Chart Of The Day: How The Last Cadillac CTS-V Fared

Most car people think everything is a stillborn effort.

@clivesl Except for brown, manual diesel wagons.

Derek was a chart topper in Chart Graphic Arts in school

@Lie2me But this was made by a man called Juan Barnett...

@Corey Lewis Derek also cheated a lot

The switches on the drivers door look very poorly.

Dat chrome fuel door Never mind, it's shipping tape. I'm telling you that is not a bad deal... DeadWeight can't pass up a good deal. Hmm, I think DW just got himself a new Caddy

Paging danio What happened to the "highest transaction prices in the segment" Seems to be a disconnect Yes I take pleasure in watching Cadillac fail.... every failure brings them closer to the success they deserve and are capable of achieving

@Lie2me I wouldn't buy it at 33k nor 25k. The 2.0T is one sh!tty motor, gauges couldn't be more Cutlass Ciera, I want a useable backseat, and the reliability on this is likely to be somewhere bad on the CR charts (especially long term). #WhatISaCadillac?

@DeadWeight Well, my dad likes it, he's 88

@DeadWeight I think I'm going to anoint you the Archbishop of Gauges. "#WhatISaCadillac" Indeed. I have no fracking idea and neither do the staffers or so it seems. One gentlemen believes its a idea, one lady doesn't believe its a car, and a third gentlemen believes it to be a pen.

@28-Cars-Later I sent this past quote of mine to Johann's email this morning & he un-friended me (just kidding; I don't have a Farcebook account): 2015 VW Golf TSI Gauges (not even GTI, either) – a 20k vehicle: http://www.cnet.com/pictures/2015-volkswagen-golf-tsi-tdi-pictures/21/ 2015 Hyundai Sonata Gauges – a 20kish vehicle: http://www.auto-classics.com/the-design-and-appearance-of-hyundai-sonata-sport/2015-hyundai-sonata-sport-gauge-cluster 2006 Pontiac G6 Gauges – a 16k vehicle?: http://dealerrevs.com/gallery/46939005.html 2015 Cadillac ATS/CTS Gauges – a 36k to ??? (65k) vehicle?: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2013-Cadillac-ATS-3.6-AWD-010.jpg Even the 2006 Pontiac G6 Gauges are better.

@28-Cars-Later "I think I’m going to anoint you the Archbishop of Gauges." What!? He's Lucifer Prince of Darkness, Ruler of the Underworld, King of the DeadWeight the Anti-Cadillac himself... ... and Rosemary's Baby-Daddy

@28-Cars-Later Cadillac itself has been seduced by the Dark One and lost its way. We pray it finds its way home to its roots of Four Hundred Seventy Two. Let us pray.

@28-Cars-Later I'm being honest here (and I've driven this car): A 27k Chrysler 300 (post haggle price) is 3x as comfortable, plush & luxurious. A 20k base GLS whatever Hyundai Slants (2015) is just as quiet, solid, roomier, has better interior design, the motor is as refined, and it will be more reliable/durable. A 18k VW Golf (2015) rides nicer, has as much interior room, has way better switchgear & gauges, is just as quiet, and has a more refined chassis, more refined 1.8T motor, and all around more refined demeanor. Cadillac has a crisis on its hands that no Johann can fix (assuming Johann ever fixed anything in his life). #WhatISaCadillac?

@28-Cars-Later " base GLS whatever Hyundai Slants (2015)" above is supposed to be "base GLS whatever Hyundai SONATA (2015)" I swear spellchecker automatically always changes Sonata to "Slants" on my tablet.

@28-Cars-Later I don't even believe with the proper leadership it can be fixed, it will certainly never be fixed with the current group of foreign clowns they have running the brand. The only hope the brand has is innovation mixed with a return to its roots - but neither will occur.

Welll....not so fast: "Comments: SAVE $15,000 - MUST QUALIFY FOR ALL INCENTIVES" Did we miss that part? Probably so. I've seen plenty of this posted before, the dealer takes EVERY single discount available and says that this is the new price. Military Discount? Check. Current Owner Discount? Check. Recent College Grad? Check.

@SC5door Say what!!!??? Cadillac employing Kia* like sleazeball marketing tactics out of sheer desperation ot move the metal? *Apologies to Kia, who now can engineer a durable vehicle with modern gauges and instrument panels. #WhatISaCadillac? #TellUsMelodyLee

That's a misleading link, Deadwight. I was hoping that dealer discounted its CTS's by 33% as you claimed, but it appears to be a unicorn that you found. Probably a high mileage demo unicorn.

@Secret Hi5 Dealers aren't going to give such a steep discount on their floorplan unless GM will reimburse them. Dealers will rather focus on products they can sell to a wider audience (SRX) than overpriced cars the avg buyer wants to pay a premium for, hence the poor resale and me'h sales figures.

@Secret Hi5 Just looked up the incentives on Edmunds. That model is discounted the way it is because it's a 2014. So it's a blowout sale on last year's model. And, yes, GM is providing lots of incentives. Incentives on the equivalent 2015 model: $750 lease loyalty. Makes sense to me.

@FreedMike i get the feeling that a Cadillac picked on poor Deadweight when he was a kid. That would explain it, I think...

@28-Cars-Later I had an SRX overnight last week in VA. It was TERRIBLE. Wobbly suspension, kinda cramped, and my God, those non-button touchpad buttons are just terrible. I sure hope the Saab version had better suspension tuning and real buttons.