By on July 1, 2016

Bacon and Maple Syrup Canadian Flag, Image: MorningNapalm/reddit

Since a significant part of our staff lives north of the Freedom Border, we’re keeping it light today.

As Steph does each Canada Day, he’ll be crossing the Upper/Lower Canada border to extol the benefits of federalism to separatists. I’ll be reciting “O, Canada” with the gender pronouns intact while eating Canadian bacon and pledging allegiance to the ghost of John Candy. Tim will be counting up U.S. sales numbers. Sad!

You still have a couple of news items coming your way today, so stay tuned. Also, make sure to come back on July 4th as we will have a special piece from Jack (not Mark) Baruth.

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166 Comments on “It’s Canada Day, So We’re Going to Roll Around in Maple Syrup and Drink Molson X...”


  • avatar
    JimZ

    Are you going to Follow The Only Road to Ottawa?

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    I will be celebrating the week of July 4th in Canada, far from civilization. Happy Canada Day!

    As for Molson – blech… sorry.

    • 0 avatar

      For the record: I despise Molson, but it’s the one brand that American’s always remember — our crappiest beer.

      • 0 avatar
        Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

        Labbat is more popular in Detroit. We treat it like a domestic beer, eh.

        • 0 avatar
          JimZ

          yep. I daresay Labatt is way more popular than Bud.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            I agree. When I go to someone’s house for a party, there is a higher likelihood of Labbat being available than Bud or Bud Light.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Is Labatt any good? Cause down here it’s likely to be Bud Light or Miller Light. I’d rather have High Life meself if we’re doing cheap beers.

          • 0 avatar
            JimZ

            it’s still a light lager, but it’s a step above Bud. I’d rather a medium-hopped IPA but I’m not such a snob where I’ll turn down a Bud or Labatt.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            So it’s the Canadian version of Rolling Rock?

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            I think it’s better than those beers that you mentioned.

            I’m with Jim though. I bought a case of Founders All Day IPA in cans for my vacation. That’s my Bud Light now.

          • 0 avatar
            stuntmonkey

            Bud is more popular in Canada than Canadians are willing to admit. It’s always piled high like a Walmart centre isle when you go to the liquor store.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            No. Rolling Rock is Pennsylvanian horse pi$$.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Hahah. So many opportunities for bad beer. And yet, when I drink G&T there is not this possibility.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            I’m a 7&7 guy, but I’ve been drinking vodka & soda lately. With a whole [email protected] lime per glass.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Lol YUCK, two non flavored things plus lime. Why vodka?

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            I’ll throw mint in there if I have it. I like club soda/sparkling water.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Fresh mint ftw! Plant some in a controlled pot/planter, it grows like mad. When you want some, just head outside and chop it down.

          • 0 avatar

            I have become a Gin and tonic person lately and occasionally a Tom Collins. I do have a stash of Leinenkugel’s summer shandy in the fridge because it is damn delicious at a barbecue.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            The thing I love about G&T is how easy it is to make. Three ingredients which you eyeball. In comparison, making a mojito is like a meal. I have to go pick spices from the yard, and muddle things.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Rolling Rock last I checked was moved to NJ, so now its NJ p!sswater :D

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            The factory in Latrobe is closed?

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            I remember when it closed, but apparently it reopened since then.

            “In 2012, Diageo moved production of the U.S. supply of Red Stripe from Jamaica to the U.S.; City Brewing Company is producing the supply in their Latrobe brewery. Guinness Blonde is also currently being brewed in this brewery.”

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latrobe_Brewing_Company

            “The brand was sold to Anheuser-Busch of St. Louis, Missouri, in mid-2006, which transferred brewing operations to New Jersey.”

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Rock

        • 0 avatar
          PRNDLOL

          How much does a tall can six pack cost in the US? Here in Toronto I’ll grab six Old Milwaukee because at $11.50 (near the legal minimum price for 6 tall cans) it’s 2.50 less than Budweiser, and I’m a cheap son of a bitch. Alcohol in Ontario is taxed at a rate to keep consumption in check, much like cigarette taxes are used.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            Jeez. That’s pricey. A 24 pack of Bud or Bud Light goes for about $16 around here. You can get a 30-pack of Old Milwaukee cans for less than that.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            You people should remember that bottled beer is where it’s at! Canned beer always tastes inferior IMO.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Real beer is usually $30/case in these parts, so in my view Bud Light is expensive.

            American was $9/case in 2003…

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            Naw man. Canned is good. I like bottles, but one pint cans are where it’s at. Also, cans travel better in a boat, in a cooler, or on the beach. Cans be for summer.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I never go any of those places, ha. When we played croquet on the lawn, I just brought a table out there for drinks area.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            There are some beers that do really well in cans, and I actually prefer them to be served that way. Session IPAs, some stouts, and some lighter brown ales. All better in cans.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Around here, all the local breweries are very on-trend with doing cans only. Go to a nice restaurant and get at $6 beer, and they bring you a can.

            I do not approve.

            Also, most the local places are doing IPA crap.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            “IPA crap”

            Facepalm.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            Much facepalm

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I’m not sorry about not liking the taste of hops.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            I don’t care much for Belgians but I appreciate the fact others do.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I wasn’t suggesting nobody else should drink all the IPAs. Have at it.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            I feel the same way about gin. I don’t want to drink a juniper bush and a pine tree.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            There might be some orange tree in there too.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            I’m partial to Bombay, but you can’t drink it straight (which may be what you’re doing wrong Bball, er Adam, er Officer Bball)

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Oh lord no, never straight gin. If you must just have straight gin, New Amsterdam is most acceptable for that.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            I haven’t ordered something with gin in it in over a decade. Maybe I’d like it now. I have a lot of scotch and bourbon I need to drink before I buy any gin though. And I can drink those with a couple ice cubes.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            You owe it to science to try some gin again, with tonic and lime.

            Litre:
            Bombay $18 – botanical, citrus
            New Amsterdam $11 – citrus
            Segram’s Distillers Select $11 – botanical, more dry
            Gordon’s $9 – botanical, peppery

            Fancy:
            Hendrick’s $35 – cucumber, light botanical (delicious but fancy)

            Avoid:
            Beefeater – too expensive, super dry
            Boodles – dry and tastes like nothing but a bit of chemicals, expensive

          • 0 avatar

            I usually go for Bombay or Hendricks. I never liked Vodka I like Bourbon and Scotch they were my go to drink until about 2 years ago (around when I first tried Hendricks). I remember early on I tended to drink rum drinks (boat drinks) but I haven’t ordered one of those in years.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            I’ve got some Czech vodka at home which is ideal for such an application. The brand is called Stalin’s Tears.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            No Segrams…long story. I’ll condense it.

            In college. Asked a dude to buy us some Segrams Whiskey. He was a dumba$$ and bought gin. It was one of the big 1.5L bottles. Bought some juice. Drank the whole thing with a couple friends. Woke up with no pants on the floor or an MSU sorority at 5 am. Still had my wallet. Borrowed a towel and walked almost two miles back to my dorm. Passed a final exam at 9 am.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            That story just made it sound like Seagrams caused you to be winning. I don’t see the prob. :D

            Segrams Distillers Select is very different than regular, anyway. I wouldn’t buy the regular stuff. This comes in a very nice black bottle, and is not available in larger sizes. Seagrams employed a lot of my hometown before I was born, so I feel some connection to it.

          • 0 avatar
            Adam Tonge (bball40dtw)

            I guess it did…

            Thank you booze.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Beer, rum, cheap red wine, and vodka were all I ever saw at college. I don’t think I knew gin existed until afterward.

            My bad experience was with Southern Comfort, the smell of it still makes me feel a bit sick.

          • 0 avatar
            JimZ

            I’m up for a gin & tonic. Or a jynnan tonnyx. I’ll even take a gee-N’N-T’N-ix, or a chinanto/mnigs (but only on Silvolvia.)

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            My dad can’t say gin correctly. “Jim.” Every time.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Maybe he’s asking for some Jim Beam?

      • 0 avatar

        Your in the Atlantic provinces wouldn’t it be more appropriate to drink Moose Head?
        Oddly I was in a bar in NOLA last year that had Moose Head it may have been the first time I drank since I lived in Maine on the New Brunswick border.

        • 0 avatar
          Piston Slap Yo Mama

          Gotta gives the hipsters credit for making the micro-brew scene into a Big Thing. Now everyone has access to brewskis that aren’t Molson / Labatt. Even if you don’t dig the man-buns and beards, the beer is the saving grace.

      • 0 avatar
        RobertRyan

        Same as Fosters here. I do not know anyone who drinks it

      • 0 avatar
        RobertRyan

        Big Al from Oz
        Should be one election, I will sit in front of the TV and watch

    • 0 avatar
      hoserdad

      Ok, I admit it, except for the odd Kokanee when I visit BC, I’ll stick with Stella or Newcastle Brown – not very Canadian of me.

  • avatar
    FOG

    The photo is false advertising! That is real bacon, not Canadian bacon in that photo! Now I need to go find a Tony’s restaurant and order their BLT with a pound of “real” bacon on it.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    The US has its own special anniversary today!

    Because on this date in 1963, ZIP codes were introduced. I’m sure we have some people like Kenmore or Ronnie old enough to remember the introduction and implementation period!

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    By the way, your Jakeman’s maple cookies are f*cking delicious. I want to acquire some in the US.

  • avatar
    mleitman

    I live in Ottawa. Please tell me where I can find this “Canadian bacon” of legend. I’ve never been able to find it, despite searching on either side of the rivière des Outaouais. All I ever find is something called back bacon. I wonder why the Americans gave it the “Canadian” descriptor. I guess it’s better to have our country associated with meaty goodness than with processed cheese-food slices.

  • avatar
    dukeisduke

    That stuff in the picture, is that really Canadian Bacon? I always thought Canadian Bacon was more like ham. I’ve eaten enough Canadian Bacon pizzas over the years.

  • avatar
    gtemnykh

    Slow day here as well.

    I’m gonna go ahead and treat this like an open forum as only B&B stalwarts can:

    Shopping for a cheap second car to keep my beloved 4Runner out of the salt, and to also use as a Lyft rig. Requirements are 2004 or newer, cheaper the better but an upper limit (ideally) of $3500. Got beaten to the punch on a really clean ’04 Lancer Sportback last night that sold for $2900 with 110k. Looking at a ’05 Ford Five Hundred with 139k miles (FWD and 6A, NOT AWD or CVT thankfully). What sayeth the B&B? I default to Toyotas in general, but I can’t touch a Camry that isn’t a rebuilt title (not allowed for Lyft), and the only Corollas within range are 04 cars in mediocre condition and 150k+ miles. I’m trying to stick with ‘unloved’ makes/models with clean histories and without a penchant for serious reliability problems or hard/expensive to find parts. A see Kia Amantis somewhat regularly, 04-05 Sonatas. Default reaction is to recoil, but is there any reason to fear these? Saturn Ions pop up, I figure a 2.2L Ecotec with a 5spd can’t be too bad, although my brother has seen some top end issues (manufacturing defect) on these motors before that required the head to be replaced.

    • 0 avatar
      dukeisduke

      Why would anyone buy a used Mitsu? Especially one with over 100k? It’s already on borrowed time.

      • 0 avatar
        gtemnykh

        A pretty common misconception IMO, mostly brought about by sub-prime owners putting the poor cars through the ringer. This generation of Lancer (at least the wagons) is actually 100% made in Japan and is a very well built car. Sit in the interior, it harkens back to the good old days of soft touch vinyl dash pads and nice clicking switches from Japan Inc. The other old school thing about them that is less desirable is the short 60k t-belt interval. Not ideal, but hardly a deal breaker for a DIYer such as myself.

      • 0 avatar

        Actually if you look at consumer reports and other reliability data Mitsu ain’t bad, as long as you avoid some of the higher tech stuff built in the 90’s.

    • 0 avatar
      VoGo

      I’m voting for a 12 year old Ford Taurus (possibly wagon). There are a million out there under $3,000 — just buy the one in the best shape you can find.

    • 0 avatar
      bumpy ii

      Amati is a goofball and IIRC is pre-Hyundai under the sheet metal. Sonatas of that era are generally good cars if not beaten on, as are the XG350s. Ions shed their trim and interior parts like a shaggy dog in Arizona.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Can you get in a Scion xB gen 1 for that money? Nice practical shape. Or a Matrix perhaps.

      Gen 1 Outlander is a forgotten vehicle which is also Japan made.

    • 0 avatar

      I really like the Sport Backs but they are short on the ground. I saw one up here a few weeks ago as well but higher mileage. 04-05 Sonatas should be fine as long as the mileage isn’t to high. I have several relatives that own them (V6 versions) and my neighbor across the street has an 06 that seems to have held up really well (like no repairs other then brakes at 100k miles). For budget bang I would look at Mitsubishi’s, certain Nissan, Impala’s, Mazda 6, and maybe Fusions. Honda and Toyota are gonna be pretty much no go’s under 3k. I have seen several early 2000’s maximas that are clean in that range thou. I hate to even suggest this but certain disliked Mopar vehicles are hitting this price range with really low miles, and while some are crap (I’m looking at you 2.7) some really aren’t that bad.

    • 0 avatar
      brettc

      Was looking for something before the TDI settlement broke. Found a 2007 Ford 500 for $2900 that appeared to be pretty well maintained with 100k on it. So maybe a 500?

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/5636792393.html

      Optima is cheap and clean and lower miles.

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      The Church will recommend G and W body 3800 of course, but also things like Vibe/Matrix, Scion xB, Acura RL, Gen 2 Focus, late DN101 Taurus/Sable (not good for Lyft but also Z-body Saturn SL as a great beater). I’d avoid GM Delta I bc f those. I know you like Mitsus, so those I guess. That Ford 500 sounds like high miles and you have to remember those are essentially a P2 Volvo in and out, and the P2 has its share of issues.

      I’d also ask does Lyft have a rolling requirement every year for MY of the car you drive. I thought Uber drivers in Vegas told me Uber did, so if Lyft does as well you might be boned on an MY05 say next year.

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        Checked into the RL, and 04 was the last year of the old style. Can’t touch one for $3500 with <150k.

        I don't think he will really enjoy Lyft once he tries it. He already got dat engineer money, them chauffeur pennies won't look like much.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          We went through this with Dal, they were averaging $2600 when I crunched numbers for him. They also can do about 300K and be sold running. People don’t know what RL is and unlike Lex LS, it doesn’t sell itself. Old lady/estate RL MY01-04, this could be a nice buy and except for the trans and poor mileage, could be a nice runner.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Yes, but with single-year availability per his requirement, options are VERY limited.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            The minimum Lyft allows in 2016 is MY04 however in several states and cities it is MY06 or newer. Like Uber, I expect them to raise requirements next year or certainly the year after. So my view is either drop the Lyft requirement because you’re going to get aged out soon, or up your minimum year now to MY07. Personally I’d drop the Lyft requirement and look for some unloved Japanese made iron MY00-06ish.

            Uber drivers in Vegas were using their primary cars and beating the hell out of them, in most cases to help make payments. This might make sense when you are still in extended warranty/just out of it under say 80K but old car + mad miles + Lyft abuse? Ehhhhhh……

            http://www.ridesharingdriver.com/lyft-vehicle-requirements-drive-for-lyft-with-these-cars/

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I think drop the Lyft bit too. The price doesn’t work with Lyft needs, the company has designed it not to.

          • 0 avatar

            I have a cousin who started driving for Uber he was happy with earning about $12.00 an hour on average until I pointed out that with gas and wear and tear on his 14 optima it was well under minimum wage.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Precisely. I’m not sure what his market is like in terms of taxi demand, but if they money is there simply buy something newer and make payments. Then use Uber/Lyft to help make the payments. Uber drivers told me Uber takes 25%, and most fares in Vegas were around $10 or more. However insurance companies are not reacting well to Uber/Lyft, I believe only Allstate has a non commercial policy which offers Lyft/Uber coverage.

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            mopar4wd

            My lyft driving has nothing to do with making money, more of a side hobby for a guy that loves to drive and doesn’t mind meeting new people.

            In what little driving I did with my Civic, I think I barely broke even on gas, and not even that once I factor in that I bought seat covers and floor mats specifically for the job!

        • 0 avatar

          I may look at a RL next time. I currently drive a P2 volvo the first 2 years of ownership wasn’t bad but the list of crap going wrong now at 130k miles is gettin old fast. (just dropped $1600.00 at a local indie)
          On the RL I noticed my Indie mechanic was daily driving one and he had another around back I may have to ask him but they seem like a decent value.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I think they’re a good idea, especially the revised gen 1 version 01-04. And yes they look like a big Accord, but they come in cheaper when it’s time to buy. Got a good amount of space and a nice interior. And like 28 mentions, they’re forgotten and unwanted.

            But the people who own them seem to take care of them. There are not many cars which fit all these criteria.

            Similar age GS is another good option. A very sturdy car in either I6 or V8 guise, assuming you’re alright with RWD.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Dal on here has a great deal of knowledge on the Legend/RL (which is the gen 3 Legend). back in the day, UC dealers were wary of RL and Legend because of auto transmission issues (it uses a longitudinal transaxle similar to the Toronado of old) and they average about 16mpg city/21 highway which is terrible for a V6.

            I’m tempted by it myself as a Sunday car but I use my Volvo 244 as one, perhaps when I have more room down the line. The thing is though, don’t overpay for an RL. A Lex LS can get pricey and is sometimes worth it, an RL should be a cheap buy and walk away from sellers who think they are selling an LS.

          • 0 avatar

            I have to go back to the indie garage on Tuesday because my car still has an oil leak, he’s promising to fix. I will ask what he thinks of his RL (his looks like a 2001-2004). I know before he opened his one man shop over a decade ago he was a Jag and Cadillac dealer mechanic, so the RL seems an odd choice.

      • 0 avatar

        3800 powered Pontiacs and Buicks should be on the list I agree. Lots of value in those, if you have patience you will find them for 3k clean and around 125,000 miles.

      • 0 avatar
        gtemnykh

        28 cars, in Indy the Lyft reg has been ’04 for some time now. People already in the system get grandfathered in once the bar is raised, which is pretty kind of them. Not sure about Uber here. Other states are stricter, Indiana gets by with the lowest bar of requirements, set internally by Lyft.

        When you first sign up your “mentor” (ie another somewhat more experienced driver) checks your car out for overall condition, functioning HVAC, no weird smells, etc. Once you’re in the system and you want to change a car (like me), you take your new car to a shop along with a print out with a 19ish point inspection which is substantially more thorough. Brake pad thickness, tire tread depth, check for loose ball joints and tie rod ends.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          Interesting. I’m surprised on the grandfathering, but personally I wouldn’t count on it long into the future. Eventually standards will change.

    • 0 avatar
      anti121hero

      Wrangler

      • 0 avatar
        gtemnykh

        “Wrangler”

        Perhaps the most irrelevant suggestion ever. Where am I supposed to conjure up a 2004+ 4 door wrangler for $3000? if there was such a thing, I would have already bought one (for purposes other than Lyft)!

        Turning things on their head fellas. I have in my possession to test out for the weekend, an 84k mile ’05 GX470. Oh buddy, set that suspension to “comfort” or even “normal” and it’s like you’re on a morphine drip. Makes the ol’ 4Runner feel like a real ox cart!

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          Where did you lay your hands on that?

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            Local Mitsu dealer hooked me up :) returning it tomorrow at some point. In the mean time I have half a tank of premium to burn! It’s generally uncommon for them to do the overnight keeps for used cars, normally that’s for new cars only that they have many of.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Nice score, and almost unheard of for anyone outside the industry.

            How much do they have on it?

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            Well they’re asking $17,700 or something like that. It’s right on the cusp of needing the pricey T-belt and water pump on the 4.7 at 90k, and it’s a Michigan truck so the frame has more surface rust than I’d like. It hasn’t been pampered either, the windshield has some etching from the bozo who didn’t change the blades in time, and the trunk door seal is shot. On the upside it has nice Michelins on it, drives without any weird sounds or vibrations, and the interior is pretty darn clean. I think I’ll walk away from this one owing simply to the chassis rust, but I am inspired to take a closer look at these. Not as versatile and missing the rolldown window of the 05-07 Sequoias that I’ve been scoping, but a nicer interior and the solid sort of build that I expect from something that comes out of the Tahara Land Cruiser factory. Princeton Indiana made Sequoias just don’t feel “right” to me in a way, as much as I would like to support our local guys and gals.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I’m ehhh at that price and with the condition. You enjoy Pursuing Perfection with your used rides, and the dude who owned it prior – didn’t.

          • 0 avatar

            Yeah I like the GX but not that much. I would rather get a Sequoia or a 3 row 4 th gen 4runner and save some cash. For me I would also have a hard time paying that when Grand Cherokee’s etc are so cheap.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            $15K sounds like a generous offer given the issues.

            MY05 Lex GX 470

            06/16/16 Manheim Chicago Regular $6,500 63,137 Avg SILVER 8G A No
            06/14/16 Manheim Central Florida Regular $12,600 66,248 Above GOLD 8G A Yes
            06/21/16 Manheim Arena Illinois Regular $14,100 76,102 Above WHITE 8G A No
            06/29/16 Manheim San Francisco Bay Regular $15,300 76,906 Above WHITE 8G A No
            06/29/16 Manheim Hawaii Regular $8,750 87,546 Avg GOLD 8G Yes
            06/02/16 Manheim Phoenix Regular $13,300 89,431 Above GOLD 8G A Yes
            06/10/16 Manheim Pennsylvania Regular $9,500 106,928 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
            06/01/16 Manheim New Jersey Regular $12,100 111,540 Above BLUE 8G A Yes
            06/22/16 Manheim Atlanta Regular $12,000 111,911 Above BLACK 8G A Yes
            06/29/16 Manheim Milwaukee Regular $9,800 112,238 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
            06/29/16 Manheim Dallas Regular $9,500 112,411 Avg TAN 8G A Yes
            06/08/16 Manheim Minneapolis Regular $10,000 114,668 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
            06/21/16 Manheim Atlanta Regular $9,200 122,932 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
            06/28/16 Manheim Baltimore-Washington Regular $10,800 127,186 Above WHITE 8G A Yes
            06/01/16 Manheim Kansas City Lease $9,600 129,823 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
            06/28/16 Manheim Pensacola Regular $9,400 130,027 Avg WHITE 8G A Yes
            06/02/16 Manheim Atlanta Regular $9,500 135,359 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
            06/03/16 Manheim Fort Lauderdale Regular $10,200 135,967 Avg GOLD 8G A Yes
            06/21/16 Manheim Orlando Regular $8,500 136,364 Avg GREEN 8G A Yes
            06/22/16 Manheim Seattle Regular $7,500 137,295 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
            06/14/16 Manheim Ny Metro Skyline Regular $7,500 140,507 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
            06/21/16 Manheim Ny Metro Skyline Regular $8,000 140,508 Avg SILVER 8G Yes
            06/21/16 Manheim Ny Metro Skyline Regular $7,400 153,554 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
            06/16/16 Manheim Southern California Regular $8,750 159,596 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
            06/08/16 Manheim New Jersey Lease $6,800 160,318 Avg BLUE 8G A Yes
            06/03/16 Manheim Dallas Regular $6,100 166,890 Below GREY 8G A Yes
            06/21/16 Manheim Atlanta Regular $8,400 168,578 Avg GOLD 8G A Yes
            06/08/16 Manheim Milwaukee Regular $8,600 168,799 Avg GREY 8G A Yes
            06/09/16 Manheim Cincinnati Regular $7,500 173,841 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
            06/08/16 Manheim Kansas City Regular $8,000 174,382 Avg WHITE 8G A Yes
            06/07/16 Manheim Ny Metro Skyline Regular $5,900 181,313 Below TAN 8G A Yes
            06/15/16 Manheim Milwaukee Regular $6,900 183,163 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
            06/16/16 Manheim Lafayette Regular $6,400 187,928 Avg GOLD 8G A Yes
            06/22/16 Manheim New Jersey Regular $7,300 189,825 Avg WHITE 8G A Yes
            06/01/16 Manheim Dallas Regular $6,200 192,057 Below BLUE 8G A Yes
            06/22/16 Manheim Statesville Regular $7,200 201,033 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
            06/23/16 Manheim Northstar Minnesota Regular $7,300 206,473 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
            06/17/16 Manheim Baltimore-Washington Regular $6,100 317,521 Below Silver NON N No
            06/01/16 Manheim Milwaukee Regular $4,200 328,609 Below GOLD 8G A Yes

            @Corey

            This from the man lusting after a used LS460…

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            @mopar4wd

            Chances are the Lexus or Toyota truck isn’t going to crush you after you thought it was in park.

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            28, thanks for pulling some numbers :) Good to have the insider scoop when shopping.

            Yeah if we do decide to make an offer, I’m topping out at $15k. One other annoying factor was lack of any remote key fobs, typical auction car in other words.

            These aren’t exactly rare, and for the right one I’m willing to spend a decent amount more than $17k if need be. Higher miles don’t really scare me at all if I can snag a rust free dealer-maintained creampuff.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            No problem, my fee is I get to borrow it for a weekend :D

            I think if you find one for 10K even with slightly higher miles (under 140) it could be attractive.

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            mopar the 4th gen 4Runners are somewhat of a consideration, but the “squashed roof” feeling is even more of an issue than it is in my 3rd gen. Add to that, their prices are every bit as high as a comparable-year GX! I had tested an ’03 V8 Sport (115k miles, asking $9k) in forest green with the unpainted plastic bumpers that they had for the 03-04 “Sport” trucks, clean truck but it had a lot of frame rust. Probably not structural, but to a guy that has spent some time torching off frozen bolts, even a little rust is too much!

            GX has a manually shifted t-case High to Low (fulltime 4wd, locking Torsen center diff), whereas 4g 4Runners are fully solenoid actuated, and they are known to have some issues at higher mileage. V6 4Runners have the MPG advantage of being able to drive in a true-RWD mode which is nice.

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            I’m surprised here in CT I see them at about 4-5k less then the equivalent GX. I looked at a trade in 2004 with thrid row and midlevel equipment (painted bumpers) 100k miles for 9,500 back in Febuary.

        • 0 avatar

          I really like the GX that would be a top pick for me, but I tend to see them as either overpriced or high miles around me. How much the looking for the 05.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    And be sure to play the Official Canadian National Anthem…

    youtube.com/watch?v=iVACv3BNfsU

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    dukeisduke

    Me, I’m waiting for Tim Hortons to come to Texas. Some people were excited when Krispy Kreme started opening stores here, but I think their donuts suck. A couple of their stores in the DFW area closed within a year.

    • 0 avatar
      brettc

      We had them in Maine for several years, then they just closed them all up 2 weeks before last Christmas. Americans don’t seem to like them and prefer Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks for whatever reason.

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        I think KK would have been alright if they had not over-saturated. They opened too many stores when they were a novelty, and became to common. There’s a certain appeal when you have to -try- and drive further to get to something. Once it’s easily accessible, no more fun.

        DD has sh*t donuts.

        • 0 avatar
          bumpy ii

          KK was one of the Southern-based franchises that some hipster marketer periodically latches onto and kicks off a too-much-too-fast expansion boom. Cookout is probably the most recent example; shouldn’t be long until someone complains about the Bible verses on the cups.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Haven’t heard of that one yet. But I’ll need to go to a safe space if my Coke Zero features verses from Leviticus.

          • 0 avatar
            Rick T.

            In 2006 I had some Krispy Kreme’s in the Bullring Shopping Center in Birmingham….England.

            The hot ones are like taking a bite of a baby angel.

        • 0 avatar
          dukeisduke

          I’m not crazy about the glaze that KK uses.

  • avatar
    dukeisduke

    Oh, and Happy Canada Day!

  • avatar
    GS 455

    OK. This will get me booted out of Canada. At first I thought it was just me but then other people started furtively telling me the same thing: Tims coffee isn’t as good as it once was. It’s less rich and more bitter tasting than it used to be and I blame Burger King.

    • 0 avatar
      Maymar

      I don’t know, are there that many people who find Tims palatable unless you get it double-double? It’s awful swill if you drink it black (although I haven’t been drinking coffee long enough to say if it’s gotten worse or not).

    • 0 avatar
      macmcmacmac

      Everything Tim’s is crap. You can’t even find a goddamn donut there after 8pm.

  • avatar

    I’m a man but I can change, if I have to, I guess.

    Remember I’m pulling for you

    Keep your stick on the ice.

  • avatar
    Joss

    Canadian = pay more get less choice. They don’t wave the maple in Quebec and First Nations have red flags of their own.

  • avatar
    bill h.

    This is also Memorial Day in Newfoundland and Labrador. It’s meant to commemorate the battles fought by men from those places in WWI. And we mustn’t forget, today is the centenary of the beginning of the Battle of the Somme. Nearly 20,000 killed in one day among the British forces alone, to include nearly 100% casualties among the Newfoundland Regiment.

  • avatar
    NickS

    Why does everyone have to ruin the celebration by mentioning Buds?

    I became really fond of Creemore Springs and other small craft breweries when I lived in Toronto. The freshness of those brews was phenomenal.

    Can someone up north have a timbit or a butter tart for me? Or some Swiss Chalet …

    Happy Canada Day.

  • avatar
    Loser

    Celebrating by listening to Rush while driving my Canadian built Charger.

  • avatar
    mikey

    Let’s see , I eat Back Bacon , don’t recall ever seeing Canadian Bacon? I like my Timmys Black . Molson Ex ? Old mans Beer . My personal choice ? Coors Light , in cans. On sale at $40.95 ! For a “two four” . With the Mustang safely tucked in the. garage, I may just sit on my porch , and crack a couple . I will wish my country of birth a happy 149 th Birthday …..Cheers

  • avatar
    Big Al from Oz

    Hey to our Canuckistanian bros.

    What’s a good Canadian beer? Remember it will most likely be a larger brand (national).

    I’ll see if we have some in Australia and try it. I don’t recall ever having a Canadian drop yet.

    • 0 avatar
      Maymar

      Looks like your best bet is to try and track down some Dieu du Ciel (because I like my beers impenetrably dark, I like their Peche Mortel) or Unibroue. I mean, we have plenty of solid microbrews, but those two at least look to be available in Australia.

      • 0 avatar
        Big Al from Oz

        Maymar,
        Thanks for that.

        I like dark beers. One of my favourites is called Tooheys Old. It’s a dark ale.

        I’ll buy some when I go out to vote. We are having a Federal Election. I’m hoping the Liberal Party Coalition will take out the Labor Party (Funny spelling for Labour).

        We can bet on elections in Australia at our betting agencies. The odds for a Liberal Party victory have improved markedly.

        One thing great about Australia is you bet on most anything legally. So go to the election, then place a bet on who you voted for!

        Oh, the government get tax dollars out of the betting, they never lose whether left or right.

  • avatar
    rpn453

    With a lot of practice, you’re going to find that speaking Canadian isn’t so difficult. And in fact, our alphabet and yours are fairly similar. So why don’t we begin singing it together? A B C D E F Guy, H I J K L M N O Buddih, Q R S T U Fwiend, W X, Eh and [farts]. These are Canadian ABCs, Susie likes hairy balls, whattaya think of these? Alright, now everyone!

  • avatar
    orenwolf

    Mark!

    I know calling it “Canadian Bacon” is mostly for our US friends, but still – you know as well as I that no such thing exists here.

    OK AMERICANS: Here’s your yearly bacon lesson!

    Firstly, what you call bacon – we call.. bacon! That’s right, we eat the same bacon.
    What you call Canadian Bacon, which is wet-cured port tenderloin.. we don’t really have here. It’s what goes into our ham. It’s ham. Just call it ham.
    We also have wet-cured pork backs, rolled in cornmeal. We call this “Peameal bacon”, even though it’s not in peameal anymore. It’s delicious and much healthier than bacon. It’s the closest thing we have to “Canadian bacon”.

    There you go! When you hear “Canadian bacon”, think either ham, or, a hilarious movie. But don’t think of what Canadians eat as bacon. ;)

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