By on July 3, 2014

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The internet is littered with half-hearted, nonsensical clickbait encomiums to products that have a “notgonnahappen.com” chance of ever coming to our market. But this time, it’s different – sort of.

Vauxhall is readying the next Corsa, which will be unveiled next week, and a hot VXR version is all  but confirmed for future production. The Corsa VXR will reportedly have more power than the Ford Fiesta ST and the Renaultsport Clio 200, which both put out around 200 horsepower from their 1.6L Turbo 4-cylinder engines.

We will probably never see the Corsa VXR here, since the Corsa rides on a unique platform shared with Fiat and used only for A and B segment Opel/Vauxhall cars. World markets get the Gamma II platform that the Chevrolet Sonic rides on – but there’s no reason Chevrolet couldn’t copy the formula to create a sport Sonic. How about the all new, 200 horsepower 1.6L Ecotec that’s rumored to be in the VXR, and already in the Opel Cascada (in a slightly lower output)?

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23 Comments on “Vauxhall Readies Its Fiesta ST Fighter – Are You Listening, Chevrolet?...”


  • avatar
    Tosh

    Wow, a new Chevette for the new millenium. Yay…

  • avatar
    Tosh

    Unique ‘101 Dalmatians’ paint scheme for each 101 Chevettes sold in USA!

  • avatar
    brianyates

    Derek,Chevrolet is not listening,they’re too busy attending to the millions of recall problems with their vehicles

    • 0 avatar
      Easton

      Chevrolet hasn’t been listening to performance enthusiasts for the last 5 years, at least not the ones who aren’t wealthy enough to afford a Camaro or Corvette.

      • 0 avatar
        carguy

        The Fiesta ST is not cheap. As a matter of fact, the average price paid for an LS Camaro is about $22K while a no option Fiesta ST is $21K.

        If providing a RWD 300+ HP car for $22K is “not caring about enthusiasts” then I don’t what is.

        • 0 avatar
          Instant_Karma

          I suppose you’re right if you consider a 3700 pound car that you can’t see out of an enthusiast vehicle. Chevy does make Camaros for enthusiasts but they have a Z in the trim level somewhere and cost way way more than 22k.

          • 0 avatar

            I don’t think anybody is cross-shopping these vehicles either.

          • 0 avatar
            carguy

            They are very different cars and probably never cross shopped but there is a value perception here in the US that simply doesn’t allow compact cars to rise much above larger vehicles in price. In that context there is simply not much of a market a hot sub-compacts that cost muscle car money. Look at the sales numbers if you disagree.

  • avatar
    carguy

    As much as we would all love more choice in this segment there simply isn’t the demand to justify the expense. There are only so many folks who will pay V6 Mustang and Camaro prices for a hot sub-compact.

  • avatar
    darex

    I rented a regular Corsa in France a couple of years ago, and found it appallingly weak, and cheaply made. I can’t remember the last time I’ve hated a car so much. I’ve enjoyed Versas I’ve rented far more than this. That’s how bad it is!

  • avatar
    Volt 230

    Why won’t GM move towards the same philosophy of one world car as Ford has?

    • 0 avatar
      VoGo

      I was wondering the same thing. Most likely because GM shareholders no longer have expectations their company will yield long term, sustainable earnings. It’ll be interesting to see what Mary Barra is able to accomplish, once she gets this recall epidemic behind her.

    • 0 avatar

      One Ford is a general guideline, not really followed as serves the case. In Brazil there are unique Ford cars, as there are in other countries. Engines vary, equipment levels. As such, One Ford is an objective to be followed, but market realities are acknowledged.

      GM pretty much does that inasmuch as places where GM Korea products are accepted they sell, while Europe has Vauxhall and Opel to serve them (how much longer in anybody’s guess). In other words, GM cars are similar all over the world, except that market realities are observed even more closely.

      In a way, Ford is just smarter at this than other countries as One Ford is a wonderful talking point that get pundits all breathless.

    • 0 avatar

      They are in fact moving toward a more integrated global lineup, there’s a big plan that gets them to a much lower number of global platforms by 2018. But they started later than Ford and have a much, much bigger mess to clean up.

  • avatar

    Traditionally the VXR has been offered. Traditionally it has always offered more horsepower than the Ford, Fiat, Renault, Peugeot offerings. Traditionally, the VXR has ranked as the worst as Europeans recognize horsepower is not everything. As per tradition, this latest offering will probably get whacked by everybody and bought by (almost) no one.

    • 0 avatar
      piro

      Not even slightly true. Even Clarkson (who isn’t Vauxhall’s biggest fan, it’s fair to say) thinks the new Astra VXR handled better than rivals (Series 19, Episode 4).

      http://www.topgear.com/uk/vauxhall/astra-vxr/verdict

  • avatar
    APaGttH

    I know there is at least grumblings that the GM 1.6L turbo 4 will find its way under the hood of the Buick Encore.

    The 2.0 DI turbo 4 apparently won’t fit under the hood of the Encore/Sonic – which would make a rocket ship out of the Sonic in particular.

    The Encore sells well, despite being very down on power.

    A “hot hatch” Sonic, given the general praise I’ve read, sure would be interesting. As long as it isn’t crippled with a slushbox only option.

  • avatar
    tjh8402

    I always thought the Fiesta ST kinda put the top of the line Sonic to shame. There’s a 1,000 difference between base prices on a Sonic RS and a Fiesta ST. The features the Sonic has that the Fiesta doesn’t (according to TrueDelta) are knee and rear side airbags, rearview camera, telematic services, and heated leather seats. The Fiesta has comfort access, adjustable lumbar, better infotainment (navigation, hd radio, acc, SD card reader, text reader), and a full size spare tire (vs temp in the Sonic)…not to mention the extra 60 hp and god knows how much more fun per dollar. Oh, and the Fiesta’s mileage is 26/35 vs 26/38 for the Sonic.

    • 0 avatar
      NormSV650

      The Sonic can out slalom a. FR-S:

      http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/sonic/2012/long-term-road-test/2012-chevrolet-sonic-ltz-sonic-vs-fr-s.html

      Fiesta ST has similar, but slower, mph through the cones:

      http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fiesta/2014/road-test1.html

      • 0 avatar
        05lgt

        I’m not sure, but I’d guess that simply allowing for the customer to choose their own tires might change this outcome. Check autocross times to end my speculation. I like a back seat, so the FR-S isn’t on my list. That doesn’t mean I don’t see them around, and the wheels and tires are changed on at least as many as are sporting stock.

  • avatar
    NoGoYo

    It would be nice if the Sonic RS could stop being the Cavalier RS (an appearance package) and become the Camaro RS (actually at least somewhat designed for performance).

    • 0 avatar
      PrincipalDan

      Given the American tradition of taking smaller vehicles (see the pony cars of the 60s) and stuffing the highest possible hp engine into the engine bay, I’d say a true RS Sonic with an excess of 200hp would be more American than many people think.

  • avatar
    05lgt

    In this country, what’s the market potential for a Sonic that moves? I’d like to drive it, especially as a free press loaner, but who would buy it? The Sonic’s I see are toting 3 – 4 usually same gender 20 somethings who I guess are either roomies or just friends sharing a utility ride or a silver haired couple. Is there anyone with either funds or lack of debt aversion to seek the pleasure or vanity of a hot hatch that wants to do that in the Sonic branded loud tin can package?

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