2017 Ford Raptor Makes 450 Horsepower

by Derek Kreindler

Published: January 26th, 2015

From our friends at Jalopnik comes news that the 3.5L Ecoboost V6 in the all-new Ford Raptor will make 450 horsepower (and weigh 500 lbs less). How about dropping it in the Mustang while we’re a t it?

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Outback_ute on Jan 26, 2015

This isn't terribly surprising. If Ford wants to do a successor to the GT500 we might see an Ecoboost Coyote, or perhaps they could put it in the Super Duty trucks (with a lot of durability-driven changes). Surely it would take a stronger transmission to get it into any of the fwd-based vehicles? The other crystal-ball comment re the V8 being dropped from the Mustang is that I would bet they would go to a 4.3L V8 (260ci) or even lower rather than drop the V8 altogether, with or without turbos. A 2.7L V8 Ecoboost that still sounded like a V8 (and it should) would be fine with me.

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Big Al from Oz on Jan 27, 2015

Judging some of the comments by our dedicated V8 hoons, it appears they can't see the forest through the trees. The V8 will die slowly, just like the large and cumbersome US land barges of yore. The 5 litre Coyote will be dropped once the 2.7 EcoBoob has been ironed out. Future aluminium F-150 owners will wear this one. The 3.5 EcoBoob is the replacement for the 6.2 V8. Except Ford can't use it in it's HDs because of the 3.5's terrible FE when expected to generate a bit of torque and power, ie do some real work. So, I predict the future Mustangs will have the 3.5 EcoBoob, 2.7 EcoBoob and believe it or not the 2 litre EcoBoob (not the 2.3 EcoBoob). The 2 litre EcoBoob will be for the wanna be types and hairdressers. With 450hp from the 3.5 EcoBoob it will interesting to see if Ford will produce a grenading engine. I'd say 80% of the Raptors sold are sold to people who don't have a clue. The look at me types. These guys probably talk to their friends about that cowboy movie.....Cracked Ass Mountain or what ever it was called, thinking they are cool and liberal. P.S. Some of the content in this comment is humourous.....to me anyways;)

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- Lie2me on Jan 27, 2015
  
  You'd wet your shorts for the opportunity to own a Raptor Your right, the content of your comment is quite humorous, just not for the reasons you think
  
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- Big Al from Oz on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Lie2me, Read between the humour. You tend to convey the impression that you have some smarts. Well show it for once. I doubt I would wet my shorts for a Raptor there are better off road pickups available.
  
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- Lie2me on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Big Al from Oz You mean cheaper, what does a Raptor go for there, $150-175K? Too bad about that nasty ol' luxury tax
  
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- Pch101 on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Lie2me You're exaggerating. As the last batch had a starting price of about A$120k, they'll probably sell the next one for about US$90k, plus GST (sales tax.) That's a bargain compared to the US, where they sell for half that price. Or something like that.
  
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- Lie2me on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Lie2me Ahem... Used Raptors - $119,000- $146,500 http://www.carsales.com.au/car/ford/f150/svt-raptor-badge/
  
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- Bball40dtw on Jan 27, 2015
  
  Al, Maybe you wouldn't sound like such a buffon if you didn't type "EcoBoob" in your post at least eight times. I'm not a fan of the "EcoBoost" marketing theme either, but settle down dude. You don't even try to diguise your trolling anymore. And yes, I work for Ford marketing, and Pch is a paid UAW blogger.
  
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- Carilloskis on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Big Al from Oz Big al what off road pickups are better?
  
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- Big Al from Oz on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Carilloskis This is the best pickup globally. And, it’s from the Germans’ http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/1311_2014_mercedes_benz_g63_amg_6x6_first_drive/
  
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- Big Al from Oz on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Lie2me, Now after reading the responses from yourself and your "lifestyle companion" Pch, you should be able to see why I do put in my comments as I do. Like I stated read between the lines of my comment. The 5 lite will be replaced by the 2.7 EcoBoob. It's all about costs to you guys? At least we can buy a converted, yes converted Raptor. Can you guys can't even buy a global Ranger. If you did it would cost over half a million, minimum. So, where are your BT50s, Amaroks, global Rangers, etc? You the US couldn't afford them and your draconian laws won't allow them to enter the US.
  
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- Big Al from Oz on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @bball40dtw, Your sounding on par with Pch101, the goose. You accept their scribes and yet you chastise me? Get on your bike. It appears I do have more knowledge regarding vehicles than you guys like to credit people for. I don't write comment on TTAC to be someone's friend, this isn't Facebook. If you are after some electronic friendship go to another site.
  
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- Bball40dtw on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Big Al from Oz Al- I like the V6 ecoboost engines. I do not like the marketing of them with the green leaf and "eco" name. I just could do without the pickuptruck.com tone. People disregard everything you have to say when you type posts like the one above. I also disagree about the 2.7TT replacing the Coyote. That is not a story written in stone. If the Coyote continues it's current take rate, or somewhere close, Ford won't drop it. The 3.5TT wasn't expected to be the premium F150 engine, but sales/performance against the 5.0L and 6.2L made it that.
  
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- Lie2me on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Big Al from Oz "I don’t write comment on TTAC to be someone’s friend, this isn’t Facebook." Why do you write comments that are biased and decidedly anti-American? What's in it for you to malign our country, it's policies and laws? We don't go out of our way to do the same about your country, even though when it comes to importing cars, trucks etc. you critiquing us is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. Few here understand or care what your motives are and just dismiss you as being nothing more then an internet troll, but one has to wonder why you waste so much time on deaf ears
  
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- Big Al from Oz on Jan 28, 2015
  
  @Lie2me, Anti-American comments??? Because I called the EcoBoost the EcoBoob? Are you a joker or a fool. Did you know the we do have the 2 litre EcoBOOB in Australia and it's from Spain, not the US. So the 2 litre EcoBOOB comment can be construed by you as anti-Spanish. Also, lame one, most comments on TTAC are from Americans. So naturally I will have more negative comments to the "Amercian" commenters. Do you understand probability, of did you only make it to the 6th grade??
  
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IHateCars on Jan 27, 2015

I like that Ford is keeping the Raptor alive and advancing it...just not sure about the 3.5. I love the 6.2 in my '12 Raptor, a truck like this begs for a V8. But we'll see....I'll certainly test drive one, just not sure how it can be better on fuel with 35" tires and 4.10 gears spinning at 7000 RPM.

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- Bball40dtw on Jan 27, 2015
  
  It's going to have an AWD/4WD setup. On road, you can use the electronic AWD. Off road, 4WD is mechanically engaged like before. That should be good for an EPA MPG or two.
  
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- Carilloskis on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @bball40dtw Yes but on road you keep the raptor in 2wd the awd setting will burn fuel cause the transfer case is still transferring power to the front. Also the 5.4l Raptors typicly get 2-4 mpg better than the 6.2s so I think the ecoboost will get better FE than the 6.2. But IDK if it will be better than the 5.4. (Some of us raptor owners care about fuel economy) regardless I plan on buying one as my raptor currently has 86k hard miles on it.
  
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- Big Al from Oz on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Carilloskis This is the best pickup globally. And, it's from the Germans' http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/trucks/1311_2014_mercedes_benz_g63_amg_6x6_first_drive/
  
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- Raph on Jan 27, 2015
  
  @Carilloskis The EB motor will return better FE as long as its not producing power on par with the 6.2 as soon as the EB is up on boost its FE advantage is diminished as it takes as much fuel (or typically more in the case of a boosted engine) to make the same power. The EB six might have an advantage in friction as it has fewer moving parts in the block (the heads might be a wash as the 6.2 is a SOHC 2v engine) but in terms of peak power that could be a wash as well if it takes more RPM to get that power as friction increases with the load imposed by higher RPM.
  
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Carilloskis on Jan 28, 2015

Big al yes the g63 6x6 has some nice features a ceter locking diff like the new raptor supposedly has. And tire deflation inflation system on board but who is going to go off raiding in a merc that starts at over half a million dollars. To put it another way you could buy 10 fully loaded Raptors is it ten times better than a raptor off road? Where can it go that a raptor cannot. Richard hamond will probably be the only one to take it off road.

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