Derek And Doug's Fantastic Crapwagons: Acura Integra Type-R

Derek writes:

Where do you find a clean, unmolested Integra Type-R in Toronto? In somebody else’s driveway.

The peculiarities of Canada’s auto market meant that modifying Hondas became one of the only avenues of affordable speed for young people. With a market size 1/10th of America’s, our choices are limited from the get-go. The most popular car, for years and years, has been the Honda Civic. So what do you get when a large percentage of car enthusiasts are able to buy cheap but well-maintained stick shift Civics? Well, for one thing, extraordinarily high rates of theft for both Civics and the better, VTEC equipped Hondas. One of the reasons I got my Miata in the first place is because any Civic, Integra, Prelude or Accord cost an outrageous amount to insure. An Integra GS-R would have been $330 a month versus $150 a month for my Miata (and that’s with no accidents or tickets).

It’s really easy to find a cheap Civic with a well-done VTEC swap, but that’s led to the virtual extinction of the Civic Si, the Integra GS-R and of course, the Integra Type-R. Anybody that still has a Type-R keeps theirs in a garage. Otherwise it will be stolen, crashed, or both. I was amazed that none of the cars I came across online had salvage or theft titles. Then again, I only found two.

Both are yellow, which is not my choice of color. Both have relatively low miles, but they go for between $12,500$14,500. Fair money for these cars, but more than I’d ever want to pay. I know that the Type-R chassis has extra welding and less sound deadening, and there’s the specialness of it being an original Type-R and all that, but knowing that I could have a better performing Integra sedan (which I prefer to the hatch) built for me, with my choice of engine (a B18C from a GS-R, mated to an LSD gearbox from a Japanese Integra), for half the cost, is too appealing to ignore. And it wouldn’t be yellow.

Doug writes:

There really aren’t any Integra Type Rs around here. Craigslist, for example, has precisely zero.

AutoTrader.com has just one. It’s black and it features a K20Z1 swap, which I hope is an engine. It also boasts – and I’m quoting from the ad here – “15×8 Rays Gramlight 57dr” as well as “dc2R red Recaros.” And ladies and gentlemen, you’re unlikely to find those ever again in one place, at least if you believe the seller. I personally have no idea what they are.

Anyway, this car is a 2000 with 75,000 miles and the seller is asking $16,000. If you’re questioning whether it’s worth it, don’t bother, as he lists right in the ad that it’s “worth every bit of what I’m asking.” Tough, but fair.

A stock example doesn’t show up until I expand my search radius to 500 miles. It’s a 2001 model in Virginia, yellow and beautiful. Mileage is at 115,000 and pricing is very reasonable at $12,000. This one is stunningly stock, right down to the shift knob, which looks like the top end of a screwdriver stuck in the shift boot.

The only problem with an ITR purchase, on my end, is that it comes with a huge bill: I’d have to spring for a garage. That’s because the ITR does three things: it looks good, it drives well, and it gets stolen. And I wouldn’t want to buy a new K20Z1 or dc2R red Recaros. I wouldn’t even know where to look.

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  • Power6 Power6 on Jun 21, 2013

    Oh Integra I have such a love hate relationship with you. The Type-R is such a wonderful machine for the track, and so damn miserable on the street. Not in the supercharged Mustang "too much to handle" sort of way more like the "you just got blown away by a Sienna" way that you need to be in 3rd gear in the freeway to get any sort of acceleration. It is a horribly cheap car with a $2 stereo you can't even hear over the interior roar. And you don't even get all the extra JDM goodness like Recaros. Great race car though. I traded my GS-R for an SRT-4 and the Dodge seemed like a Lexus built rocket ship compared to the Integra.

    • Land Ark Land Ark on Jun 22, 2013

      If I'm to believe everything I read in Super Street magazine in the late 90s, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. From that perspective, the Type-R was just a turned around NSX.

  • Sportyaccordy Sportyaccordy on Jun 21, 2013

    I want to buy a stock one and lock it in a bunker. I'm calling it now, collector status. We are maybe 2-3 decades away from the $100K ITR. And it won't have a K20

  • Grg These days, it is not only EVs that could be more affordable. All cars are becoming less affordable.When you look at the complexity of ICE cars vs EVs, you cannot help. but wonder if affordability will flip to EVs?
  • Varezhka Maybe the volume was not big enough to really matter anyways, but losing a “passenger car” for a mostly “light truck” line-up should help Subaru with their CAFE numbers too.
  • Varezhka For this category my car of choice would be the CX-50. But between the two cars listed I’d select the RAV4 over CR-V. I’ve always preferred NA over small turbos and for hybrids THS’ longer history shows in its refinement.
  • AZFelix I would suggest a variation on the 'fcuk, marry, kill' game using 'track, buy, lease' with three similar automotive selections.
  • Formula m For the gas versions I like the Honda CRV. Haven’t driven the hybrids yet.
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