Ssangyong Planning Jeep Wrangler Rival For US Market Debut

What's more concerning is that people are willing to defend it, most of them only having experience denigrating off-road vehicles, rather than actually using off-road vehicles. "But here comes something that isn't American, so it must be better, because America sucks."

@Hummer I would rather listen to arguments of people who aren't fixated on V8s in 2015.

@Hummer Exactly. Probably the same people who hate American full size trucks, but somehow forget about the Titan and Tundra. Oh, sure theyre just as big, guzzle more fuel, are less capable and durable, and are purchased almost exclusively by people who dont need a truck but just "want" one, but thats all okay because they were not built by Ford, GM or Chrysler. The Hyundai crossover truck article was a clear example. The very same people who complain about people commuting in trucks and buying them without a need pr purpose were running around saying how wonderful this new pretend truck is going to be. Some going so far as eluding to Hyundai showing up American truck makers, as if that little open-cargo station wagon is going to be so capable. So, its fine to buy a pickup for hauling lots and lots of air, just so long as it isnt from an American manufacturer. In the case with this pretend off roader, its okay to buy it for image, but not a Wrangler (or an American truck) for the same reason. Double standard, much? And, the "poser" comments are just as stupid. Just because a Wrangler is clean and shiney on Monday doesnt mean it wasnt buried up to its windows in mud on Saturday. But, you know, if you see someone driving a Wrangler or a 4wd pickup on dry pavement, clearly thats ALL they do with it and you can tell just by looking at them. Just like every pickup seen in rush hour traffic is owned by a man with a tiny penis. No matter if they use that truck for work, thats not at all important. Everyone knows that if you have a large member, you must drive a Prius. No body well endowed would like a Raptor or a Power Wagon, right? I know I always check the size of mine before I allow myself to like a truck.

@Pete Zaitcev I've paid my dues, I shouldn't have to accept anything less than a V8 in 2015.

@JohnTaurus Why do the poser comments only come up on trucks and 4x4s? How many Hellcats are going to see a drag strip and how many Miatas are tracked. I know some will be, but as a percentage I bet it is no better than jeeps that see the dirt. My truck is empty most of the time but when it isn't I am really glad I have a truck, especially when the bed is slap full of stinky camp gear. I see a lot of Subaru's in metro Atlanta. If they ever see snow they still aren't going anywhere because Atlanta and Snow. Are they posers too? Not on these forums...they are enlightened because Wagon! I am currently sans 4x4 but I miss it. My FJ80 was typically very clean because...shocker...on the way back home from the trail I typically washed it. I saw many jeeps of all generations including new ones out in the dirt.

@JohnTaurus God bless the import trucks...its gotta be hard for Nissan to build my 8/10ths sized Frontier but still give me that full sized truck experience every time I fill up with gas.

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