By on August 10, 2015

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Finally, BMW got my letter that the folding hardtop in its 4 Series convertible didn’t leave enough room for my tour bag and comically gigantic TaylorMade R15s, so they’re ditching the whole thing, German site Bimmertoday is reporting (via Road and Track and Automobile).

The convertible hard top can weigh roughly 500 pounds, Automobile reports. Cutting back to a soft top could shed some of that weight and spare space in the the trunk.

The German report also says that BMW’s Z4, co-developed with Toyota, will also have a fabric top instead of a folding roof.

The new 4 Series should arrive around 2021, after the all-new 3 Series hits the streets in 2019.

Already, the BMW 2 Series and 6 Series have soft-top roofs.

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36 Comments on “Golf Clubs Win, New BMW 4 Series May Be Soft-top Only...”


  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    You carry a tour bag? Did you suddenly turn 56 overnight?

  • avatar
    Tosh

    The 4-door is the 3, and the 2 door is the 4, right?

    • 0 avatar

      With the exception of the 4-Series Gran Coupe (which is a four-door coupe), yes. This specifically refers to the two-door cabriolet variant of the 4-Series. BMW hasn’t sank so far that it’s willing to create factory-sanctioned, ghetto-tastic landau roofs on a four-door just yet.

    • 0 avatar
      Tosh

      So it being badged 428i could be EITHER a convertible OR a coupe? What happened to them saying 428iC?

  • avatar

    Good. I happen to think that soft-top cabriolets look far more dignified, with the exception of the 2nd-gen Lexus SC.

  • avatar
    dal20402

    Mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, WEIGHT. On the other hand, retractable hardtops are far more comfortable when up, give better visibility, and make vandalism less likely. Most of them look awkward but the E93 3-series and F33 4-series are very pretty exceptions.

    • 0 avatar
      BuzzDog

      Agree with you 100%.

      After years of wanting one, I bought a relatively inexpensive soft-top convertible as a second vehicle two years ago, mostly to make sure I’d actually drive it with the top down. To improve security and visibility I’ve considered replacing it with a hardtop in the next few years, so I’d hate to see these become a dying breed.

    • 0 avatar
      ellomdian

      Fwah?

      BMW’s soft-tops are fine when it comes to noise and temperature, they’re the ones who figured out that you should just put the rear glass in a partition that isn’t part of the moving top, and if you’re worried about Vandalism, you probably shouldn’t part your soft-top in the bad part of town with valuables in sight.

      Seriously, go take a 6-series cab out, and tell me you see any real difference between it and the SL in terms of NVH and visibility. Even MB is going to soft tops with the next SL – folding hard tops were a weird solution to a materials design problem.

  • avatar
    sofast1

    Ah, the woes of the 1%. Cheese with your whine,sir? Maybe you could write for DuPont Registry and leave more space for us CAR enthusiasts? You know,us guys that work for a living so we can drive fun cars? If fitting golf clubs in your trunk is a priority that you need to write about,there’s a golf web site ………

    • 0 avatar
      VenomV12

      Only the 1% play golf? Umm okay.

      So people in the 1%, 5%, 1% of the 1% don’t work for a living or work hard or aren’t car enthusiasts? Umm okay.

      Yep, nobody cares if their car, probably their second largest investment other than their house fits their needs, no, not at all…

      • 0 avatar
        sofast1

        A lot of folks play golf. But,not many complain that their $60k BMW won’t hold their clubs in the trunk. Some of us work hard just to be able to play golf. Trunk capacity would not be high on the priority list on an enthusiast, put the clubs on the back seat. There’s a lot of reasons people buy BMWs, some for the driving, some for the posing. Pretty clear which ones bitch about the clubs not fitting in the trunk.

        • 0 avatar
          S2k Chris

          Oh give me a break. I love cars and I love sports cars, but I will not buy one that can’t fit my sticks. There are just too many good options that CAN to spend my money on one that can’t. I can fit two sets in my S2000 trunk, and do pretty regularly.

          • 0 avatar
            dolorean

            Filing…under….First World Problems.

          • 0 avatar
            sofast1

            “I can fit two sets in my S2000 trunk, and do pretty regularly.”

            +1. Now that’s the words of a car enthusiast who loves to play golf. I’m just a little tired of hearing the pompous rich folks,with their 6,7 or 8 figure incomes,complain about problems most of us wish we had. “Oh dear, my golf clubs won’t fit in my BMW”,then buy a different car and shut up! It’s getting more obvious every day which side of the income gap folks are on.

          • 0 avatar
            S2k Chris

            “I’m just a little tired of hearing the pompous rich folks,with their 6,7 or 8 figure incomes,complain about problems most of us wish we had. “Oh dear, my golf clubs won’t fit in my BMW”,then buy a different car and shut up!”

            Eh, that wasn’t exactly the point I was making. My point was just that it is entirely rational for a car enthusiast to want their car to accommodate cargo that they may want to carry, especially when that cargo is standard in size and very commonly carried amongst the demographic interested in the car. Clearly BMW has noticed that the issue has negatively impacted their sales, and are taking steps to correct that. I don’t think that anyone has complained it’s a “problem” but don’t you think it may be a problem for BMW if the affluent people that can afford its cars don’t want to buy them because their cars don’t accommodate their hobby?

  • avatar
    VenomV12

    Convertibles should be soft-tops, that’s the proper way.

    • 0 avatar
      stuki

      T least convertibles with any pretensions of sportiness. It’s hard enough trying to pull off ‘ultimate driving machine” saddled with solid rubber, 300 pounds a piece tires. Having to do so while, in addition, carrying a Fiat 500 on the roof rack, is too much even for the Bavarians.

  • avatar
    Kato

    Bout time they figured it out. I for one want to tour in my convertible, which means having a bit of luggage space, which means soft top. The current retractable hardtop Z4 and SLK have such pitiably small boots when the top is retracted that they are useless as tourers. The weight and hopefully cost reduction associated with going back to a soft top is an added bonus.

  • avatar
    beemerfan

    I beg to differ with most comments.
    I have had the soft-top E46 for 5 years, and I just purchased a hard-top E93. Both are lovely cars.
    Granted the trunk of the E93 is a tad smaller than the E46, but, I still found a way to fit my two daughters, wife, in the front, and a suitcase in the trunk for a week long road-trip.
    And the E93 hard-top is just gorgeous.
    While there is some extra weight, the extra protection against the elements, plus the soft top needed to be stored under a roof when snowing, plus the looks tilt strongly the scale towards the hard-top.
    The new soft-top would have to be shaped really nicely and a step above the old E46 to win me over

  • avatar
    Fordson

    Having a very tough time believing that a folding hard top weighs 500 lbs. Maybe they’re adding the weight of chassis stiffening that an open car needs sometimes, but…not 500 just for the folding top ass’y.


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