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Hyundai used the SEMA show to announce a new crate engine program starting in December that will offer the company’s Lambda 3.8-liter, direct-injected V6 and Theta 2.0-liter, turbocharged 4-cylinder engines to aftermarket tuners at significant discounts over the cost of similar replacement engines.
The four cylinder will be available in two configurations, a turbo ready engine priced at $4,500 and one already equipped with a turbocharger, intercooler and intake ducting, priced at $6,000. The 3.8L V6 is priced at $9,000. For comparison, the Ford 2.0-liter EcoBoost 4-cylinder engine with similar power output as the Hyundai 2.0 liter motor has an MSRP of $8,000. The crate engines are covered by Hyundai’s 12-month/12,000 mile replacement parts warranty not the company’s well-known 10-year/100,000 powertrain warranty on new Hyundai vehicles.
Both engines come with intake manifolds, ignition coil packs, injectors and fuel rails. The turbo ready four was developed for those tuners planning to use larger turbochargers than the stock unit.
While we don’t normally lift quotes straight from a press release, we found Hyundai CEO John Krafcik’s remarks rather interesting, given the fact that most OEMs willfully ignore the aftermarket and tuner market beyond cursory show cars at SEMA
“As more Genesis Coupes have entered the pre-owned enthusiast market since its 2009 launch, we’ve witnessed strong interest in leveraging the low cost potential of this rear-drive platform and its powertrains for the tuner market and motorsports…Now, with our new crate engine program, Hyundai is making it more affordable for these same enthusiasts to modify their Genesis Coupe, or perhaps inject some high-value horsepower into other platforms.”
While engines like the Ford Coyote and Ecoboost motors and the Chevrolet LSx have cult followings in the aftermarket community, there is little in the sport compact market that is comparable, with the LSx itself being a darling of certain portions of the import community. Perhaps Hyundai is looking to corner that market with a non-American alternative.
Doesn’t Ford make the 2.0 turbo (aka ecoboost) engine for Kia (Hyundai?)
The turbo Theta shares parts with the Evo X.
I could have sworn I read that Ford actually manufactures/ships them the 2.0L block, not just some parts.
I’ve certainly never heard anything like that. I think Hyundai brought a 2.0T to market before Ford, at least in the US.
Maybe your thinking of Jaguar or Land Rover.
The Theta/Global Engine was some kind of convoluted joint venture between Hyundai, DaimlerChrysler and Mitsubishi. It had nothing to do with Ford. However Ford did license its 2.0-liter EcoBoost engine to Jaguar/Land Rover, along with plenty of other technology…
Nope, Hyundai’s theta 4 cylinders were co-developed with Chrysler and Mitsubishi under the name Global Engine Alliance. Ford had nothing to do with the development.
More like Hyundai doesn’t have anything to show at SEMA, but wait we could advertise this “crate engine” even though there is no aftermarket to control it.
They should offer their 10/100,000 mile warranty for it.
Tough to offer the 10/100 when you have no control over the ECU, cooling system, or drivetrain that will be connected to the engine.
Hyundai actually has quite a lot to show at SEMA, including a 1000 HP Genesis coupe.
Hyundai did show cars at SEMA, but an actual aftermarket product, especially something like a top tier 2.0 liter turbo engine, is better.
The engine is great for anything from a Se7en to an e30 BMW to a 240SX to a brick Volvo to an old 510.
The real point of SEMA is aftermarket products, not OEMs advertising their regular cars by putting them in stupid body kids and vinyl wraps.
Massive bonus points for anyone that finds an old RWD Hyundai Pony up in Canada and throws the 2.0 turbo in it.
while the turbo 4 has legs why would you want a $9,000 3.8 v8 that doesnt have much aftermarket
get an LS1 and a supercharger or turbo and go to town
also if you really wanted a turbo 4 wouldnt you just use a 4g63 or sr20 or…
There is something to be said for a new, warrantied, fully sorted turbo engine throwing down 274 HP and 275 LB-FT for $6K.
But I agree on the V6, it makes no sense, especially at $9K, which is at or above the cost of many crate V8s (Jalopnik for price references):
http://jalopnik.com/5959768/the-best-crate-motors-on-sale
Being DOHC I wonder if it has any weight or size advantage at all against a GM V8.
That something is “WTF is Ford doing wrong?”
The V6 should be around 4 inches shorter length than the LSx. I doubt it saves much else (height, width, weight).
I have some ideas where a V6 is a better option than a V8, but not for that price. IMO, its cost should be closer to the turbo’d 4.
I’m not certain how to view this. I’ve heard bad things about Hyundai’s new engines and transmissions. Despite the fact I like their cars, I’m not sure what their long-term reliability.
The NA Lamba and Theta are reliable, as is Hyundai’s 6 spd AT.
Now, the turbo versions may have issues with them, but that’s par for course for turbo powerplants (see Ford).
I have a Sedona with 3.8 V6 and the 5 Spd Auto, and at 110,000 miles both have been flawless so far.
Gotta start somewhere I suppose, Ford really wrote the playbook for this sort of stuff ( at least domestically ) with their FRPP program ( formerly SVO Performance Equipment ) offering everything from turn key racecars, hard to find or odd parts to Ford branded performance parts developed by big aftermarket companies.
If Hyundai is flush with cash and they are looking to increase or establish the Genesis Coupe in much the same way as Mustang or Camaro it might be worth the effort to go this route.
Crate engine program aside, it would be nice if Hyundai would make an affordably priced V8 Genesis Coupe or are import buyers so ingrained against V8 power that their is no market for such a car?
Right now, the 4.6-liter and 5.0-liter V8 engines don’t actually fit in the Genesis Coupe, not without lots of modification. However, I think that a lot of sales on the next Mustang are going to shift from the 5.0-liter Coyote to the 3.5-liter EcoBoost, prompting Hyundai to at least do a twin-turbo version of the 3.8-liter V6…
The next gen coupe will not compete against the pony cars but against the likes of the Infiniti Q60 and the Lexus RC.
Hyundai will probably stick to a twin-turbo V6 fot that tho if they launch a true performance sub-brand, they might stick in the Tau V8.
Why?
Think how many purists you could piss off if you started to do 3.8 or 2.0 turbo conversions on sacred 1940s American Iron? Ford sedan with 3.8 Hyundai power anyone? Chevy Customline with 2.0T Hyundai power? Oh the rage, the rage!!!!!
How much is an e-rod LS3 complete with CPU and harnesses?
1 camshaft, 16 valves = world beater
I would say that putting this turbo 4 into something like a Caterham would be pretty sweet, but I’m sure once Ford starts making 2.0 EcoBoost crate motors there will be a turbo Caterham.
That was my first thought as well. If the Hyundai turbo 4 is cheaper than the Ford it would make a goo Lotus 7 type power plant, or even a viable re-power option for 4 cylinder Morgans.
What are they currently using for the Plus 4? I know the Aero 8 (one of my favorite vehicles) uses the BMW N62 4.8-liter V8…
The Hyundai 2.0 Turbo would also be a great engine for anyone seeking to improve the power. torque and reliability of their F30 BMW 320i or 328i.
It’s originally from Mitsubishi. This is what happens when South Koreans fly engineers from Mitsubishi and/or Nissan Japan for a weekend of engineering secrets, hostess clubs and lots of booze…
Genesis coupe = kid cars.
Cars for kids that don’t know they can buy a similarly priced Mustang 5.0L or Camaro SS that does everything better and has much better aftermarket support, right off the bat.
I can honestly say I don’t think I’ve seen a Genesis owned by anyone over the age of 30.
They used to say the same thing about the 240Z. Now pristine examples of those rides (if you can find one, let alone one that hasn’t been modded) are snapped up very quickly by older buyers with 15 to 20K burning a hole in their pockets.
True, the same can be said about vintage Mustangs and Camaros. But back then those cars had little in the way of affordable off-shore competition and sold gobs, so if you want something of that vintage there’s few (if any) better options.
But the Mustangs and Camaros of modern times may or may not attain the ridiculously high prices and collector status as their predecessors did. There’s simply too much in the way of competition from present-day affordable Japanese, Korean and German manufacturers that today’s buyers will be nostalgic about in decades to come,—- assuming the electric car fad fades into history as the laws of physics command. And some of those competitors, like the Genesis, are rear-wheel drive.
I’m not sure Hyundai would be upset to hear that they’re “kid cars.” Aren’t a lot of automakers trying to get younger people (in their 20’s) into their cars and excited about their brands?
Great, now I have an idea of swapping in the turbo four and six speed manual out of a Veloster Turbo into my parents’ 2000 Elantra wagon or using this turbo engine and said transmission… A 13 year old compact grocery getter that weighs 3000 pounds with 300HP that could probably still get 30MPG, I’ll take it!!
(The “moral” here is, even if they only sell two of these crate engines, they’ve spawned plenty of ideas like this one).
Will the 2.0 turbo fit my wife’s Tucson?