mustang. Technically, it would be the Ford Mercury Cougar, or better yet, the Lincoln Mercury Cougar. The exterior badging and styling would be a modern variation of the original Cougar, with one small “Mercury” on the decklid. In this case, the cougar head could be the badge on the steering wheel, keys, center caps, etc.

    GM could retail an Oldsmobile Cutlass, based on the ATS/Camaro, slotted between the Camaro and ATS coupe, sold by Buick-GMC. Styling would include the long thin rectangle tail lamps, the split grille, the “gangsta” or “formal” roofline, much like the well-loved Cutlass of yore. Much like the Cougar I proposed, it would be larger and more plush than its pony car sibling. Less racy, more comfortable. At the very least, it would be a good way to buy a new Camaro you can see out of.

    I don’t see any of this happening, but it would be fun to at least do a concept of one of these (probably the Cougar since GM already teased us with the never-gonna-happen Avineir [sp?]). Even if it ended up just being the Lincoln Cougar, that would be better than nothing.

  • avatar
    probert

    These damned socialists and their luxury coupes!! This is what health care a decent education gets you – be afraid – very afraid.

  • avatar
    pmirp1

    Hello Caddy, Since BMW is the brand Caddy likes to imitate, does the intro of uber BMW coupe, finally mean we can get a Caddy coupe slightly larger than mini size ATS coupe? Can we name it Eldorado?

  • avatar
    amca

    It’s my fond hope that this revival of the big ol’ coupe is an indication that at the top end of the market buyers are getting bored with SUVs.

    OK, a guy can dream.

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    “No Benz/Bentley/Aston/Rolls no care,” said the ~$200K+ luxury market

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    I have a stack of pink bills with a man in a top hat in the portrait, do you take those?

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