By on August 31, 2015

11 - 2007 Kia Sedona in junkyard - photo by Murilee Martin

I had the opportunity to visit a Green Bay wrecking yard earlier this month. Most of the inventory was made up of the 10-to-15-year-old GM and Chrysler midsize sedans you’d expect in the Upper Midwest, but I also found this eight-year-old Kia Sedona that had been converted into a Wisconsin Culture Wars Fighting Vehicle (prior to getting wrecked and scrapped before its tenth birthday).
23 - 2007 Kia Sedona in junkyard - photo by Murilee Martin

New-ish minivans tend to hold their value well enough to be worth fixing when crashed, but not when they’ve been covered with ineradicable layers of paint and bumper stickers.

08 - 2007 Kia Sedona in junkyard - photo by Murilee Martin

Wisconsin has had a high-temperature political landscape going back to the 19th century, producing politicians such as Senator Joseph McCarthy and “Fighting Bob” La Follette. Right now, Governor Scott Walker is working to finish the job that the Kohlers and the Taft-Hartley Act started, destroying organized labor and its allies once and for all and bringing about either Morning In America (if you’re a Buick-driving resident of the suburbs) or a fascist theocracy (if you’re an import-driving urban-dweller).

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In most junkyards, I see about ten junkyard vehicles covered in right-wing stickers for every one with a lot of lefty stickers (here in Colorado, vape-juice stickers outnumber both), but fingerpainting a vehicle remains a weapon of the progressive left only.

20 - 2007 Kia Sedona in junkyard - photo by Murilee Martin

Still, I think the revolution would be better served by a Porsche Ultra High-speed Urban Reconnaissance Unit than a Sedona.

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92 Comments on “Junkyard Find: 2007 Kia Sedona, Wisconsin Hippie Fingerpaint-n-Stickers Edition...”


  • avatar
    RideHeight

    Show us your pathology!

    • 0 avatar
      Ostrich67

      All those stickers and not one calling for anyone to be bombed, shot, jailed, or sent back to where they came from.

      Just sayin’.

      • 0 avatar
        RideHeight

        “All those stickers and not one calling for anyone to be bombed, shot, jailed, or sent back to where they came from.”

        Seriously, I can’t stand ostriches like that, either!

        Oops….

      • 0 avatar
        LuciferV8

        “All those stickers and not one calling for anyone to be bombed, shot, jailed, or sent back to where they came from.

        Just sayin’.”

        Does that even matter in this instance?

        The very modus operandi of these folks is to say one thing and do the complete opposite of it.

        I wouldn’t expect anything less from a hippie van than a tidal wave of holier-than-thou signaling and nice sounding platitudes.

        The average toddler also strongly advocates a world of free ice cream, hugs and rainbows, but they aren’t exactly qualified to lead anything other than nap time at the local daycare.

        The sorry state of that van – in terms of its poor maintenance, horrid decoration and untimely demise – ultimately overshadows any message the former owner tried to promote, and speaks volumes on the utter failure of his/her ideology.

        • 0 avatar
          RideHeight

          You don’t smear your property with sh*t unless that’s your true self-image.

        • 0 avatar
          Ostrich67

          One side plasters stickers all over their crappy minivan. The other plants a bomb in front of a federal building. Who’s the bigger problem?

          • 0 avatar
            LuciferV8

            “Who’s the bigger problem?”
            Definitely the bomb droppers:
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Weatherman_actions

        • 0 avatar
          Ostrich67

          As long as we’re comparing data,

          http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?referrer=&_r=0

          “Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, including the recent mass killing in Charleston, S.C., compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.”

          • 0 avatar
            LuciferV8

            Lol, really?
            (Trigger warning for reality)

            1. Leaving out 9/11 is a pretty disingenuous way of skewing the data – kind of like saying a serial killer is “totally peaceful now”, since he hasn’t managed to kill anybody in the years after he was locked away in prison.

            If anything, things have gotten worse, especially in light of both the rise of ISIS and the deadly attacks jihadists have been perpetrating overseas during this time.

            2. Even if we do accept the NYT’s heavily propagandist take on the issue, the jihadists’ rate of attack in the US is proportionally WAYYY higher.

            3. If you really want to compare notes, take a look at the commies with whom hippie types (like the previous owner of this van) readily sympathize and identify with:
            http://reason.com/blog/2013/03/13/communism-killed-94m-in-20th-century

        • 0 avatar
          Ostrich67

          Well they also left off Timothy McVeigh and the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City.

          Now if you wanted to include all terrorist attacks since 1900 I’ll bet the right wing come close to the single attack on 9/11 in numbers killed.

          Here’s a few you may not have heard of.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Hall_disaster
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood,_Tulsa
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Olympic_Park_bombing
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Los_Angeles_International_Airport_shooting

          Oh and I just KNEW you’d cite the supposed bias of the NYT. If you can’t argue the facts, slander the source. The right wing’s biggest victory is convincing their followers that the corporate media, controlled by about 6 mega-conglomorates is “liberal”.

          Go ahead, watch CNN for a whole day, if you can stand it, and see if you learned anything of substance about the world around you. Then watch BBC, CBC, or even Al Jazeera and compare the content.

      • 0 avatar
        MRF 95 T-Bird

        Since this car blog has gone into political bumper stickers I might as well add my thoughts about the more violent and crude sounding ones.

        In recent years the rhetoric on the Right has become far more violent sounding.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliminationism

        http://www.amazon.com/The-Eliminationists-Radicalized-American-Right/dp/0981576982

        Judging from the ones on back of that truck it backs up this theory.

        • 0 avatar
          LuciferV8

          Where is the truck with stickers that show evidence of Eliminationism? If you’re talking about the forth picture down from the top, you have got to be kidding.

          Impeachment is not exactly on par with the Cambodian genocide. Not by a long shot.

        • 0 avatar
          TomHend

          Yeah right

          http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/08/31/armed-black-panthers-to-texas-cops-we-will-start-creeping-up-on-you-in-the-darkness/

          • 0 avatar
            Ostrich67

            Breitbart isn’t exactly fair and balanced.

          • 0 avatar
            CJinSD

            Wait one minute. Didn’t you just say that it was predictable for someone to point out that the NYT is as objective as a helicopter parent? Now you’re trying to indict Breitbart’s integrity, a journal that its leader died on principal for? Is it a coincidence that you’re shamelessly irrational and a liberal? I doubt it.

          • 0 avatar
            dolorean

            Died on principle only to breitbart readers. its not a journal, its hate fueled, fear mongering. is it a coincidence that you are ignorant, arrogant, and feel entitled to belittle anyone you think is liberal or may think diffently than you.

    • 0 avatar
      Xeranar

      It’s really hard to ignore that historically domestic violence in the US has been committed by right-wing ideologues. Unlike in Europe where anarchists and socialists supported armed uprisings the US had to deal with domestic terrorists of a whole other angle: Sovereign citizens, 3 different rises of the KKK, a list of white supremacists too long to bother with. Not to mention roughly 7 decades of open lynchings by small-c conservatives in the Deep South.

      Historically speaking J. Edgar Hoover worked openly to subvert left-wing activists while giving carte blanche to the KKK to enact whatever they felt comfortable with while he went after their propaganda mailings. If the best argument is the weather underground (as I saw posted down this thread) then you’ve already lost the argument.

      But hey, I don’t do fingerpaint on modern cars unless they’re so bad that it mind as well be a fun statement.

      • 0 avatar
        CJinSD

        You don’t suppose that the FBI was worried about commies instead of KKKrackers because commies have been a real threat since the start of the nineteen-teens while the KKK stopped being a real threat when their most dangerous lunatics left for the greener pastures of socialist unions at around the same time, do you? Sadly enough, I believe you don’t.

        • 0 avatar
          Ostrich67

          “Wait one minute. Didn’t you just say that it was predictable for someone to point out that the NYT is as objective as a helicopter parent? Now you’re trying to indict Breitbart’s integrity, a journal…”

          Good catch. I checked out the Breitbart link and some of their other articles and found nothing but paranoia and fever dreams. Makes Fox News look august by comparison.

          “…that its leader died on principal for?”

          What? Andrew Breitbart died of cardiac arrest due to an enlarged heart. Now what in your alternate reality do you think he died from?

          “Is it a coincidence that you’re shamelessly irrational and a liberal? I doubt it.”

          Shamelessly liberal, yes. Irrational, no.

        • 0 avatar
          Xeranar

          Lets check the score here:

          People murdered by Communists in the US: 0

          People murdered by KKK/White Supremacists: 10,000+

          Seems to be the argument settled itself.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            You’re better than this.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur

            http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/253527/berkeley-radicals-want-honor-cop-killing-communist-matthew-vadum

            Several Communists were also killed when the bomb they were building exploded, though fortunately they were the only victims:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwich_Village_townhouse_explosion

            Then of course:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

      • 0 avatar
        Ostrich67

        Don’t forget all the lone gun nuts who go on shooting rampages.

  • avatar
    Syke

    I’ve got a 2008 version, in red, the original paint is still doing well thank you very much, and the only political sticker it will ever see is the “Strange Women Lying in Ponds Distributing Swords 2016” on the rear window as soon as it arrives.

    And yes, that’s my take one the current Presidential race.

  • avatar
    Crabspirits

    Whenever anyone is even a 1/4 as passionate about their beliefs as this, I just want to know how they are wrong.

    • 0 avatar
      RideHeight

      Right or wrong, a vegan diet sure gives you colorful feces!

    • 0 avatar
      gtemnykh

      Waiting for the Crabspirits story on this one!

    • 0 avatar
      jefmad

      My feeling is that the more bumper stickers on the car, the crazier you are. Doesn’t matter what viewpoint is being advocated.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        +1

      • 0 avatar
        Syke

        +2. And I know enough examples personally to consider you very over-optimistic in that opinion. You never want to be in a relationship with someone who’s that bumper sticker crazy, unless you actually like living a 24/7/365 political existence. Including what goes on between the sheets at night.

      • 0 avatar
        Sigivald

        Depends.

        I tend to agree when it’s agenda/viewpoint stickers.

        But if it’s, say, band stickers? I usually think it’s just some kid who likes music and knows their car has no resale value anyway.

        (There’s a Toyota pickup around my neighborhood where the liftgate is 100% covered with stickers. Layers of them.

        But evidently just “whatever stickers the owner liked or was given”; there’s no unifying theme.

        Though there are a lot of beer ones. Unsurprising, in Portland.)

  • avatar
    Kosher Polack

    Her kids probably wrecked it so they wouldn’t have to be seen it in anymore.

    Where do people get all these bumper stickers anyway? I can’t think of a time where I had the opportunity to purchase a bumper sticker, even if just to immediately throw away in view of the person selling it.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

      I once ordered one off eBay. Im not one for stickers or shoving my politics upon others, but at the time, I had a point.

      I bet theyre plentiful (especially the genre seen on this heap) at head shops.

  • avatar
    TW5

    I think what is most alarming is that a minivan insinuates that they spawned successfully.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

      Well, maybe not. Ive owned several Aerostars (I liked) and a Windstar (unfortunately), but I have no children. Theyre useful and often cheap. Thats a good combination even if youre not going back and forth to soccer practice.

    • 0 avatar
      Syke

      Hardly. I think that minivan was used for a parallel usage to what my Sedona is put thru: Tailgating at NASCAR races, camping at racetracks for MotoAmerica Superbike and MotoGP races (not sure if that would be allowed at F1), and packing all our camping gear and kit for historical reenactments.

      The wife and I don’t have kids and never will.

      I would have expected that van had seen at least one Burning Man or smaller like event.

  • avatar
    JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

    Newer minivans might hold their value…but not the Sedona. I see them for like $1500 or under all the time. Ive seen one that said it ran and drove for $800. Very suspicious of their quality when you see a vehicle as new as that competing with a ragged out 80s LTD Crown Vic for the “best-option $800 runner that will (maybe) make it home.” title.

    Some had supposedly minor problems (fuel pump, alternator) that youd expect are worth fixing on a vehicle that new, but the owner gave up and is dumping it for 90s Cavalier money.

    Id expect to get used to seeing these in junkyards if I were you. By the way, did you find the bag of weed? Obviously they had access to the great stuff, stands to reason theyd stash a sack while parinoid and forget about it.

    • 0 avatar
      Syke

      Which is a shame. I bought my Sedona last year with 93k on it. About to turn over 102k and it’s been wonderful. Handled all our moving that the professional company didn’t do (my bicycle shop, all reenactment gear, etc.) and it has done a very good job replacing my Ranger.

      Of course I took the time and money to do a few bits of preventative maintenance right after I bought it (transmission flush, etc.) and the only complaint I’ve got is a TPMS light that’s flaky. Love the van, will definitely be considering another when this one has been run thru.

    • 0 avatar
      SCE to AUX

      You may be thinking of the old Ford Windstar-based Sedonas from 2005 and earlier.

      The 2006-2014 model (Kia design, not a rebadged Ford) doesn’t hold value like a Sienna/Odyssey, but it’s not anything like $1500.

      Our 09 has been a great car (82k miles), and it will likely become my daily driver soon.

  • avatar
    sirwired

    You’d almost think this was somebody parodying some frustrated activist type who smoked out his/her sorrows in far too much weed. Alas, I know there are enough really bizarro-land wack-jobs out there to form a ready supply of things like this disaster-mobile.

    Which end of the political spectrum (or is it both?) that decorates their cars with bullet-hole decals?

  • avatar
    OneAlpha

    See son, Communism didn’t die.

    It just moved to Wisconsin and covered a shitty minivan in bumper stickers.

  • avatar
    FreedMike

    Wisconsin has become Bizarro World, so this van fits right in.

    First this:
    http://www.startribune.com/uw-budget-cut-tuition-freeze-up-for-vote/305434511/

    Now this:
    http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/scott-walker-to-sign-bucks-arena-funding-bill-at-wisconsin-state-fair-b99555622z1-321544131.html

    So…cut $250 million from the University of Wisconsin budget (on top of K-12 cuts), and spend it on building a new arena for a NBA team in Milwaukee. Oh, and yeah…the Bucks don’t come anywhere near filling their 27-year-old arena as it is.

    A state that has this f**cked up set of priorities doesn’t deserve success, folks.

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      The Bradley Center was built a few years too early. If they would have waited, they would have had the template of the Palace of Auburn Hills. The Palace has over 4 times as many suites as the Bradley Center and was completed the same year. It was also built with private money. Based on how outdated it is, the Bradley Center could have been built in the 70s (instead of ’88). Joe Louis arena had almost double the suites and it was built in the late-70s. Herb Kohl never really renovated it either. I still don’t like the public financing of the new arena and the education cuts though.

    • 0 avatar
      TW5

      If tuition is frozen, thus, projected revenue declines, the outlays to the UW system will necessarily be cut. If you don’t want the cuts to happen, you have to keep tuition on its current escalator, which is probably 5%-8% like every other state. Well above inflation. Rising tuition is bad politics and bad policy, and shifting the cost of tuition with scholarship programs is equally dumb.

      Spending state funds on public sports arenas is usually bad policy, but it has nothing to do with the quality of public education. “If we spent the money on education instead” is a specious non-sequitur that led to the current tuition crisis. The money is used to construct new buildings (including palatial admin buildings), sports complexes, and parking garages. We live in the digital age. Educational costs should be plummeting, access should be skyrocketing, and instructor pay should be rising, particularly for people who write the books, not the publisher. Alas, some people see the liberalization of educational markets as bad policy.

      • 0 avatar
        bball40dtw

        Right, they didn’t pull the money out of the education budget in order to pay for the new arena.

        • 0 avatar
          Chicago Dude

          Money is fungible, more or less.

          The real hilarious aspect (at least to me) is that Scott Walker is giving corporate subsidies to one of Hillary Clinton’s major fundraisers.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            He has no choice if he wants to keep the Bucks in Wisconsin. It’s still hilarious though. The NBA basically said that there was going to be a new stadium or the Bucks were moving.

          • 0 avatar
            Advance_92

            Who cares about the Bucks? A cheese hat and a Packers jersey is more than enough for Wisconsin.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Apparently Scott Walker. Kohl sold the Bucks for $550 million, but that has more to do with TV and International revenues than the Bucks themselves.

        • 0 avatar
          FreedMike

          Bball, I didn’t say they cut $250 million to spend it on an arena. If that was the impression I gave, then I’d love to correct the post but I can’t.

          But if things are supposedly so bad budget wise that they HAVE to cut $250 million from the state university budget – an incredibly stupid idea, since state universities are MASSIVE revenue generators, and attract companies because of the large number of highly qualified graduates that are produced – then they have no business spending the same amount on an NBA arena, for goodness’ sake. If the team wants to build it, then let them – they’re a private corporation and they know how to raise funds. Or let the folks in Milwaukee pay for it from their taxes if they want it.

          It’s time for this stupidity to end. Leave the taxpayers out of it as much as possible, especially in a time where many states (like Wisconsin) are having budget difficulties.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            “So…cut $250 million from the University of Wisconsin budget (on top of K-12 cuts), and spend it on building a new arena for a NBA team in Milwaukee”

            You were at least inferring it. We don’t disagree though.

            I don’t like the cash doled out to the billionaire’s arena either. Also, UW doesn’t charge enough for tuition compared to it’s peers. Michigan State University is $4000 more a year for tuition and University of Michigan is up to $8000 more a year. Even the University of Minnesota is more expensive.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            I agree with you but take at look at the UW budget (2014-2015), expenditures for 2013-14:

            -31% of all revenue is Federal funding, with 17% state and 17% gifts and non federal grants.
            -Cost of attendance avg $24,466 but Tuition and Fees only make up 17% of total revenues

            Some things which stand out:
            -Athletics makes up $116.7m or 4.0%.
            -Facilities is $229.5m or 7.9%.
            -Med school is $462.8m or 15.9%.
            -College of Science is $361.4m or 12.4%.
            -Student Financial Aid $180.3 or 6.2%.
            -Debt service $104.7m or 3.6%.

            -The overall university is overbuilt by about 53% (17% gift/17% tuition/13% aux = 47% self funded) and doesn’t seem like it can survive without gov’t handouts of some kind.

            -So facilities plus athletics is 11.9% whereas non-medical *science* is budgeted at 12.4%.

            -I assume these people have refinanced their bonds at the mega low rate, but a 3.6% annual drag on debt seems low but its the kind of thing that sucks life out of other programs. A one time reduction in Athletics and Facilities of $50.2m each could pay off all debt and free up 3.6% of the entire budget.

            -Not an accountant but 6.2% of your budget loaned out as interest eventually is returned with interest so this is an expenditure which gets paid back ever year with profit right?

            My overall view is there need to be some cuts of this budget. If you can’t afford to operate on your own (and these people cannot) then you do not need a $116m dollar athletic program (nor should you be loaning out $180m, did Sallie Mae suddenly have a liquidity issue?). Hell as I pointed out UW can gain 3.6% of their budget by just trimming a few more for one fiscal year and retire their debt (you could even keep the athletics at 4% the following year if you added 3.6% more to the table). You also do not need $229m dollars worth of facilities maintenance. I realize buildings are expensive and the real estate is already built but facilities budgets have to potential to keep growing to the point where it starts to eat up more and more of your budget. All of these schools seem to be overbuilding and its going to be a big problem as time goes on.

            https://www.vc.wisc.edu/documents/Budget-in-Brief.pdf

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            They need to both increase tuition and cut some things out of the budget. Or, they can try an attract more out of state students. That is part of the reason why Michigan State University’s in-state tuition is so high now. It’s basically 80% kids from the state of Michigan for undergrad. U-M is getting close to half out of state undergrad. Out of state tuition is more than double the price.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Tuition is only 17% of all revenue. Even if half of all students (so 8.5% of tuition) were out-of-state and paid an avg of $48K (which is insane), that’s still only an 8.5% increase on the current budget and puts the university at a self funded basis of 55.5%. Ultimately this school is too big for its britches and in the long term needs to either shrink its expenditures or significantly increase its self funded revenue while in the short term make better budgeting decisions.

            If we look at Pitt, a bit over 27% of revenue comes from tuition, seems about 9% from the Commonwealth, and 34.5% in grants which are not differentiated on source ($17.7 million in rental income as well).

            http://www.cfo.pitt.edu/documents/FY%2014%20Annual%20Report.pdf

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Wait…tuition is only 17% of revenue?!?!?! WTF are they doing?

            Yeah, they aren’t running a tight ship. They need to make many cuts. I have no idea how many more students they could add to the system either. It’ll take both, in a competitive environment to make it work. Other Midwestern state school systems are killing them.

            MSU, for example, makes up 70% of their general budget with tuition and fees. 21% comes from the state. They also break even on athletics. That’s living right.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Ultimately UW needs to position their budget to eventually rejoin reality and get off of Uncle Sugar.

          • 0 avatar
            FreedMike

            What you’re not talking about, 28, is that UW Madison is a HUGE research university – one of the top ten in the whole country. They spend literally billions a year in doing research. Research costs more, so what you’re talking about vis a vis federal money makes perfect sense.

            UW is also a whole different world in terms of its student body – you can compare it to a school like Pitt, sure, but the fact is that Pitt has half the enrollment as UW, and since it’s a good school in a major metro area, I’m going to guess a lot of students live in town at home and go there to save money, or live on their own and work their way through. That’s not the way it is at UW, or other colleges in “college town” settings (Ann Arbor, Columbia MO, Champaign, etc). In cases like that, the college becomes a city in and of itself, leading to higher costs.

            Messing with this golden goose is absolutely stupid on Walker’s part. That university is a MASSIVE jobs/tax revenue generator for the whole state. Only a fool would mess with that…which is what Walker is doing.

            I agree costs have to be kept down, but if that’s the case, then maybe we should be talking about cutting down on the Club Med living and recreation facilities you get on a lot of these big campuses. THAT is a waste of money, but research isn’t.

          • 0 avatar
            TW5

            @bball & 28

            Don’t take the tuition numbers too literally. Some states allow each institution to keep a portion of its tuition. Other states require all of the tuition to go into a giant fund, where it is apportioned to the campuses and programs.

            I don’t know enough about the UW system to know how the tuition funds are divided or how they calculate funding from tuition.

            The biggest problem might be that Wisconsin has 26 campuses in the UW system. Maybe this is just a strong-arm tactic to turn the major campuses against the smaller, inefficient campuses.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            That’s fantastic that they are doing so much research, but when gov’t budgets get cut how well can the University cope? Gov’ts in general are overwhelmed and many states are struggling to cope for a number of reasons. Despite all the good the University may do, if I was a someone important at UW, I would start planning for the inevitable cuts in funding from state and federal gov’t. I actually was looking for a Penn State budget but couldn’t find a nice report so I went to Pitt. Pitt has actually been receiving less and less each year from the Commonwealth (which is a local news story every time it happens). Now their budget doesn’t break down grants and public vs private as UW’s but if we include Commonwealth and what seems to be Federal funding its 43.5% where UW’s budget uses 53% of state and federal funding. I suspect in the future Pitt will continue to get less from the Commonwealth and that 43.5% figure will drop, thus Pitt is better equipped to deal with a gov’t funding cut than UW (Pitt’s budget generates revenue in several other ways including rent on commercial property and sales and services – educational).

            If you look at the graph on the UW report, it shows in 1976 Wisconsin funded about 43% of the University and today 17%. I imagine as the University grew more funding was needed and the state slowly began to cut its allocations. I think most people would agree universities in general need to reign in their spending. I hate to keep picking on UW Athletics but the program generated $86,194,000 in revenue but cost $116,700,000 for a net loss of $30,506,000. Methinks there needs to be $30m in less sports at the school just for starters. Maybe there is a greater economic return for the state/society on the $30m loss?

            Also:

            “then maybe we should be talking about cutting down on the Club Med living and recreation facilities you get on a lot of these big campuses.”

            Agreed.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        Good post, TW5.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        TW5, if the state is bad off enough that it has to cut education – and let’s not fool ourselves, that’s what they did, even if they did it backwards – then the real question becomes one of priorities, and spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a basketball arena in that context is just unbelievable.

        Take “education” out of the argument and the funds could be better served in any number of ways…on roads, infrastructure, company relocation incentives…all of which might actually attract investment in the state, which they desperately need.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          Again I agree with you on the arena but take a look at the budget figures and ask yourself are cuts necessary?

          • 0 avatar

            The first place to make cuts in education funding is in administrative bloat. Administrative payrolls have been a major factor in increased tuition. There are way too many assistant deans for fill in the blank nonsense.

            As for public funding of sports arenas, I’m skeptical that the real economic development ever matches the predicted spin off dollars and cents impact on the local community.

      • 0 avatar
        Xeranar

        Ok, as an actual professor who works for an actual real honest to god university let me point this out: The digital age gave us cool projectors and access to better information. It didn’t replace the reality that the best education is still face-to-face in a classroom. In many cases we should be creating real classrooms in more remote areas where people like me can serve through webcams rather than erect tiny Comm colleges where professors rotate through faster than they can hire them. You’re right, part of the rising cost is administration. Currently in the US the majority of spending increases has been to manage the numerous income sources rather than on educators or practical classrooms. Only at Tier 1 universities (i.e. those with D1 sport programs for the part) is a sizable chunk spent on sports and sport complexes but that’s minimal for the average university.

        The current issue is that we’ve shifted state budgets and the burden onto students. The older boomer crowd went to college when the state picked up 70-80% of tuition costs. Now they pick up 20-30% and the increased cost of administration is built around maintaining that 70-80% of other resource streams. It’s a self-propagating system and it’s a shame because a good many PhDs are highly underpaid (and that includes the hard sciences as well). Outside of some elite research institutions I am genuinely paid less than I am worth but I prefer teaching to being a political analyst.

        That being said, Walker’s attempt to undermine UW principles while cutting their budget is just sick. But I suspect the next Democratic president will shoehorn in free or nearly free university for undergrads which will be a worthwhile investment in our country’s future.

        PS: It’s technically not a non-sequitur since they’re both related to the budget. They’re spurious in a technical sense since he planned to cut the budget regardless of what he committed money to.

        • 0 avatar
          bball40dtw

          “But I suspect the next Democratic president will shoehorn in free or nearly free university for undergrads which will be a worthwhile investment in our country’s future.”

          I’m very in favor of this and gay marriage. Am I a liberal democrat now?

          • 0 avatar
            Xeranar

            Maybe? Depends on some other issues. We can always talk about this later?

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Fair.

            Maybe I’ll just have to embrace it. I hate the right wing Taliban, er religious right. I can vote for some Republicans based on fiscal policy but many are on the wrong side of all the social issues. They’ve already lost, but won’t admit it.

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      MRF 95 T-Bird

      Economists of all ideological stripes are unanimously against publicly funded stadiums since there is little economic benefit. One economist even said that you would get more economic impact from dropping cash from a plane onto the neighborhoods around the stadium.

      http://www.fieldofschemes.com

      Years ago ball team owners took pride in building their own stadiums. Sadly no longer.

  • avatar
    -Nate

    Does this qualify as an ” art car ” ?? .

    I never really ‘ got ‘ those and as an Indie VW Shop in a College Town during the glory days I saw lots of them .

    It’s the clear sign the car will be scrapped within two years tops , every time .

    I don’t get it .

    Anyone else remember those ‘ grass cars ‘ ? they had grass _growing_ on every surface , even the vertical ones ~ I never understood how it didn’t fall off an no , it WASN’T Astro Turf .

    -Nate

  • avatar
    ShoogyBee

    Looks like this van was pulled from Willy Street on the isthmus in Madison. Surprised that it was found in a wrecking yard in Green Bay, of all places.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    I could write something for this, but I’m afraid it would end up NSFW.

  • avatar
    LuciferV8

    On the bright side, this was only a Kia Sedona.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    “And that’s why you’ll never ever see a real liberal running this country.”

    Speech over, Ricki drug the edge of her Swisher Sweet around the rim of the empty Arizona Tea can in the holder nearest her. A dark circle of ash and ember put off a little smoke, before she tossed the butt out the open window. The Sedona picked up speed as they headed east on the 161, out of the last town they’d encountered. Checking the rear view, the flick of a thick wrist caused a hemp bracelet to slide down on a hairy arm. Bernie was following closely behind. Ricki gave a casual wave, and Bernie quickly flashed the one working high-beam on the old Legacy Brighton.

    “You know I’ll still come out here and visit you, and you can visit me. It’s why I’m leaving you Vannie. It’s a couple hours each way, max.” Patting the plasticized dash, she smiled over at Jerica, who was nervously twirling a dreadlocked bit of oil-slick, dirty hair between her fingers. Jerica’s glare was icy.

    “And YOU KNOW I can’t get along with that mainstream prick. You couldn’t either. An-“

    Quickly, Ricki cut in “Like this is a choice – like anybody but the fu-king state could fu-k up our lives like this?”

    Secretly while her mind whirred amongst their heated words, she’d think of what Bernie said to her a few nights ago, “Think of how quiet it will be around here, we can have more… people… around. I know you wanted her to choose a life for herself, not too much influence and that. But we’re just SO… restrained with her here, I guess.” Ricki had sighed and turned over after that – she knew Bernie was right, just couldn’t bring herself to say it. But as Bernie pressed those hefty breasts into her back, she’d managed a little nod.

    The somewhat dilapidated farm house came into view, and Ricki snapped out of her daze. “Look, we’re here, so put on a little smiley for your mom, huh? It’s not like he’ll go to PTA meetings or decide to send you to some Catholic school.” She gave a fake shudder and so did Jerica, in unison. Sharing their final laugh for a little while, Ricki climbed out of the Sedona, and walked around the front, waiting for Jerica to meet her halfway. They embraced, Ricki’s stringy hair falling around Jerica’s stout shoulders. “Be good.” She slipped a little grass into her daughter’s ratty Jansport before turning and settling in next to Bernie in the Brighton.

    A couple weeks later, and those dreads were pressed back against the side of Vannie, oily scalp mixing with even more dirt as it brushed against the multicolored metal. She had been all around the car for a good 25 minutes. Looking up at Jessica, she drew in a breath and wiped her mouth “God you’re wet.” Jessica looked down, “You about finished? I can’t think of what else to write.” Jerica buttoned a couple of the buttons on the front of Jessica’s jeans. “For now, but it’s your turn.”

    “Ah sh-t!” Jessica gasped, joint falling quietly to the ground from her left hand, as a figure silhouetted only by the starry country night had come out a side door of Our Savior’s Lutheran where they were parked.

    “Time to gooo!” Jumping in, she fired up the tired Korean’s heart as Jessica hopped in behind, putting extra effort into slamming shut the sliding door on a dried out track. Flooring it in the gravel, number elevens were left behind them, their washable paint markers standing like a phallic testament to their activities there. Making a hard right onto the same road that brought her, the original balded tires found it a bit too much to cope. Five seconds later as Jerica shook her head to clear the cobwebs; she stared straight at the trunk of a maple. Jessica was on the floor in front of the second row, and her head was tilted at a weird angle between the front seats. She was not making any sound. “Oh my God, JESSICA!” she screamed, thinking her dead for sure.

    The figure from before approached, cloaked all in black.

    “Child…”

  • avatar
    Mike C.

    How can you tell he’s a King? (he hasn’t got shit all over him)…

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