By on June 25, 2015


Have you ever seen a bus run a red light and endanger your fellow pedestrians? Did you think that it might be a good idea to record that action on your smartphone so you could alert the bus company?

Did you ever consider that the bus driver would stop the bus, get out, and choke you?

From the ever-more-vibrant-and-culturally-enriched United Kingdom comes the above video, described in the accompanying article as such:

One witness told the Standard: “The bus driver had apparently run a red light and the pedestrian filmed it on her phone.

“The next moment the bus driver pulled up and left the bus in the middle of the road and stopped the traffic.

“She assaulted the pedestrian, grabbed her and dragged her onto the pavement. The driver was stood over her like Muhammad Ali and started arguing with the people who came to help.”

In a statement on Friday the Metropolitan police said it was investigating an allegation of assault.

“A 27-year-old woman reported to police that she had been assaulted by the driver of a tour bus. No arrests were made and enquires continue.”

Well, we wouldn’t want the rights of the bus driver to step out and whip some nosy college girl’s ass to be infringed on, y’know? One has to wonder exactly what kind of proof the Metropolitan Police would need to arrest someone. Would they have arrested Jack Ruby back in the day or would they have just continued the ol’ enquiries? Here in the Land Of Trans Fats And Beauty Pageants For Five Year Olds we’re always hearing about how London is under the proverbial Electric Eye…

…do we have time for a Judas Priest video here? We do? Great!

…and back to the topic at hand. In fact, there is one camera in the UK for every eleven subjects but the city of London is not any safer despite the intrusion of so-called public privacy. I wonder why that is? Is it because when you give the cops a video of a bus driver experiencing a psychotic episode, they just continue the enquiries? I mean, here in America, we usually reserve the privilege of avoiding prosecution for a public beating to, um, the police, and rich people, and celebrities. What’s the world coming to when a bus driver can get away with the same kind of stuff that Hope Solo does?

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66 Comments on “If You See Something, Say Some… No, Wait, It Would Be Best To Keep Quiet...”


  • avatar
    MrGrieves

    Breakin’ the law, breakin’ the law…

    The Priest video made my day. Much obliged.

  • avatar

    They wanna talk about “mental illness” in society.
    Thing is, aside from that, a lot of people are just ANGRY.

  • avatar
    canddmeyer

    We got the same problem with the entitled ones in the USA.

  • avatar
    PrincipalDan

    Keep Calm and Choke a B*&ch.

  • avatar
    Driver8

    “I can’t breathe!”

    I guess these aren’t the same Brits that colonized most of the world.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    I wonder if anyone would have helped/intervened that way in The America. I think here in Cincinnati it would depend on:

    A) Race of the attacker and victim
    B) Part of town

    Ain’t no buses up in the suburbs anyway, but there could be an angry taxi event.

  • avatar
    PeriSoft

    Man, this doesn’t even happen in Grand Theft Auto.

    Also, from the article, the tour company says that it, “…advertises its 10-hour “Total London” experience for £99 a person” … looks like the victim got it for free!

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Those bus driver NPCs never fight back! I think it’s because the animation for enter and exit the bus is too long, etc.

      • 0 avatar
        JimC2

        They do if you use the riot mode cheat code. (At least they did it GTAVC.)

        • 0 avatar
          CoreyDL

          You sure you don’t mean SA? SA was the one where the city turned to riots toward the end of the story line, for quite a while.

          I remember that, if you drove anywhere non-fancy, someone would yank you out of your car and beat you down immediately.

      • 0 avatar
        PeriSoft

        “Those bus driver NPCs never fight back! I think it’s because the animation for enter and exit the bus is too long, etc.”

        I had a guy yank me out of that giant dump truck that you have to jump onto a ladder to get into, though, so it’s not only the animation length. Winded me out for a couple seconds when I landed, too.

        I was describing a GTA V session to my wife the other week, and she replied mildly, “You’re much more of a badass in that game than you are in real life…”

        • 0 avatar
          CoreyDL

          Ha, sounds like you should have got moving faster then, make him fall off.

          So easy and fun to be badass in that game. Such weapons and craziness. Unfortunately online it’s easy to be a huge pr-ck as well.

  • avatar
    CJinSD

    Thank you for the Hope Solo reference.

  • avatar
    CJinSD

    You can tell that women haven’t achieved equality in the UK because the giant dork with the backpack stood and watched instead of knocking the bus driver out.

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      Women aren’t equal because a man wouldn’t punch a woman attacking a woman?

      • 0 avatar
        Jack Baruth

        If it was a man attacking a woman, he’d presumably have intervened.

        I think he chose to not intervene forcibly because of the double privileged status of the driver.

        • 0 avatar

          That’s what I was thinking, Jack. To some, “double privileged” means “above any law”.

          • 0 avatar
            sgeffe

            Well, at least as long as their..ahem..EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATION is representing them in court, viz. my post up this thread.

        • 0 avatar
          dal20402

          Damn, Jack, I really like your writing, but the level of “angry white guy” coming from you has really increased lately, to the point where it’s hard to take.

        • 0 avatar
          boomstick

          @ Jack Baruth:”the double privileged status of the driver.”

          Whiskey tango foxtrot.

        • 0 avatar
          VolandoBajo

          Totally concur with your analysis, Jack.

          And my theory as to why the police continue enquiries instead of making an arrest, is that if they come down clearly on the side of the citizen-photographer, the next one might be encouraged to make an “unauthorized” video of the police. Hence, by straddling the fence and not strongly defending the photographer, they exert a chilling effect on the next one being a video of one of them.

          Or so I say.

      • 0 avatar
        APaGttH

        Any man knows, you never, ever, EVER get between two women fighting, even if one of the women appears to be just slaying the other. Quickest way to suddenly have two women kicking your butt – before they return to beating each other.

        The bus driver is dead wrong and bat $h1t crazy. Alas, this is the world we live in – multiple witnesses, video, clear victim, and clearly a road rage incident.

        We need to investigate, and will release our findings after a thorough investigation. If they really gave a crap, they could have put the woman in a jail cell on some charge while investigating.

  • avatar
    TW5

    Can’t lose with this video. Fatalistic public-sector union worker vs. nanny-state tattletale. One of them is going to lose, which means the rest of us win.

  • avatar
    cartunez

    The bus driver was wrong and should be charged with assault et al. No jail time needed just get her the mental attention should obviously needs and have her pay restitution to the victim. Had this been America someone would have shot the bus driver and I can’t say I would disagree with it.

    • 0 avatar

      If this had been America and someone shot the “unarmed” bus driver… No thanks, I don’t want any more rioting. Never mind that a beating from someone who outweighs you by 80+ lbs could easily be fatal.

    • 0 avatar
      Pch101

      In America, the bus driver would have done a drive-by. On the plus side, she would not have blocked traffic in the process.

  • avatar
    Silent Ricochet

    That bus driver’s an idiot for doing what she did and deserves to be punished. It’s astounding that the police have yet to take action. I think that’s pretty clear.

    However, did it not bother anyone else that the lady being choked started screaming over and over again and then flopped down on the ground pretending she passed out? Like, we get it. People are already intervening, stop wailing for attention and acting like it’s worse than it actually is. Reminds me of plenty of situations where people are arrested or simply detained in America so they start screaming at the top of their lungs to attract the smartphones from bystanders.

    • 0 avatar
      VolandoBajo

      I think when someone who clearly outweighs you and is batsh*t crazy has you in a chokehold, you don’t need to “fake” being concerned about wanting to be let go.

      It’s just a shame the photographer hadn’t been studying a Japanese martial art such as aikido for about a decade, and would have broken the chokehold and put the driver in an arm bar or similar until the police arrived to start filling out reports.

      I seriously doubt the photographer tried to set up an excuse to claim being assaulted, as I don’t think anyone in their right mind would have expected the driver to have gone so “over the top” as to stop the bus, jump out, and begin choking someone in broad daylight.

      Let someone start choking you out of the blue, and let’s see what how much you maintain your composure so as not to look like you you are “pretending”.

      Sorry, but I have to conclude this with “Idiot!”, as in Dylan’s “Idiot Wind”.

  • avatar
    cpthaddock

    Now, imagine this with a well armed populace …

    • 0 avatar
      dal20402

      So instead of a few bruises you’d have bullets flying around a very busy central-city street? Sounds dandy.

    • 0 avatar
      shaker

      People, for the most part, are too stupid and too fearful to own guns. Few of us have the calm, steely demeanor of an Arnold Schwarzenegger, the righteous certainty of Charlton Heston, of the moral high ground of Clint Eastwood, all of whom we aspire to be when we imagine ourselves “saving the day” with a firearm.

      • 0 avatar
        PeriSoft

        “People, for the most part, are too stupid and too fearful to own guns.”

        It’s the ones who aren’t fearful yet may or may not be stupid that you have to worry about…

  • avatar
    Mullholland

    Thanks for this Jack. This is precisely why I avoid mass transit and fossilized faux SM/hair bands. Looks like a Raiders pre-game show.

  • avatar

    That is some U.S.A. levels of road rage.

  • avatar
    brianyates

    I’m surprised given the amount of CCTV cameras that proliferate in and around London and England that there wasn’t a camera in place at the particular traffic light. Fortunately the English for the most part don’t carry guns, it could have lead to a different conclusion.

  • avatar
    doublechili

    With autonomous cars this never would have happened, because the bus passengers would have been in individual “tour pods” instead. Of course, in that case the throttled lady probably would have been accidentally run over by a pod, so we’d still have a video to watch….

    • 0 avatar
      Pch101

      If autonomous vehicles work as is hoped, then the bus driver would not have run the light.

      The idea behind autonomous vehicles is that they don’t do the dumb things that humans do. They stay sober and they avoid the banzai passing maneuvers, tailgating, speeding, and red light running that humans enjoy so much.

      • 0 avatar
        doublechili

        Just a little joke – not meaning to derail the thread. And what you say about safety will be true, eventually. In the beginning there will be some “events”. Then they’ll work the bugs out. But “eventually” there will be no need for buses – it’ll just be pods, pods, pods.

        • 0 avatar
          MK

          Don’t apologize, just like airbus flight control laws there’ll be some truly spectacular failures (and plenty of money doled out along the way) while the “bugs” are being worked out.

          That said, the video had a bit too much standing around and not enough of the old ultraviolence.

          • 0 avatar
            doublechili

            Re: the “spectacular failures”, I’m sure they will be couched as collateral damage for the cause of a safer and greener transportation future. The monument on the Mall in DC can be a huge granite transportation pod, with arms and legs sticking out from underneath it, and the inscription, “Don’t Tread On Me… Unless It’s For a Higher Common Good”.

            :)

          • 0 avatar
            VolandoBajo

            “…not enough of the old ultraviolence.”

            Where is Malcolm MacDowell when you need him?

        • 0 avatar
          PeriSoft

          “…it’ll just be pods, pods, pods.”

          *rushes to register thetruthaboutpods.com*

          • 0 avatar
            doublechili

            Exactly. But what would the articles and discussions be about? Seat coverings? Acoustic isolation quality? Sound systems? Electronic connectivity? What is the most soothing interior color for a long trip? It would basically be Architectural Digest/Home Theater Mag/Wired with nary a mention of “car stuff”.

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            Ride. Some people will want the boaty floaty rolly old-school Cadillac ride. Others will want their autonomous cars to feel more buttoned-down and less wallowy even if it’s a bit bumpier.

          • 0 avatar
            VolandoBajo

            At thetruthaboutpods.com there would be a Doug DeMuro article about “what pod would you immediately get out of if you found that it was the next one available.”

            Among others…

  • avatar
    kmoney

    Great thinking on the part of the bus driver — turn a video that, if the person even bothered to submit it to your employer, no one would really care about into full blow assault charges and basically guaranteed dismissal. I’m thinking there must have been some trolling or words exchanged with the woman behind the camera before this started.

    • 0 avatar
      MK

      Meh, the poor downtrodden and oppressed prole bus driver probably just had enough of Ms helpy-helperton’s do-gooder with a video camera attitude and reverted to the traditions and mores of her class.

      Then ask the good folk of London get to stand around and look surprised.

  • avatar
    bearuk

    I’ve noticed a difference between the UK and USA. In the UK, you go to a government office, or the post office, or any number of other businesses and you’ll see signs saying ‘verbal or physical abuse of our staff will not be tolerated’.

    In the USA it’s words to the effect of any abuse of patrons of this establishment will not be tolerated.

    In the USA customer service isn’t what it was, but people are still cheerful, polite, helpful and generally speaking you leave happier than when you arrived. In England it’s obvious many people working with customers should never ever have been allowed to! Borderline rudeness, bitterness and apathy seem to be the usual traits.

    One of the things I’ve noticed is that in the years I’ve lived in California and travelled around the USA, banks and post offices are the best example. Light open spaces with helpful staff. In England, everyone is behind an inch of bulletproof glass and it’s like talking to a convicted killer (from what I’ve seen on tv shows anyway!).

    I was ok about going back to England after my 6 1/2 years in Palm Springs until I read this. Now I’m dreading the sullen disrespect I’m going to come across everywhere I go.

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