By on December 22, 2014

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From the Twitter page of Juan Barnett comes a breakdown of sales of the last-gen Cadillac CTS. Including the CTS-V.

As expected, wagons were a bit player in the CTS lineup. The V wagon made up just half a percent of the total sales, while making up around 8 percent of V sales. But given the marginal costs required to build a CTS-V wagon, it presumably ended up making money for GM.

This time around, there will only be a sedan with an automatic gearbox. The Coupe and stick shift has gone to the ATS-V, while the wagon was lost to Cadillac’s aborted European foray, which necessitated the CTS wagon experiment.

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46 Comments on “Chart Of The Day: How The Last Cadillac CTS-V Fared...”


  • avatar
    energetik9

    I think only once did I ever see a CTS-V wagon on the road.

  • avatar
    Compaq Deskpro

    I have seen probably less than 10 of them on the road. I have seen only one CTS-V wagon, it had a license plate of “DARTH V” or something to that effect.

  • avatar
    MK

    While were on the topic, it would be interesting to see a similar breakdown for Jaguar, BMW, Mercedes, audi wagons as a percent of their US sales.

    Nothing shocking with the Cadillac data.

  • avatar
    DeadWeight

    If the ATS, CTS & ATS (and even the SRX) are rare in any area of the country outside of metro Detroit, excepting car rental agency lots, and are especially rare on the coasts, the CTS-V (and ATS-V) are more rare than Lamborghinis & Ferraris.

    Cadillac is making ultra exotics now!

    Johann De Nysschen & Melody Lee don’t oversee the production of vehicles, but the production of a “brand” with its synergies, social awareness, conceptualization that “pops,” and anti-counter-revolutionary-hipster-Millennial-confident-Don’tWant-YesIdo-ScratchThat-WhiskeyTangoFoxTrot ULTRAVIBE.

    #What’s-A-Cadillac?

  • avatar
    DeadWeight

    Hmmm…If the ATS, CTS & ATS (and even the SRX) are rare in any area of the country outside of metro Detroit, excepting car rental agency lots, and are especially rare on the coasts, the CTS-V (and ATS-V) are more rare than Lamborghinis & Ferraris.

    Cadillac is making ultra exotics now!

    Johann De Nysschen & Melody Lee don’t oversee the production of vehicles, but the production of a “brand” with its synergies, social awareness, conceptualization that “pops,” and anti-counter-revolutionary-hipster-Millennial-confident-Don’tWant-YesIdo-ScratchThat-WhiskeyTangoFoxTrot ULTRAVIBE.

    #What’s-A-Cadillac?

  • avatar
    thegamper

    Does that mean that Cadillac has given up its European aspirations? I rather liked the CTS wagon, shame it didn’t sell better but not surprising. It is also a shame that the new CTS-V is only offered with automatic, even if manual transmission sales would be low, you are building the car to appeal to enthusiast and the media, makes sense to have a manual in my opinion unless the development cost would be massive. That I am not sure about, seems to vary depending on complexity of vehicle and who you ask.

  • avatar
    Arthur Dailey

    A recently moved neighbour had the CTS-V wagon, in black. That was a car that I would gladly have owned (if I had the disposable cash).

    It was kept in his beautifully finished garage, with a rubberized floor, beside his prized 1956 T-bird.

  • avatar
    Sjalabais

    Any chance to get a GM interview on what they were thinking when they tried to make Cadillac a sellable item in Europe? Most car people could have told them it was a stillborn effort.

  • avatar
    CoreyDL

    That is a very nice chart – readable and well done. Incorporates the V-colors perfectly!

  • avatar
    DeadWeight

    Cadillac is blowing out otherwise unsellable AWD 48k new CTSs for 33k, no haggling required:

    http://www.herbchamberscadillaclynnfield.com/new/CADILLAC/2014-CADILLAC-CTS-Danvers-725ab4b40a0a00646b8974a33be6cd3f.htm

    Johann WILL NOT resort to discounting to move inventory.

    Just do a 33% across the board price cut off MSRP, Ms. Melody Lee!

    “My baby forceful in a brand new Cadillac (grumpy because terrible gauges, coarse engine, poor reliability, CUE, unrefined ride quality, small back seat)…”

    • 0 avatar
      CoreyDL

      The switches on the drivers door look very poorly.

    • 0 avatar
      Lie2me

      Dat chrome fuel door

      Never mind, it’s shipping tape. I’m telling you that is not a bad deal…

      DeadWeight can’t pass up a good deal. Hmm, I think DW just got himself a new Caddy

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        I wouldn’t buy it at 33k nor 25k.

        The 2.0T is one sh!tty motor, gauges couldn’t be more Cutlass Ciera, I want a useable backseat, and the reliability on this is likely to be somewhere bad on the CR charts (especially long term).

        #WhatISaCadillac?

        • 0 avatar
          Lie2me

          Well, my dad likes it, he’s 88

        • 0 avatar
          28-Cars-Later

          I think I’m going to anoint you the Archbishop of Gauges.

          “#WhatISaCadillac”

          Indeed. I have no fracking idea and neither do the staffers or so it seems. One gentlemen believes its a idea, one lady doesn’t believe its a car, and a third gentlemen believes it to be a pen.

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            I sent this past quote of mine to Johann’s email this morning & he un-friended me (just kidding; I don’t have a Farcebook account):

            2015 VW Golf TSI Gauges (not even GTI, either) – a 20k vehicle:

            http://www.cnet.com/pictures/2015-volkswagen-golf-tsi-tdi-pictures/21/

            2015 Hyundai Sonata Gauges – a 20kish vehicle:

            http://www.auto-classics.com/the-design-and-appearance-of-hyundai-sonata-sport/2015-hyundai-sonata-sport-gauge-cluster

            2006 Pontiac G6 Gauges – a 16k vehicle?:

            http://dealerrevs.com/gallery/46939005.html

            2015 Cadillac ATS/CTS Gauges – a 36k to ??? (65k) vehicle?:

            https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2013-Cadillac-ATS-3.6-AWD-010.jpg

            Even the 2006 Pontiac G6 Gauges are better.

          • 0 avatar
            Lie2me

            “I think I’m going to anoint you the Archbishop of Gauges.”

            What!? He’s Lucifer Prince of Darkness, Ruler of the Underworld, King of the DeadWeight the Anti-Cadillac himself…

            … and Rosemary’s Baby-Daddy

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            Cadillac itself has been seduced by the Dark One and lost its way. We pray it finds its way home to its roots of Four Hundred Seventy Two. Let us pray.

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            I’m being honest here (and I’ve driven this car): A 27k Chrysler 300 (post haggle price) is 3x as comfortable, plush & luxurious.

            A 20k base GLS whatever Hyundai Slants (2015) is just as quiet, solid, roomier, has better interior design, the motor is as refined, and it will be more reliable/durable.

            A 18k VW Golf (2015) rides nicer, has as much interior room, has way better switchgear & gauges, is just as quiet, and has a more refined chassis, more refined 1.8T motor, and all around more refined demeanor.

            Cadillac has a crisis on its hands that no Johann can fix (assuming Johann ever fixed anything in his life).

            #WhatISaCadillac?

          • 0 avatar
            DeadWeight

            ” base GLS whatever Hyundai Slants (2015)” above is supposed to be “base GLS whatever Hyundai SONATA (2015)”

            I swear spellchecker automatically always changes Sonata to “Slants” on my tablet.

          • 0 avatar
            28-Cars-Later

            I don’t even believe with the proper leadership it can be fixed, it will certainly never be fixed with the current group of foreign clowns they have running the brand. The only hope the brand has is innovation mixed with a return to its roots – but neither will occur.

    • 0 avatar
      sportyaccordy

      Paging danio

      What happened to the “highest transaction prices in the segment”

      Seems to be a disconnect

      Yes I take pleasure in watching Cadillac fail…. every failure brings them closer to the success they deserve and are capable of achieving

    • 0 avatar
      SC5door

      Welll….not so fast:

      “Comments: SAVE $15,000 – MUST QUALIFY FOR ALL INCENTIVES”

      Did we miss that part? Probably so.

      I’ve seen plenty of this posted before, the dealer takes EVERY single discount available and says that this is the new price. Military Discount? Check. Current Owner Discount? Check. Recent College Grad? Check.

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        Say what!!!???

        Cadillac employing Kia* like sleazeball marketing tactics out of sheer desperation ot move the metal?

        *Apologies to Kia, who now can engineer a durable vehicle with modern gauges and instrument panels.

        #WhatISaCadillac?

        #TellUsMelodyLee

    • 0 avatar
      Secret Hi5

      That’s a misleading link, Deadwight. I was hoping that dealer discounted its CTS’s by 33% as you claimed, but it appears to be a unicorn that you found. Probably a high mileage demo unicorn.

      • 0 avatar
        28-Cars-Later

        Dealers aren’t going to give such a steep discount on their floorplan unless GM will reimburse them. Dealers will rather focus on products they can sell to a wider audience (SRX) than overpriced cars the avg buyer wants to pay a premium for, hence the poor resale and me’h sales figures.

        • 0 avatar
          krhodes1

          I had an SRX overnight last week in VA. It was TERRIBLE. Wobbly suspension, kinda cramped, and my God, those non-button touchpad buttons are just terrible.

          I sure hope the Saab version had better suspension tuning and real buttons.

      • 0 avatar
        FreedMike

        Just looked up the incentives on Edmunds. That model is discounted the way it is because it’s a 2014. So it’s a blowout sale on last year’s model. And, yes, GM is providing lots of incentives.

        Incentives on the equivalent 2015 model: $750 lease loyalty.

        Makes sense to me.

  • avatar
    bunkie

    Let’s see, by my math that makes for a total of about 7620 wagons over 5 model years, an averaged of about 1524 per year, although I’ll bet that the 2010 is the most common. Small change compared to the SRX. In three years of ownership, I’ve seen exactly three black CTS wagons on the street. I own a very rare beast!

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