By on May 6, 2015

2014 Buick Regal GS AWD Exterior-003

In a hurry to trade your new Buick Regal for something else? You’re not alone, as the sedan joins a handful of models traded-in after a year of ownership.

Per a report by iSeeCars.com, 2.7 percent of vehicles bought new end up on the used lot after being on the road for one year, Forbes reports, with trade-in rates as high as 11 percent for a specific model.

The models brought back to the sales lot run the gamut, from $18,000 subcompacts to $45,000 luxury sedans. The Regal tops the list with 10.7 percent of owners exchanging their keys after a year, the Chevrolet Sonic takes second with 8.9 percent, and the BMW X1 at a close third with 7.8 percent. The Dodge Charger, Mercedes-Benz C-Class sedan, Chevrolet Cruze and Nissan Frontier also make the list.

As for why the sudden change of heart, quality or the perception of quality played a key role; the aforementioned models were rated poorly by owners surveyed in J.D. Power’s 2014 U.S. Initial Quality Survey. ISeeCars.com CEO Phong Ly says those issues usually involve technology, such as connected-vehicle systems, voice command, and Bluetooth connection, and aren’t so much “problems” as they are difficulties with said technologies.

Those looking for a deal on those models will likely be happy with what they find on the used lot, though. The 2014 Regal with average mileage comes with a price tag 32.2 percent less than new, while the C-Class and Charger lost 31.0 percent and 28.4 percent in new-car value after a year, respectively.

[Photo credit: Alex L. Dykes/The Truth About Cars]

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142 Comments on “Buick Regal Tops Among Those Traded-In After One Year Of Ownership...”


  • avatar
    DeadWeight

    And it’s one of my favorite “GM” vehicles, especially now that the (admittedly piston eating) 2.0T is standard (because it’s actually more farfignewton), and a vehicle I’d rather drive than any Cadillac (damning with faint praise).

    But it’s still a GM Product, so No Surprise.

    I might consider buying a one year old one with an extended warranty thrown in for around $12,000 to $14,000 if I were actually in the market (but I’m not).

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      The Regal needs a V6. $30-40k and no V6 option? Just get a LaCrosse. Or save lotsa money and get a Verano.

      • 0 avatar

        Have you learned nothing from my posts?

        Don’t ask for MORE POWAH because a bunch of self-proclaimed “car enthusiasts” will claim that it has “adequate power” and that all it needs is a manual and “less mass”.

        Let me build that Regal the way it should-have been built and I’ll make people LINE UP to get one. They wouldn’t dream of getting rid of it after one year.

        • 0 avatar
          kvndoom

          Yup, there’s definitely not a car with a HEMI in the top 5. Definitely not.

        • 0 avatar
          Sigivald

          I’m thinking 259/295 specs for the 2014 2.0 turbo are why there’s no V6.

          Edmunds doesn’t say “adequate power”, it says “Energetic acceleration with turbocharged engine”.

          (It does pan the eAssist, but that’s not what anyone who cares about speed would ever get in the first place.

          And $30-40K and no V6 option?

          Yeah.

          Exactly like the A4.)

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            This isn’t prestige Euro. It’s middle+ American. There needs to be more on offer for the same money. I don’t care that it’s actually an Opel, when it’s wearing a Buick badge.

        • 0 avatar
          Mackie

          “Let me build that Regal the way it should-have been built and I’ll make people LINE UP to get one.”

          Best. Comment. Ever.

      • 0 avatar

        Yup. This. If not for power but refinement. A V6 would make it sound better at least.

        • 0 avatar
          wmba

          I read this “report” several days ago, after seeing the Regal review on autos.ca.

          If one reads it carefully, the owners hated the higgledy-piggledy dash design, with a dozen elements all of a different shade of black, and the lousy seats. No mention of V6, just a rotten interior.

  • avatar

    Not surprised.

    • 0 avatar
      Scoutdude

      Not surprised that the Charger is #5 on that list? Neither am I.

      • 0 avatar
        tuffjuff

        Loooooooooooooooooool

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        I wouldn’t do a Charger because even the refreshed interior is fugly (cheap dash).

        The Challenger w/the 480 HP, though…there are deals to be had, it sounds fantastic, the transmission shifts with torquey authoritay!, the dash is much better, and I never thought I was a retrofool muscle car fan, but the Challenger in the right color and right wheels – works.

        • 0 avatar
          dal20402

          Challenger dash is better than the Charger? After the 2015 refresh, they’re nearly the same part. The console is different but the dash is very close to the same.

    • 0 avatar
      John R

      After two winters with mine I suspect that some of those who traded in a Charger after one year may have not be prepared for that experience. I knew what I was getting into.

      Sometimes I forget how informed the automotive conoscenti are relative to the masses. Once I told a co-worker I wasn’t looking forward to driving my car in the winter and I told him my car was RWD. He replied, “They still make those?!?!?”

  • avatar
    bumpy ii

    How many are fleet or program cars? Ascribing motivations to private buyers is risky without knowing that.

  • avatar
    Sjalabais

    More than one in ten owners is a damning vote with their keys! Holy smokes.

    So…is it a viable business idea to fill all those empty containers going back to China with cheap meh-Buicks?

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    So we got:

    Regal – Heavy, underpowered, expensive, cramped
    Sonic – Awful
    X1 – Too expensive, small, old, hideous
    Charger – Repossession
    C-Class – Repossession
    Cruze – ? Don’t like MPGs?
    Frontier – Expensive, thirsty, ancient, uncomfortable

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      Do X1s come in any color besides orange? That’s all I’ve ever seen on the road.

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        I only see black and silver ones, mostly black. And navy one time. But I’ve never seen an orange (the X1 is really not common around here)!

        I see the X3 in lots of different colors. I hate that one almost as much as the X1.

    • 0 avatar
      onyxtape

      My neighbor got an X1. It was in the shop for 3 out of the 4 months that he owned it. Changing out a headlight needed a week-long wait for parts, which is strange considering the number of BMWs we have running around here.

      He traded it in for an Audi S3. But it mostly sits idle anyways since he works like 100 hours a week.

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        I’m sure the S3 is an improvement in all ways, but I am of the opinion that no Audis smaller than a 4 should have a real S variant. It’s not right.

        • 0 avatar
          davefromcalgary

          Why?

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            It bothers me because it’s too small, and not really performance in nature as a compact. The A4 is already small enough to wear such a badge! But it has had one for ages, so that’s okay.

            If you want something tiny and sporty get a VW GTI.

            S5/6/7/8, those are okay.

        • 0 avatar
          derekson

          The new S3 is basically the exact same size as the original B5 S4.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            You beat me too it.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I now approve of the S3. Wouldn’t buy one, but I approve.

          • 0 avatar

            On the outside, maybe. It FEELS smaller on the inside.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            I love the B5 S4. However, according to PrincipalDan 2:7, “A V6 with litres less than three will only bring pain to thee.”

          • 0 avatar
            gtemnykh

            @bball, yes the biturbo 2.7 has quite a reputation, and the turbos are really crammed in the bay which do them no favors cooling wise. In regards to the sub 3 liter rule, the old 2.8 12 valve motor is a trooper, and makes for a fun, nice sounding little car in a 5spd a4 quattro. I agree that the a3 sedan harkens back to those original a4s, but the missing link is manual availability.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            There are excepetions to the rule. I had a good experience with a 2.9L Cologne in a Ranger.

            I would break the rule if Ford threw the 2.7TT in the Fusion with the Focus RS’s AWD system. It would be worth 28 branding me a heratic and excommunicating me from the Church of the 3800. A Fusion ST/RS would be temptation I could not resist.

          • 0 avatar
            dal20402

            Maybe it was a bad example (it certainly had a lot of miles) but I drove a friend’s family’s 2.8 B5 A4, and “fun” wasn’t the word that came to mind. “If the six is this slow then how slow can the 1.8T possibly be” was more like it.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            Well at least the 2.8L wouldn’t drown in sludge.

          • 0 avatar
            bumpy ii

            “I love the B5 S4. However, according to PrincipalDan 2:7, “A V6 with litres less than three will only bring pain to thee.”

            Which is why you should skip ahead to the B7 RS4. A whole new level of pain, but you do get a flat-plane V8 out of it.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            The 2.8 isn’t bad. I had one.

            It isn’t fast because that era of Audi is so heavy, and you’ll average 22mpg maybe.

            But that’s okay. It’s the CEL’s and vaccum trouble that will kill ya.

      • 0 avatar
        Sigivald

        … why would they need “parts” to replace a headlight?

        Or was this the HID one? I suppose they *might* not stock those.

        • 0 avatar
          CRConrad

          That’s not the WTF. The WTF is, why didn’t the owner have them order the light and then drove around with just one until they called him that it had arrived?

    • 0 avatar
      MrGreenMan

      Two people who work for me tried the Cruze; one unloaded it for a Dodge Dart and the other is trying to unload it. The first complained about mechanical problems – a classic GM situation; they can’t figure out why it’s doing what it does, but they can confirm that the engine isn’t revving right, the transmission isn’t doing the right thing, and the tires wore out in weird ways. The second had an LT, but apparently it’s the base LT, and over time he just can’t stand how cheap it feels.

    • 0 avatar
      LectroByte

      > Charger – Repossession

      Perhaps. I know at least two people who were loyal Mopar fans who didn’t keep their Chargers too long, one went for a 300, one went towards a full size truck from a different brand. Both had hemi’s and various problems that seemed to get the crap treatment from the dealer. No doubt there are a lot of V6 dub editions that are repo’d, though.

  • avatar
    SaulTigh

    How much do you have to hate a vehicle to trade it in just one year later? I’d imagine that most brand new vehicles are not purchased outright for cash, so you’re talking a vehicle that has a loan attached and has seriously depreciated in those 365 days. Talk about signing up to eat a $hit sandwich. Your salesman probably just messed his pants thinking about the deal he’s going to make you eat, with back end points and sales bonuses all around, yee haw!

    Reminds me of my neighbor (in a moderately decent apartment complex no less) back in ’07 when gas got to it’s peak. He traded a Hummer H2 for a V6 powered Dodge Charger, then as soon as gas started falling, he traded that for a Hummer H3. All in the course of a little over a year. I was blown away by the level of fiscal irresponsibility…now, nothing surprises me. I’ve learned that 95%+ of all people suck.

    • 0 avatar
      KixStart

      My next-door-neighbor bought 3 new Chevy trucks in the span of about 20 months. Swore he was saving more money every time he made a new deal. Maybe the length of the loan increased from 4 to 27 years along the way. Who knows?

      Saul: “95%+ of all people suck.”

      I don’t know about that but it seems like an overwhelming majority suck at math.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

      My dad did something similar in 1998. He bought a 98 Ranger ex-cab, 4wd, 4.0L. Decided he wanted a travel trailer so he traded in the Ranger on a 98 F-150 4.6L 4wd. One trip into the Cascade mountains and it was clear the 4.6L was working itself to death trying to pull the trailer.

      So, he traded it in for a 99 (released in 1998) F-250 2wd Super Duty with the 7.3L PowerStroke. The madness ended there, though, as he still has the truck with over 320K on it. They got rid of the travel trailer, but he kept the truck.

      Neither the engine nor the transmission (as well as other components such as rear axle, etc) have had to be rebuilt, it still runs and drives very well considering the mileage. He has replaced glow plugs, starter, injector control module, water and fuel pumps in the past year or so, and I think three injectors (after filling up with contaminated Diesel shortly after Katrina). We also have changed the trans fluid and filter last year when it started acting up. After the service, it shifted perfectly again.

      Other than the 1998 trucks, he usually never traded in a vehicle before 100k miles, the only exception would be the 2008 Grand Marquis I sold for them in 2012 so they could buy the 2012 Taurus they have now.

    • 0 avatar
      mechaman

      I suspect some of the Regal owners traded up to a larger Buick in some cases. I don’t know for sure, but I knew people who did that in the case of other cars.

  • avatar
    28-Cars-Later

    These will be the Auroras of the next decade and slowly fade into complete irrelevance. I saw a *dealer* price an MY11/35k? at 15,5 as is in late 2013 which is hair from wholesale at that time. This didn’t inspire confidence in me for the model.

  • avatar

    There have always been individuals that for one reason or another acquired the “wrong” vehicle from the outset. Usually the emotions overcame the rational thought process.

    When pragmatic rationality 12 months later has finally set in, the vehicle is traded for what should have been acquired in the first place.

    Not easy to do a deal with a 1 year old vehicle in which deficiency from the trade was rolled into the financial package and now its coming back as a trade with an even bigger deficiency.

    The customer might say “Made a mistake, how much can you roll over, and how much do I have to pay to get out of this mistake”

    The fine print relating to the study/survey
    The Fine Print: The accompanying list is based on an iSeeCars.com analysis of nearly five million new 2014 model-year cars purchased between September 1, 2013 and March 31, 2014, and more than 140,000 used cars from the same model year sold a year later, between September 1, 2014 and March 31, 2014, with 10,000 to 15,000 miles. The number of used cars was divided by the number of new cars for each model to calculate the proportion of new cars sold after one year of ownership. The overall average proportion was then calculated across all models, and the individual proportions were expressed as a multiple of this average. Models with sales greater than 2.5 times the overall average were selected for inclusion on the final list.

    • 0 avatar
      seth1065

      Ok AGR let’s say I buy your thought process, maybe on the X1 and the C Class but the other cars on the list do not strike me as emotional buys. Agreed your gonna take a beating on trading in a car after a year, I would suggest these folks lease to make sure they like a car or live with it until the loan is paid off,

      • 0 avatar
        KixStart

        seth: “maybe on the X1 and the C Class but the other cars on the list do not strike me as emotional buys.”

        Especially a Buick sedan. I can’t imagine a buyer goes into a Buick-GMC dealer looking for an SUV and comes away with a Regal.

      • 0 avatar
        Big Al From 'Murica

        My Frontier had some emotion in it…I was so bowled over when I saw the window cranks that I knew I was going to buy. I love it but I almost traded a year later when the 2014 models got cruise and Bluetooth standard but I had already lined the bed and gotten a decent stereo so I stuck it out and am glad I did.

    • 0 avatar
      onyxtape

      I’ve heard plenty of times where people were “screwed” by the salesman and it turned out their money got a little too tight with the payment that they thought they could swing. How many times have I heard someone try to “save money” by trading in a perfectly fine family sedan for a $40K Optima hybrid?

      A few doctor’s bills or a bad month in tips, then they’re forced to trade it in for something with a lower monthly payment. The bath that they take on the trade-in is irrelevant because they typically don’t have the requisite mathematical cognition to realize they’re taking a bath on it.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

      • 0 avatar
        Sigivald

        It’s double irrelevant because if they can’t make the monthlies, it’ll get repo’d, and then they’re out the whole thing, not just the depreciation.

        The mistake was buying a car they could marginally afford, not trading in the bad idea on something they *can* afford.

  • avatar
    sportyaccordy

    My god people arent taking haircuts on these trades, theyre getting scalped. If they are selling a year old at 30% off MSRP they must be trading at damn near 50% off. How bad can the infotainment be? They have buttons and knobs. It’s gotta be something else. I would love to hear the reasoning from the former owners directly. I’m sure… no, I’d hope GM woudl too

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      I second your curiosity in the matter. “Premium I” MY15s are doing 20 grand, GS a bit better. How much are these things again?

      03/04/15 PITTSBGH Regular $21,700 11,717 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
      03/17/15 PA $21,500 13,051 Avg GREY 4GT P Yes
      03/25/15 NEWORLNS Regular $21,400 10,819 Avg WHITE 4GT A Yes
      03/31/15 PA $21,200 18,154 Avg SILVER 4GT P Yes
      04/02/15 ARENA IL $20,100 15,306 Below SILVER 4GT A Yes
      04/20/15 ORLANDO $20,800 12,032 Avg BLACK 4GT A Yes

      MY15 Buick Regal GS

      2/18/14 DETROIT $24,000 20,428 Below WHITE 4GT 6 Yes
      12/30/14 DETROIT $28,600 5,940 Avg RED 4GT A Yes
      02/09/15 ORLANDO $28,200 7,529 Avg RED 4GT A Yes
      02/12/15 DETROIT $32,800 44 Above GREY 4GT A No
      03/09/15 ORLANDO $29,100 31 Avg RED 4GT A No
      04/14/15 STATESVL Lease $28,200 1,486 Avg BLACK 4GT A Yes

      • 0 avatar
        bball40dtw

        GS is damn near $40K (manual starts at $38K). The guy across the street has one. His lease payment is more than the loan payment for my wife’s MkT. They are the same amount of years too. Silly Irish neighbor got hoodwinked by the Buick dealer.

        Plus, he has summer tires that he refuses to change during the lease, and needs people to push him down the street in the winter.

  • avatar
    GS 455

    Their friends knew it was a Buick.

    • 0 avatar
      JMII

      Good one. They thought they were buying a knock off Lexus only to realize is just another GM product except way over priced.

      The only vehicle I have ditched early (under 10 months) was a ’97 Isuzu Rodeo. Between the terrible gas mileage and general lack of useability plus the piss poor handling / crumby road manners I just couldn’t stand driving it every day. It was truely a penalty box sucking all the joy out of driving. It didn’t help that my previous ride was an nearly perfect, awesome Honda Prelude Si. The difference between those two vehicle was a gap my mind just couldn’t handle at the time. So Rodeo was replaced my an Eclipse which was then replaced but I what I should have gotten in the first place – a V6 Ranger Splash (extra cab, step side, sport truck).

  • avatar
    MrIcky

    RE: the Charger. I’m on the Dodge boards alot, and anecdotally many of these trade ins may actually be for the 2015s which had some options people had been pining for. Quite a few 13/14 Challengers got traded in for 2015s as well.

    • 0 avatar
      KixStart

      Traded a 1 year old car because of options?? What options could be worth $thousands?

    • 0 avatar
      Upthewazzu

      Didn’t Dodge run an ad campaign saying that if you bought a ’14 that you’d get a free upgrade to a ’15 or something along those lines?

    • 0 avatar
      danio3834

      Dodge offered a pull ahead deal on 2014s in anticipation of the 2015 models that let owners trade them in order to take a 2015 when they became available. This is likely a contributing factor.

      The Charger also has many owners willing to trade in as soon as a newer or more powerful model comes out as noted above.

      • 0 avatar
        TMA1

        Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. And Dodge owners seem pretty loyal. A lot of Charger/Challenger owners are just trading for new models of the same car it seems.

        • 0 avatar
          danio3834

          Yup, Challenger loyalty is among the highest in the industry. The Charger is less so, but still has many owners willing to take a bath to get the latest and greatest.

  • avatar
    Fred

    I really liked the Regal but I was afraid of reliability, and that’s coming from an ex Audi owner.

    • 0 avatar
      JohnTaurus_3.0_AX4N

      As noted in the article, the common problems usually were related to the infotainment systems, not actual mechanical break downs. A healthy majority of the “problems” with the technology were probably operator error.

      The same way Ford was dinged in reliability ratings mostly due to MFT. Its not like the cars were $hitting engines and transmissions left and right, the mechanics of the car were rated very well when you subtract the issues with MFT.

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        “The same way Ford was dinged in reliability ratings mostly due to MFT…”

        BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

        Put your fingers in your ears and wear dark sunglasses and keep ignoring the FACT that CR has deemed every Ford Ecoboost motor (each…and…every…one) as either “worse than average” in terms of reliability, or (more often) “much worse than average” in terms of reliability.

        I won’t even bring up Ford’s “PowerShift” dual clutch nightmare of a transmission…ooops , just did.

        • 0 avatar
          Big Al From 'Murica

          Ugh…go back to talking about ATS clusters.

        • 0 avatar
          DubTee1480

          My wife’s 2015 Fusion has a Consumer Reports recommendation with average to better than average (though not class leading) reliability projections. This is from the 2015 Buying Guide sitting on my desk… Not all Ford products fared so well though so it’s possible you overlooked that one. She absolutely hated the PowerShift in the Focus. Hoping this one treats her well, neither one of us are big Ford fans but so far we are pretty pleased with this one.

  • avatar
    cpthaddock

    It was a head scratcher for me to see the Opel Insignia rebadged and price hiked to be a GM premium product. I enjoyed my Insignia rental as being a generally competent family car, but it never struck me as having potential to be more than that. By far the best part of my experience was the turbo diesel for long distance cruising.

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      They did it before with the first generation Catera. You’d think they would have learned from this but…

      “The Cadillac Catera is a full-size, four-door, five passenger luxury sedan manufactured from 1997–2001 in Rüsselsheim, Germany, and marketed in the United States as a rebadged variant of the Opel Omega — reaching 95,000 sales over four model years.”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Catera

      • 0 avatar
        bball40dtw

        At least they didn’t put the terrible, terrible Ellesmere Port engine in the Regal. It’s still a fail that it doesn’t have the 3.6L avialable.

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          It would have made too much sense to go ahead with the 3.6 so they nixed it.

          Actually I think RenCen thinking was we already offer a FWD sedan V6, we don’t need two so let’s do the Opel rebadge with a stick and offer a boy racer turbo edition. If the Verano didn’t exist (and it prob did not when this was planned) this would sort of makes sense.

          • 0 avatar
            bball40dtw

            The MKZ with the 3.7L V6 starts for less than the Regal GS. $3000 less ($4000 when comparing automatic to automatic). I know which one I’d rather have.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Aw but turbo is cool!

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            Norm’s trifecta tune turbo has carbide tipped blades, is immune to extreme heat & any coking, triples the base horsepower, and doubles the fuel economy.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Knock it off or the black helicopters are gonna show up and whisk us off to Area 51.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Ok here we go, Regal was supposed to be the next Saturn Aura:

            “GM originally planned to sell a modified version of the Opel Insignia in North America as the second generation Saturn Aura, but changed strategy after deciding to discontinue the Saturn brand”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_Regal

            Oh and the Saturn Aura we did get was in fact a modified Opel Vectra:

            “The Saturn Aura was, especially in the interior, a quite heavily modified version of the Opel Vectra C.”

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel

            So there you have it, Regal has no business being in the Buick lineup whatsoever as it was intended to be a Saturn.

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            I should probably be embarrassed to admit that I always liked the Astra.

            I have a love for vehicles that ride more solidly than they have a right to, like mini tanks, and with Teutonic levels of suspension refinement (or close enough).

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            I did too but at the end of the day its an Opel for better or worse.

          • 0 avatar
            Mirko Reinhardt

            Verano – another Opel rebadge…

  • avatar
    SCE to AUX

    Interesting study – 10.7% is stunning.

    The only car I wanted to trade after a year (actually wanted to after a month) was our 05 Odyssey. But since I was locked into a lemon lawsuit with it, I had to wait until it was 20 months old to get rid of it.

  • avatar

    nice enough car but it’s not a Buick, it’s an Opel.

    • 0 avatar
      carguy

      It plays in a very competitive segment and for which is has too many weaknesses. Interior quality, performance as well as passenger and cargo space being among them.

      The Regal Premium is about the same price as an Acura TLX 4cyl + Tech package. If interior space & quality, economy and resale value are important to you then the choice is not a difficult one.

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        Resale value is clearly a win for Acura, because Acura is resting on a dwindling cache of past goodwill.

        Acura is a lame, unimaginative, sad, tosser of a vehicle marque, and shadow of its former glorious self, that Mr. Honda would be ashamed of if he were alive today.

  • avatar
    Nick

    That would explain why there’s some (seemingly) screaming deals on Regals on used car lots.

    As for the Cruze, if this is reflective of that particular vehicle, yikes:

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/winnipeg-woman-fed-car-thats-043204151.html

    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      “Danielle Champagne says in addition to the 15 recalls, she’s also had to deal with 15 warranty issues for her 2011 Chevrolet Cruze, which she had agreed to finance for $34,000 when she purchased it.”

      “The GM official added that recalls are a standard industry practice, but stressed that the Cruze is a safe and reliable car.”

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        “…for her 2011 Chevrolet Cruze, which she had agreed to finance for $34,000 when she purchased it.”

        Darwin FTMFW!!!!

      • 0 avatar
        Sigivald

        http://www.chevroletcruzeforum.com/index.php?/topic/268-what-did-you-pay-for-your-cruze/page-3

        A loaded LTZ retailed for CAD$31k, per customer reports at the time.

        $34K sounds plausible even without negative equity if you throw in any options and normal dealer-ripoff stuff.

    • 0 avatar
      DeadWeight

      Very disturbing.

      My niece received a 1LT Cruze as an early graduation present (great young lady with near perfect GPA at an IB High School in Troy, MI that’s among the nation’s hardest) and her dad paid just hair over 16k for it plus TTL.

      • 0 avatar
        mechaman

        Suspect that a LOT of these folks didn’t give the cars a good test before buying. I mean, if you traded in a Sonic, you MUST have known it was small before you laid the cash down. Agreed that the Verano is a better buy than the Regal, and that the Astra was/is a pretty good car. I wouldn’t have even rebadged it.

  • avatar
    Master Baiter

    Sonic?

    Didn’t that tart who used to post here buy one of those? I believe her name was Caroline…
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    • 0 avatar
      28-Cars-Later

      I find it interesting a pretty girl was allowed to post maybe 1-3 half decent articles about a new car purchase -and then disappear- yet many of us have hung around for years and are never offered such an opportunity.

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        I have a bromance crush on you & greatly appreciate your posting real life auction transaction prices on all manner of slightly used vehicles, and we also share a love of beverages, but I must confess, as I digress, that although Caroline caused me no distress (she seemed quite a nice person), that I found her writing to lack technical precision and artistic, flourishing finesse (not that she wouldn’t/couldn’t have refined her skills to this deficiency address).

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          You’ve got me chuckling, DW. I think we both have a passion for telling it “like it is” which I admire about you. In the case of Caroline, I liked her writing but as you put it, the pieces lacked “finesse”. The truth is though most of us could turn in the same result or better, we simply lack the T&A appeal.

      • 0 avatar
        CoreyDL

        I think saying her articles were half-decent is being generous. She wrote like a freshman in college, and had just as much life insight and perspective.

        Far too much “Teehee and boys like big cars but women hate it boobs” nonsense.

        • 0 avatar
          CJinSD

          Just stare at their mouths and say, ‘that seems like a lot to deal with.’ You’ll soon learn why some of us tolerate the voiced introspections of young women.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            When is soon? And why will I learn it then!? I’m almost 29, I feel like I’ve dealt with young women already.

            I find the two or three cool ones that float to the top and know them instead.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            HELMET: What happened to then?

            SANDURZ: We passed then?

            HELMET: When?

            SANDURZ: Just now. We’re at now, now.

            HELMET: Go back to then.

            SANDURZ: When?

            HELMET: Now.

            SANDURZ: Now?

            HELMET: Now.

            SANDURZ: I can’t.

            HELMET: Why?

            SANDURZ: We missed it.

            HELMET: When?

            SANDURZ: Just now.

            HELMET: When will then be now?

            SANDURZ: Soon.

            HELMET: How soon?

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Is that from Adult Swim? Ha

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Spaceballs.

            youtube.com/watch?v=VeZ9HhHU86o

          • 0 avatar
            DubTee1480

            Space Balls

          • 0 avatar
            PrincipalDan

            @28_cars_later, we need to lock CoreyDL in a man cave and show him the works of Mel Brooks.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Hey I haven’t seen Blazing Saddles either.

            But I saw him in Curb Your Enthusiasm and he was pretty funny.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            @principaldan

            Oh I very much agree. Corey where have you been all your life if you haven’t seen Spaceballs, Blazing Saddles, History of the World Part I, or even Robin Hood Men in Tights. How did you miss out on Men in Tights? It came out in 1993 well within the sphere of your childhood.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            Allow me to introduce you to my mother, who prohibited the viewing of Rugrats permanently because they said “shut up” on that program.

            I could count the number of episodes of The Simpsons I’ve seen on one hand.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            You didn’t miss out on Rugrats IMO, but in general this needs to be rectified.

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I will have to add those movies to my list of weekend things to watch. Currently it’s a short list!

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            Dude, you HAVE to watch Blazing Saddles. That movie could not be made today because of the PC Police.

            Also, for an excellent modernist twist of absolute jaded, snark, “It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia” satisfies (the “old” series from 2005 to about 2012, not the “new” one that FXX began running late last year/this year, which is ruined – go to YouTube and look up some of the best of Always Sunny compilations, not at work though obviously, buying helps to know the background and character development).

          • 0 avatar
            CoreyDL

            I have seen at least 1.5 seasons of Always Sunny, and all the (borrowed) DVDs are on the coffee table in my living room right now!

            I enjoy how uncouth they are. And when Mack tries to display class.

            O’BOYLE.

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            Nothing better than Charlie, Dennis, Mac, Dee & Frank in “the lawyer’s office” trying to patent their stripper club inventions while Mac & Dennis are believing they’re double-crossing everyone due to their insane belief that Mac’s ability to eat & digest signed paper contracts nullifies them (when copies have been made), and Charlie gets into technical legal debates on “bird law” with the lawyer, and Frank goes repossess a home whereby the borrowers defaulted on their mortgage.

          • 0 avatar
            DubTee1480

            Isn’t that the same one that Sweet Dee tries to be a surrogate mother?

    • 0 avatar
      MPAVictoria

      “Tart”? Really? You think that is acceptable?

    • 0 avatar
      formula m

      Tart eh? You sound like an old fart

  • avatar
    Davekaybsc

    Acura’s double stuff infotainment disaster is far worse than Buick’s and there’s currently a class action lawsuit over their new 8-speed DCT which seems to not work very well. If you’re running from a Regal in to the arms of a TLX, you may not be glad you did.

    That being said, while I thought the interior was a nice step up from a loaded Accord, Fusion, Sonata, etc which all cost similar money as a moderately equipped Regal, the rear is likely too cramped for a lot of people. That wasn’t my problem though. Forward visibility wasn’t great, and there’s no space for the driver’s left foot. The BIG problem with the Regal though, the show stopper for me, were the seats.

    The seats are TERRIBLE. Rock hard, lumpy, awful rocks that are the worst of typical EU seat design. Some of the standard BMW seats are nearly as bad, but definitely not *that* bad. The standard seats in the E60 5 series came pretty close though. I had a back ache getting out of a Regal after less than an hour behind the wheel, and I suspect that for some owners that may be enough to take the hit and get rid of it, especially if they regularly go on long drives. Those typical 10 minute loops that most dealers give you on a test drive just aren’t enough.

    • 0 avatar
      thornmark

      The Acura transmission is regarded by reviewers as best in class and best of type. As for legal issues, I doubt the Acura transmission has caused any deaths.

      Plus the Buick is just another unsuccessful GM Opel rebadge – something foisted on Buick since the 1960’s. The best thing you can say about the Regal is that its indicated poor resale value makes it a cheap ride for subsequent owners until you factor in repairs and parts availability. I suspect the junkyards will be seeing these Opel Buicks much earlier than the TLX.

  • avatar
    RideHeight

    inoseelist at iseecars.com. I’d like to know how many other J-vehicles are on it, if any. And if any consideration was given to bumpy ii’s point about fleet/program cars.

  • avatar
    Joss

    Realtor market booming again in America. Or financed by meth or grow op.

  • avatar
    realpower1

    Assumptions about quality driving the trade-in timing may be just that, assumptions. Buick has an older demographic; I knew many friends of my father, and even friends today much younger, who pride themselves on getting a new car every year. While JD data is cited, there may be more than one factor in play here.

  • avatar
    an innocent man

    My father in law (about 75yo) buys a new car about every 3-4 years, and never ever test drives one. He’ll call down to the one dealer in town and ask what they have. He’ll pick from the list they rattle off and tells them he’ll be down in the morning to do the paperwork and pick it up. Furthermore, every spring and fall when the clocks change, he has to wait until our next trip home so I can adjust the clock for him, no matter how many times I freaking show him how to change it. I can imagine the first time he ends up with a new car with some sort of infotainment, it won’t take but a few days for him to trade it back in on something. Even something used.

    • 0 avatar
      DeadWeight

      Lol.

      I know this type very well.

      I’m not making any moral judgments, but if these types didn’t exist…let’s just say that the automotive industry and new & used vehicle retail structure would look far different than at present.

      “You trade your used car in every 3 to 4 years for a new one, just because..”

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      He needs an Infiniti with analogue clock, and the nav option. It does DST by itself, and the analog clock has a forward button and a back button, built right into the metal ring around the face.

  • avatar
    slance66

    In my non-stop car search, I’m frequently checking Autotrader and Cars, and if I search for AWD sedans, the C300 is everywhere. Hundreds of them it seems. The GLK is the same if I look for SUVs at the same price range (and more than a few MLs).

  • avatar
    rentonben

    Note: I have a german built Regal, so I may be biased.

    I have a suspicion that the Regal is one of those cars that’s bought by older people that have are at that stage of life where they just don’t give a s#it about their money – they trade cars every few years just because.

  • avatar
    brandloyalty

    Any such study would have to consider circumstances. Such as what the car was replaced with. If people really liked a car, they might very well be happy to part with the cash to get a brand new one. On the other hand, some models might appeal to an older demographic and have a high proportion of estate sales.


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