By on February 20, 2015

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We haven’t yet received an updated Volkswagen Jetta based on the MQB architecture, but maybe we’ll be lucky enough to get a Jetta GLI based on this.

The newest edition of the Skoda Octavia vRS features the usual VW 2.0L turbo engine, bumped up to 230 horsepower, along a limited slip differential – sort of.

The GLI has received only a lukewarm reception in the enthusiast press, one that might not be deserved. Either way, the latest MQB GTI is a massive leap forward, and one can only imagine how that would translate to a qualitative improvement over the GLI, which rides on a now-dated architecture. Maybe keep the Skoda chassis tuning as well. We hear it’s pretty damn good.

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29 Comments on “MQB GLI Is A-OK...”


  • avatar
    70Cougar

    I’ve long feared the reliability and repair costs of VWs, but I’ve been driving a Beetle for the last two weeks while my Civic Si is in the shop, and I like the ride/handling balance of the VW and the torque. A new Jetta will be on my radar if it is big enough to accommodate my growing family.

  • avatar
    Ryoku75

    If the new GLi gets bumped up to 230hp it’ll be into Audi A3 territory, just without Audis 4WD system.

    If I had the money I’d seriously consider a newer VW, or a Ford Focus.

    • 0 avatar
      Easton

      I was always bummed out by the lack of manual transmission in the A3. I would take a GLI with a stick over it any day.

    • 0 avatar
      See 7 up

      Audi’s transverse engined cars (a3, tt) use the same awd system as Volkswagen.
      A GLI 4motion will essentially be an a3 quattro with a vw interior

      • 0 avatar

        Don’t forget the Q3, which (unlike the MQB-based A3 and upcoming TT) remains on the PQ35 (Mk.5/Mk.6) platform…

        • 0 avatar
          Jimal

          That is a temporary situation. In Europe the Q3 is already MQB. The Q3 we currently have in the states was a rush job to not miss out on the hot CUV market. My understanding is that the new Q3 is coming to North America later this year or early next.

          • 0 avatar
            derekson

            The Euro Q3 isn’t any different from the US one. The 2016 refresh doesn’t change the platform either; it’s still the PQ35-based vehicle. Supposedly as one of the later developed PQ35 cars the Q3 does have several updated components sourced from MQB though, so it’s sort of a PQ35-MQB hybrid. Similarly the newest version of the Skoda Fabia is an amalgam of PQ26 and MQB.

  • avatar
    Lichtronamo

    I too had reservations about VW reliability before losing my mind and buying a 2011 GTI. Car was amazing to drive, so we’ll put together and ultimately totally reliable over 110,000 miles. Sold that GTI and bought the new 2015 last September. Article is exactly right that the new MQB is the old car cranked up to 11 – better in every way. An MQB Jetta GLI would be outstanding.

  • avatar
    davefromcalgary

    I read the link, and to me, thats a real LSD, no sort of need be applied.

    Wish I had something like that on my car. 100% torque to either wheel, dynamically apportioned would be a boon in snow.

    • 0 avatar
      burgersandbeer

      The “sort of” does make us more likely to click. I’m not trying to accuse Derek of “click-bait” here; an in depth discussion of VW’s LSD is a worthwhile read, and using “limited slip differential” as the link text is not as much encouragement to read it.

      • 0 avatar
        davefromcalgary

        Yup, as long as the unit can maintain lockup under constant usage conditions, I’d take that over a mechanically actuated locker, or a gear or torsen type LSD.

        The only thing I would ask would be a 50/50 lock type setting for deeper snow. Good tires, momentum and both wheels digging goes a long way.

        Regarding the link and the way its presented, I kind of get it, because when I think eLSD i think brake actuated (which isnt an LSD by any stretch), and “electronically controlled mechanical torque vectoring differential” doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue.

  • avatar
    burgersandbeer

    I would very much like to see an MQB Jetta/GLI. Maybe by 2020, since North American markets are well behind Europe for VW. Maybe add that to the list of VW’s US struggles; all their shit is old news by the time it gets here.

  • avatar
    kvndoom

    I am going to HAVE to take a chance on a VW again at some point in the future. I’ve never wanted a car so badly and been equally scared to own it.

    I’ll just make sure it’s not my only vehicle. :)

    • 0 avatar
      LeeK

      Check out brand reliabilty stats by TTAC contributer Michael Karesh on True Delta:

      http://www.truedelta.com/car-reliability-by-brand

      VW has slowly but steadily pulled its reliabilty numbers out of the cellar, even more of an accomplishment as the entire industry has improved overall. No one realistically expects VW to match Honda or Toyota ever, but the warnings of reliabilty nightmares posted on every single VW thread here are simply not matched by the latest data, not only seen by True Delta but also Consumer Reports (18 out of 28 brand) and yes even JD Powers. VW is getting better, and shouldn’t prevent people interested in their products from automatically excluding them.

      • 0 avatar
        richeffect

        Even if Truedelta’s numbers skew towards a better VW, anyone who’s taken a statistics class knows how to poke holes in those numbers.

        There are too many anecdotes and stories against them. Who wants to be the sucker that doesn’t pay attention to them and regrets it?

        Many people that speak out have either owned them before, or know people that have and regretted it. When you see someone in pain, you avoid that which caused it. These are the simple warnings that we are taught not to ignore. Hence, VW.

        • 0 avatar
          LeeK

          “Anyone who’s taken a statistics class knows how to poke holes in those numbers…”

          So don’t look at True Delta (whose founder set up the service to be even more select in defining defects) and look to Consumer Reports or JD Powers. They all say the same thing with the same methodology applied to all manufacturers: Volkswagen brand reliabilty has been steadily improving over the past ten years, as has the entire industry in general.

          It doesn’t appear that you will ever consider a VW for yourself. That’s absolutely fine — it’s your choice. My response was to the original poster who says he really likes a certain VW product but was afraid of the reputation. My point is that the statistics show that on average, the brand is improving. I know people with unreliable Toyotas. I know people with unreliable Mazdas. I just dropped $4000 in repair bills into my eight-year-old Honda Element. None of this information would prevent me from recommending a Toyota, Mazda, or Honda if the vehicle met the person’s need the best.

          Believe statistics if you want or not. I happen to — maybe because I’ve taken a lot of math and statistics courses in my college career.

    • 0 avatar
      vwgolf420

      I’ve owned 1997 Jetta and currently drive a 2010 Golf. Both rock solid and dependable. Hell, even the 1969 Beetle I drove in the early 1990s was reliable. I’ve known plenty of others from work, the neighborhood, etc. who’ve had similar experiences. I know the likelihood of getting an unreliable VW is higher than a Toyota or Honda, but they’re not as universally bad as so many folks believe.

    • 0 avatar
      cristiana

      I know this is truly anecdotal, but, I have owned 3 VWs bought new. My first was a 98 beetle, and that car was a piece of shit, it was in the shop more than in my driveway. I then made a dumb decision to buy an MKV GTI in 2005 because I truly loved how it drove. I had one single issue with the car in the time I owned it. I now own a 2012 R, and in almost 20k miles I have had one issue.
      A single issue in 20k miles is probably more than a lot of cars, but it is worth it because I really love how the car drives and feels inside. If you really want a VW, give it a try, the driving is worth it.

  • avatar
    RickC

    As a serial VW owner, I’d say the reputation for unreliability is overblown. I’ve had six so far, and only the ’94 Jetta and ’00 Golf were as bad as they’re made out to be.

    The ’90 Fox, while not a great car dynamically, was virtually unbreakable. The ’03 Jetta — yes, the dreaded MkIV, complete with 2.Slow — ran strong for 11 years and 150,000 miles — traded it in a year ago on a new Tiguan. The Tig’s been solid as a rock for a year.

    When the lease is up on my wife’s Subaru, we’ll be shopping for a GTI.

    • 0 avatar
      pdl2dmtl

      Well, good luck with that. Kudos to you, maybe you should share with us what oil you use. If it’s any indication this guy’s trip to hell and back is a stark reminder to stay away: http://www.reesphotos.com/VW/

      • 0 avatar
        LeeK

        How about these Camrys?

        http://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/Camry/2009/engine/excessive_oil_consumption.shtml

        The point is, all manufacturers make lemons. The guy in the link you provided can be duplicated in just about any make or model, and finding an angry owner is just a couple of clicks away.

    • 0 avatar
      MK

      I’m sorry but that’s just too funny…” hey stories of their unreliability are blown way out of proportion! Look here, I’ve owned many a VW and only 33% of them were objectively horrible! So what are you waiting for, come join us!”

      I’m guessing that you don’t work in Marketing?

  • avatar
    segfault

    I doubt the GLI will get the MQB architecture until the regular Jetta does.

  • avatar
    TOTitan

    In 2008 I bought a new rabbit for my daughter. Seven years and 110,000 miles later it has never needed a repair….not even a battery. Ive replaced the tires once, the rear brake pads once, replaced one headlight bulb and one tailight bulb….thats it. I did put an aftermarket skid plate on it (Panzerplate) since she lives on a farm and regularly goes places that cars really shouldnt go. Before I put the plate on it she hit a big rock and punctured the trans pan once. Thankfully she pulled over and parked until I could get there with a car trailer. I replaced the pan and off she went.

    Early on she named the car “Tank Bunny”, and it turned out to be the perfect name since she and her Border Collies go just about everywhere in pursuit of her sheepherding hobby.

  • avatar
    tekdemon

    I just can’t wait for the 2016 Golf R to get here already…don’t feel like beta-testing the 2015 USDM Golf R for VW, and they’ll finally be bundling a modern entertainment system for 2016 so just have to wait until August

  • avatar
    cdnsfan27

    The R32 is here in Tampa now!

  • avatar
    Athos Nobile

    No need to have a GLI (although I think we get something similar in the 155TSI whatevs) as Skoda offer them here, including wagon version. Yes there’s a diesel too.

    This car got so much nicer with the redesign, it’s nearly a midsizer now. I wonder how the new Superb will look like.

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