SEAT And The Killer MQBs

Derek Kreindler
by Derek Kreindler

We know that the new MQB Golfs are bloody huge inside. If you need all of that, plus more space, more power and none of the added weight of the Golf R Sportwagen’s AWD system, SEAT has something for you non-American readers.

The SEAT Leon ST Cupra will be cheaper than the equivalent Golf Wagon, but it won’t have AWD, or the extra 16 horsepower. You can get a manual or a DSG, and 60 seconds come up in just 5.7 seconds. If you live in Mexico, Europe or elsewhere, game on.




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  • Marcin Laszuk Marcin Laszuk on Jan 09, 2015

    I don't know if there is currently a make any less relevant than Seat. Just after VW bought them, they did okay because they used trusted VW tech but at a lower price. Then VW tried to establish Skoda as its value brand and make Seat the sporty one, an Alfa Romeo of their own, if you will. A sporty make which produced 3 run-of-the-mill small hatchbacks (Arosa, Ibiza, Leon), two equally forgettable small sedans (Cordoba, Toledo), a minivan (Alhambra), and a supermini-based delivery van (Inca), all styled in a traditionally Volkswagen, boring fashion! No models larger than Jetta (apart from Alhambra), no models unique to their make (all were rebadged VWs or largely based thereon), not even one particularly sporty model - apart from the Cupra versions of Ibiza and Leon but practically everybody offered high-performance versions of their hatchbacks back then so it's not like they were unique. Meanwhile, people got wise and noticed that if they wanted to have a VW on a budget, Skoda's got them covered better than Seat. Skoda exploded in popularity. What did Seat do? They introduced a lineup of minivan-styled vehicles WHILE TRYING TO KEEP THE SPORTY VIBE. They really thought they could pull it off. Guess what? The sales tanked, and what did they do? They introduced a traditional, Audi A4-based sedan. Sounds good, right? PREVIOUS GEN A4-BASED. That's right, they tried to gain market share by offering a decontented, outdated platform even though even Skoda got the latest tech! Now their lineup consists of 2 models based on VW and priced between them and Skoda while having no more brand cachet than the Czechs (Mii and Leon), one cheaper equivalent to a VW but in a declining segment (Alhambra), one rebadged and more expensive Skoda (Toledo), a previous-gen supermini (Ibiza) and a minivan that debuted in 2004(!) (Altea). It's just a matter of time before Seat becomes relegated to the status of a low-volume maker operating in a few select markets before folding completely. Automotive history knows of many such examples - Lancia, Autobianchi, Innocenti, Rover, and other British makes come to mind. It's not a surprise then that VW was/is interested in buying Alfa Romeo. They know their Seat experiment has failed and they can't get any more mileage out of the failing division.

    • Dtremit Dtremit on Jan 09, 2015

      Whoever manages brand segments at VAG is smoking something excellent. See also the incessant effort to make VW into a duplicate of Audi.

  • Brettc Brettc on Jan 09, 2015

    Forget scantily clad women (which sadly have been few and far between since Mr Volkswagen left). That picture is all I need to get through the day. Too bad I can't buy either one of them.

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  • 28-Cars-Later Why RHO? Were Gamma and Epsilon already taken?
  • 28-Cars-Later "The VF 8 has struggled to break ground in the increasingly crowded EV market, as spotty reviews have highlighted deficiencies with its tech, ride quality, and driver assistance features. That said, the price isn’t terrible by current EV standards, starting at $47,200 with leases at $429 monthly." In a not so surprising turn of events, VinFast US has already gone bankrupt.
  • 28-Cars-Later "Farley expressed his belief that Ford would figure things out in the next few years."Ford death watch starts now.
  • JMII My wife's next car will be an EV. As long as it costs under $42k that is totally within our budget. The average cost of a new ICE car is... (checks interwebs) = $47k. So EVs are already in the "affordable" range for today's new car buyers.We already have two other ICE vehicles one of which has a 6.2l V8 with a manual. This way we can have our cake and eat it too. If your a one vehicle household I can see why an EV, no matter the cost, may not work in that situation. But if you have two vehicles one can easily be an EV.My brother has an EV (Tesla Model Y) along with two ICE Porsche's (one is a dedicated track car) and his high school age daughters share an EV (Bolt). I fully assume his daughters will never drive an ICE vehicle. Just like they have never watched anything but HiDef TV, never used a land-line, nor been without an iPad. To them the concept of an ICE power vehicle is complete ridiculous - you mean you have to STOP driving to put some gas in and then PAY for it!!! Why? the car should already charged and the cost is covered by just paying the monthly electric bill.So the way I see it the EV problem will solve itself, once all the boomers die off. Myself as part of Gen X / MTV Generation will have drive a mix of EV and ICE.
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