No LIDAR Means No Safety in Self-Driving Vehicles, Says Auto Supplier Exec

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems

If you’re going to let people take their hands off the wheel and let the vehicle do the driving, you’d better offer every tool available to make sure it’s safe.

That’s the view of Stefan Sommer, CEO of German auto parts supplier ZF Friedrichshafen, who advocated for the use of LIDAR (light detection and ranging) in autonomous or semi-autonomous vehicles in the wake of the fatal Tesla crash.

Quoted in Automotive News, Sommer said he didn’t have any details on the May 7 crash that killed Joshua Brown, but he did know what it takes to make sure a vehicle knows what’s in front of it.

“For autonomous driving, we will need three core technologies: picture processing camera technology, short and long-range radar and lidar,” Sommer said at a news conference today.

LIDAR uses laser beams to map out objects in front of a vehicle in a similar manner to radar waves. It’s an expensive technology, but several companies are actively pursuing it — including U.S.-based Velodyne and a Canadian developer that plans to conduct vehicle trials over the next two years.

Sommer said that LIDAR’s ability to recognize objects in bright-light and low-light situations makes it essential for any autonomous driving system. While he refrained from mentioning Tesla’s technology, that company’s Autopilot uses only a forward-facing radar and camera to see the road ahead, along with external sensors to monitor the vehicle’s immediate surroundings.

Brown’s Model S drove underneath the trailer of a transport truck while on Autopilot after the system failed to recognize the brightly lit trailer against the equally bright sky. Tesla confirmed that the light confused the system, but repeated its earlier warning that drivers need to remain aware of the road and be able to respond quickly while using Autopilot.

A Tesla Model S test vehicle spotted in California in March appeared to be outfitted with LIDAR, meaning future versions of Autopilot could adopt the technology. If it does go that route, Tesla could market Autopilot as a fully autonomous system, once lawmakers allow it.

Of course, there’s always those looking for an easier way to get the same result. In an interview with TTAC, Millennial hacker-turned-inventor George Hotz — who created his own self-driving vehicle from an Acura ILX — said he plans to develop a camera-only system for autonomous driving. His ILX testbed used LIDAR at first, but he said the cost of a Velodyne device is prohibitive. Cameras, on the other hand, have never been cheaper.

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  • Stuki Stuki on Jul 07, 2016

    And "Moooh," says a cow. Humans manage with nothing but a fo4rward facing stereo camera. No doubt Lidar has properties that, at least seemingly, is desirable for auto awareness in traffic, but it's hardly black and white. In general, and as much as this flies in the face of pervasive indoctrinated progressive dogma, "................., says some dude equipped with a hole in the head from which sound can emanate" carries exactly, no more no less, as much weight as ditto from the cow mentioned above. Build an autonomous car using Lidar, and see if yours, over time, meaningfully outperforms all those built without. No use moooh'ing about it.

  • Ricky Spanish Ricky Spanish on Jul 07, 2016

    And in the process my Valentine One becomes useless . . .

  • Funky D The problem is not exclusively the cost of the vehicle. The problem is that there are too few use cases for BEVs that couldn't be done by a plug-in hybrid, with the latter having the ability to do long-range trips without requiring lengthy recharging and being better able to function in really cold climates.In our particular case, a plug-in hybrid would run in all electric mode for the vast majority of the miles we would drive on a regular basis. It would also charge faster and the battery replacement should be less expensive than its BEV counterpart.So the answer for me is a polite, but firm NO.
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  • Cprescott A cheaper golf cart will not make me more inclined to screw up my life. I can go 500 plus miles on a tank of gas with my 2016 ICE car that is paid off. I get two weeks out of a tank that takes from start to finish less than 10 minutes to refill. At no point with golf cart technology as we know it can they match what my ICE vehicle can do. Hell no. Absolutely never.
  • Cprescott People do silly things to their cars.
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