By on June 12, 2012

 

Long commutes. Traffic. Inane articulations on the radio. Most folks see driving as little more than a chore in between all the fun things in life.

Auto enthusiasts pretend to be the exact opposite of this. But I’m not so sure. When it comes to getting that feeling of pure exhiliration on the road vs. enjoying the penurious plenitude of a frugal ride, many car guys tend to opt towards the cost side of the equation.

The love cars. But money takes precedence.

So imagine if you could enjoy zero transportation costs. No gas. No insurance. No purchasing costs, depreciation expense, ad valorem taxes, matinenance, repairs… not a single penny of expense.

Sounds good right, Well, here is the flip side of the deal.

Fun. It will never be in the cards. Never. Not so much as a single smile or a feeling of mild interest in the driving experience.

From now on your driving will consist of an appliance like machine that goes slow, has no radio, not even a steering wheel or pedals.

Just key in your destination, sit in the comfy chair, and wait for time to take it’s course.

You can’t even make a phone call or play with the features of the car… because none is to be had. To work properly your baggage has to be stored and your seat has to be in the upright position.

For the remaining years of your life all you have is this transportation advice. Nothing more. It will always work.

Would you pick this free ride that is purely no fun? Or would you choose fun rides that are anything but free?

 

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97 Comments on “Question Of The Day: Free Or Fun?...”


  • avatar
    fr88

    Forget it. The article describes the bus. Fine, if A-to-B is all you want or need, but give me a car.

    Not just any car, but one that excites and delights while approaching from 50 feet away. One that gives a little jolt of adrenalin when you fire it up, one that is a tactile, sensory joy while underway.

    Camry’s are fine if that is all you ask for or desire in life. Some of us insist on more. Life is too short to do otherwise.

    • 0 avatar
      Russycle

      You can make phone calls on a bus. Or read, or recline and snooze. Not sure what Lang is going for here. Would I rather drive or be bored out of my mind for hours at a time? Tough choice.

      Now if we’re talking about a googlebot-car, set it and forget it, relax and enjoy the ride, for free? Hell yes, sign me up. I like to drive, but I like to nap, read, play computer games, whatever.

      • 0 avatar
        DeadWeight

        I’ve submitted and surrendered.

        I just want a reliable, quiet, soft riding, fuel efficient and safe car, with minimal maintenance.

        Yes, it’s nice to appease the enthusiastic leanings most of us have, and to give into temptation, even with the much, much higher price-maintenance-insurance-fuel costs-time, while having much, much less practicality-relaxation-ease of use, etc., but after a while, the sacrifice is not worth it.

        Case in point; The 5.0 Mustang Jack Baruth just tracked. I love the sound of Ford’s coyote 5.0 and the capabilities (though I’m less enamored over its ever higher price creep, lack of IRS, lack of standard limited slip differential), but that’s a car that, unless one lives in a climate that rarely or never sees snow and has good, smooth roads, is a 6 month a year car (Mustangs don’t do snow well unlike some other rear wheel drive cars shod with winter shoes).

        So, you have to have two cars, two insurance payments, a place to store the Mustang, and an open wallet for a ton of other expenses associated with duel car ownership.

        At a certain point, unless one is uber wealthy (and even then, it makes little financial sense, which is what some people employ to get uber wealthy), it’s just not worth it, unless your tied into the industry or are very passionate about racing/tracking your car.

        I’m resigned to practicality and financial sense as I get older. Sport cars, boats, etc….all money pits.

    • 0 avatar
      mannygg

      Yeah, I don’t really understand the question either. Isn’t just describing a car-free lifestyle with free taxis (or public transport) as the mode of transportation?

      I did that for the last year and bought a car anyway. Not because I NEEDED one, but because I WANTED one. An M3. A fun car.

  • avatar
    Freddie

    You gotta have some fun every day, and taking a few choice , twisty freeway on/off ramps during my commute helps fill the quota.

    As a “car guy” I look to the automotive media to help me find the holy grail – a practical, economical car that is still a blast to drive.

  • avatar
    Cleatus

    Awe no “Chevy Malibu, because your dishwasher doesnt have wheels”? What a surprise on The “Truth” About Cars.

  • avatar
    krhodes1

    Fun every time. I love cars, and I love to drive. At this point in life a Camalticord would be the next thing to free, relatively speaking, but I spend the cash for a BMW and enjoy every minute behind the wheel. Life is too short.

  • avatar
    thesparrow

    It helps if you can have two cars – a Camry or Accord type for running errands, and a Miata or other sporty car for weekend or longer drives. If that isn’t an option then I personally would choose in favor of the more exciting car.

    But there are times and places when it is just no fun to drive, period. Especially nowadays when the roads are often choked with unskilled, rude, or drunk/distracted drivers. What ever happened to people taking pride in their own driving abilities?? And there is also something to be said for a vehicle that doesn’t require monthly trips to the repair shop.

    • 0 avatar
      carlisimo

      I used to drive the Miata to work and sometimes it would be a pretty lousy experience. Too much noise, especially road noise from trucks in the next lane over, too much heat, too much sun exposure, and very weak air conditioning.

      Now I take the train to work and drive the Miata during nights and weekends. It works out pretty well.

  • avatar
    APaGttH

    I would rather put a gun in my mouth and eat a bullet then sit in this contraption from Hell.

  • avatar
    replica

    Hmm. Never have to spend money on a car or car related things again. That would give me a whole lot of extra money to drink AND I wouldn’t have to worry about driving myself home.

    Going to have to think this one over.

  • avatar
    kvndoom

    No. Hell no. F–k no. I will take the car payment, insurance, gas, taxes, whatever. The journey, from Point A to Point B, is my only little slice of total freedom. I can play the stereo loud as I want, no one talking to me (unless it’s a call on Bluetooth)… I really do feel like I’m in my own world for that small chunk of time.

  • avatar

    But… but… but… Steve!!! After sex, driving is my favorite activity! My ’08 Civic 5-speed is my favorite possession. When I hit the gas the voice in my head says, “I love this car!”

  • avatar
    loj

    So essentially all my transportation needs would be met but I would never be able to drive a car again? Forever, to paraphrase the Purple One, is a mighty long time. I’m going to have to say no.

    Now I WILL argue that there’s no such thing as a boring car. There are some good ones and some bad ones, but there’s something interesting about every single one of them. And all things being equal, driving will always be more interesting than walking (sorry, Earth).

    • 0 avatar
      Ryoku75

      Agreed, its not what you drive as much as how.

      • 0 avatar
        golden2husky

        Very true. While a fun ride provides all the feedback, even a boring car driven fast has it’s plus side. Sometimes, in fact, you can have more fun because the risk is so much less. Let’s be honest: the limits of today’s performance cars are so high that leaving the road, usually sideways, has severe consequences. Slower cars with less capable suspensions can offer a lot of fun in a hooligan kind of manner. Sure, the better “slow” cars that understeer less are more enjoyable to drive than a plowing pig but even crappy cars have their place. The Free Module discussed by the OP is called the commuter railroad. It, too, has its place, considering this rainy commute home today was over two hours. My butt hasn’t hurt so much since I sat through Titanic.

  • avatar
    Mark MacInnis

    You are describing the experience of Google’s self driven car, which I imagine will be MANDATORY in 20 years.

    So, to echo an earlier poster. Hell, no. We need to get our car jollies while we can, because Barack and his successors are coming for our keys…

    • 0 avatar
      bball40dtw

      You’ll just have to keep a Red Barchetta at your farm…

    • 0 avatar
      200k-min

      Beat me to it, this is what Google is trying to do, and exactly what I want 100% of the other people on the road around me to have. 99% of the drivers on the road don’t want to be driving and instead are texting or doing something which is distracting them and making them a danger to me. The other 1% are usually hooning of some sort and a different kind of danger on the roads. Let a nanny take over the driving and we’d all be a lot safer.

      To be honest, I want this too for 99% of the driving I do. The time could be better spent sending emails or reading a book or accomplishing something productive. My commuter is a Honda and is quite bland, but I had a 3-series loaner for a week once…commuting in traffic it was no different from the Honda at 35mph in a straight line. It just burned a lot more gas.

      That said I do want my “Sunday driver” but not as a commuter. That’s where reliability and cost are king in my world.

      • 0 avatar
        30-mile fetch

        There’s an idea. Let’s get the majority who do not care or really want to drive into the Google drone pods and free up road space for the minority who would put it to use. There are days where I frankly would rather be in the Google pod myself, so I might as well get out of the way on those days.

    • 0 avatar
      TEXN3

      I think moving to Idaho becomes a better decision every year!

    • 0 avatar
      30-mile fetch

      “Barack and his successors are coming for our keys”

      Oh you poor martyr. You people thought Barack was coming for your guns too, and I know how that one turned out.

    • 0 avatar
      Sam P

      “Barack and his successors are coming for our keys…”

      Including Mitt Romney?

  • avatar
    bryanska

    In this game of Would You Rather…

    You have to remember that cars ARE appliances. It’s nice to have a fun car, but if all you want is fun, than a widened Caterham is always the answer. Otherwise cars are, holistically, a necessary evil.

    For the 99% of the time you are driving somewhere (versus driving nowhere: not getting out of the car), you are falling somewhere on the spectrum between fun and utility. For the overwhelming majority of the time you’re skewing drastically toward utility, with some fun to make things interesting. Car enthusiasts are trainspotters. Equipment junkies. Like cops who turn their issue guns into trick shooters, though they may never draw their weapon on duty. Our entire hobby would be rendered moot if driving were not mostly necessary.

    Think of it this way. If you never had to know the time, would you buy a Rolex just to admire the machinery? If you were very rich, would you show up to your same job and eat the same shit sandwich?

    If I never HAD to drive again, and I could just sit there, I would. If there was a city bus that went everywhere when I wanted it to, I’d never buy a car again. (As long as I can make phone calls or do something else. If it was just sitting there in silence, I’d “drive” at night or otherwise question the wisdom of “driving” at all.)

    I suppose if my financial situation was different my opinion would change. If I were saving 20% of my income and was otherwise satisfied, I might buy a Caterham for kicks.

    Don’t get the idea that I’m not a car guy. I certainly am. But no more than I enjoy my Toro mower, Snap On tools, or well-designed dishwasher. They make the tasks enjoyable.

    The question behind the OP’s question is: if there were no need for a car, would you buy one?

    You might as well ask: would you buy a boat?

    • 0 avatar
      jdowmiller

      Very well said! I suppose I consider myself a disillusioned enthusiast. Of all the cars I’ve owned, only one was even remotely fun – a Miata. I got rid of it when I had my first child and developed a heightened sense of responsibility. Everything else has been an exercise in maximal utility (read: utterly boring). I still pine for owning something fun again but things like money, traffic, safety and police always get in the way.

      Edit: one of my vehicles was the above-pictured Camry lol

  • avatar
    Acd

    I will gladly pay for something nice to sit in traffic in for my two hours of commuting each day. Just consider it the cost of doing business.

  • avatar
    toxicroach

    You could have a LOT of fun with the amount of money you spend on a car.

    $5000 in car payments.
    $2000 in fuel
    $100 oil changes
    $500 in taxes
    $500 in insurance or more
    $200 in assorted maintenance like brakes and tires
    _________
    A new Camry could easily cost you $8000 a year. That’s a good solid two week vacation in Hawaii every year right there. You save that for 18 years and you’ve got a two kids college educations in cash. Or a mortgage you aren’t sweating anymore. Or a well funded IRA.

    So yeah, I’d accept an appliance for that. You didn’t say I couldn’t have a motorcycle!

  • avatar
    Ralph SS

    Non sequitur. The choices you offer are either black or white. The world has been in color since the Wizard of Oz. I’m ready for my flying car.

  • avatar
    Mazda323

    My previous job used to give me a free bus pass. It was a nice, easy route to work. Only a few stops, and the bus (a shiny new model) was never crowded. On top of that, the city had just implemented a new toll on the road I would have to drive to work if I went in my car.

    I had to force myself to take that free, comfortable bus 1-2 days per week, just because it seemed so ridiculously stupid not to. The other 3 days I drove, and those were the good days.

  • avatar
    crm114

    So could I put my automotive savings towards motorcycles? I could do a lot with the amount of money I spend on my little fleet each year. I could get a pilot’s license and an old single over a fairly short timeline if I got rid of that $1,000/month or so. I love cars, but they’re so very, very expensive.

  • avatar
    eggsalad

    The premise makes no sense. Let’s say I want to go to London. I get in my pod, key in “London”, and have to sit there, doing nothing – no eating, no sleeping, for the some 140 hours it would take to get there at 60mph?

    Thanks, I’ll take a plane.

  • avatar
    Ryoku75

    I don’t want to say this, but thanks to the silly options of this question I cannot give a proper answer.

    A better question is “Would you buy a perfect but boring car? Or a super fun yet pricey super car?”.

    I’d buy the former.

    • 0 avatar
      Sam P

      “I’d buy the former.”

      If you like boring cars, why are you posting on a car enthusiast website?

      There are cars that manage to be reliable and entertaining. The Camry fails on the entertaining side of things. A Honda Accord offers Camry reliability with more joie de vivre on a curvy road, as do several other mid-size sedans from America, Europe, and Asia.

      • 0 avatar
        Ryoku75

        Being a car buff dosen’t mean that you have to buy something thats built for the race track or something that’ll run your bank account to repair.

        I used to buy fun stuff, but I got sick of fires, stalling in traffic, and consistent repairs.

        Plus, why should a plain FWD sedan be fun to drive? They’re meant to haul kids around. Go buy and FRS if you want something fun in the corners.

      • 0 avatar
        Sam P

        So front-wheel drive sedans should be boring to drive because they are also practical? That seems rather Puritan.

        There are a number of “fun” American and Asian cars built within the last 20 years that don’t constantly stall in traffic, break down, or catch on fire. Applying one’s bad experiences to all “fun” cars is a farce.

      • 0 avatar
        Ryoku75

        Hm, this has gone from a plain discussion to turning Ryoku into a shipping box via labels.

  • avatar
    Downtown Dan

    Why no love for the Camry? Smooth engine, accurate steering, nice ride, great cruiser. As John Phillips of Car and Driver once wrote, “There is more fine engineering in a single Camry than in all the Berlinettas Enzo Ferrari ever conjured up while lying next to mistresses.”

    I’ve said this before, and I’ll stand by it– the genuine auto enthusiast is not someone who likes interesting cars. The genuine auto enthusiast is someone who finds something interesting in every car.

  • avatar
    Syke

    The “can’t do anything while the pod is in motion” is the unrealistic part. Steve, I believe you deliberately put that in there just to influence the answers towards the result that you want to see (have you ever considered taking up polling as an career?). If I’m not stuck driving on a long trip, I’m certainly going to read, log in and go to work, or do something that keeps my mind interested. Or sleep. I’m incapable of just sitting like a mannequin.

    Now, a transportation pod that I don’t touch for a long trip sounds like heaven. Driving the interstates is boredom personified, no matter how lovely or interesting your car is.

    • 0 avatar
      Steven Lang

      LOL! No, I got the inspiration for this by traveling via plane 4 to 5 times a week for 2 years.

      • 0 avatar
        TEXN3

        I figured as much, I travel quite a bit and over the past year have chosen driving to project sites if it is within 700 miles. I stop and often find a place to fish and nap, get back in the pickup and go. Great way to get to Montana, especially since direct flights from Boise no longer exist.

  • avatar
    Volt 230

    My son traded in a 2008 Corolla that had been left to him by his grandma, boring, old people car, he called it, saved up to move up to something more “fun” exciting to drive, finally the FR-S is announced and he says: this is it, the car I really want I am trading in this geriatric, boring box on wheels, got his new FRS for more than he had figured, first week out, gets clobbered from behind by some idiot texting instead of driving, while the car is usable, it won’t be the same anymore, same week someone keys it and dents the drivers door with what appears to have been a closed fist. This “dream car” is turning out to be a nightmare, the other one was so common that no one noticed it no one hit it scratched it keyed it or punched it. Now he is unhappy for real.

    • 0 avatar
      JustinM

      What part of your son’s experience has anything to do with the car he bought? A Corolla can be rear-ended and vandalized just as easily. I don’t normally see sporty cars here with key scratches and dents, so it’s not like they’re being targeted en masse.

  • avatar
    mitchw

    Could you please repeat the question?

    (seriously though, I’m flummoxed)

  • avatar
    sgtyukon

    Fun ride. Years ago, a friend had a Plymouth Volare as a company car. After I drove it once, I told him I know free has a lot to recommend it, but if that were my company car, I’d never put any oil in it.

  • avatar
    stuntmonkey

    Restated – Would you rather have a fun car and pay for it or would you rather have a free car so that you can find happiness somewhere else… like paying down you or some of your medical bills.

    There are many priorities and satisfactions… the essence of the question is not about fun but about priorities. Imagine if the question was, “Would you rather have a boring free house in Queens or would you rather pay through the nose for a condo on Manhattan?”

    • 0 avatar
      kvndoom

      But the free car has to have no soul whatsoever. You’d have to think of “the one car I wouldn’t be caught dead in” and say that you’d drive it for free. For every person that’s a different car.

    • 0 avatar
      ajla

      But Steve isn’t talking about a free “boring” car. He is describing a box with a single chair in it. You sit in and you have to just stare at the wall (does the appliance have windows?) until you show up where you wanted to go.

      To me, it’s more like “would you rather pay for a house or have a free hyperbaric sleeping chamber that’ll always be available?”

  • avatar
    Zykotec

    Yes, I would definitely pay to not be tortured every day.
    And I do.
    I even pay extra to have a potentially less boring car standing around waiting for me to ‘have fun’ rebuilding it :)

  • avatar
    el scotto

    Toyotas seem to be the number one choice for those between 60 and dead; or a Lexus if they’re rich. They all think that driving 10 miles an hour below the speed limit will make their cars last forever. Yes I respect Toyota’s engineering prowess and I hopefully will hit the between 60 and dead ages sometime.

  • avatar
    Sinistermisterman

    If I had to totally give up cars then no, I would not accept a stress free, cost free ride in a pod. If riding in the pod meant sharing it with other members of that swirling, smelly, opinionated, irritating mass of people called humanity then no, I would not give up my car.
    In fact, no, never. You’ll have to pry my ignition key out of my cold, dead hand.
    I don’t care if it costs money, I don’t care if it upsets someone with dreadlocks and hemp based clothing, I don’t care if it breaks down or causes me grief from time to time, it’s my little piece of freedom, boring to drive or not. It takes me where no public transit will ever go, and it sometimes gives me joy doing it. I’d rather have costly, temperamental and fun over reliable, grey and sensory numbing any day.

  • avatar
    ajla

    The only reason I even have a job is so I can spend money on transportation.

  • avatar
    Mark_MB750M

    So far there’s been a Rush reference and an Airplane! quote – I’m liking this thread.

    Not sure about the question, though. If taking the pod doesn’t prohibit me from having some other motorized tranport at my own expense (motorcycle), then I think I would take it. the time and money savings are probably worth it.

  • avatar
    sadicnd

    A Camry is actually quite a comfortable car just for highway duties.

    And Steve, I can’t deal with your last few constraints: “You can’t even make a phone call or play with the features of the car”. If my commute were 5 minutes, then ya, sure. Otherwise, bring out a real Car.

  • avatar
    Dave W

    Hell yes I’ll take it for commuting.

    That being said when I’m looking for driving fun it most definitely
    is not about transportation, rather it is about entertainment. Having transportation chores taken care of would allow me to have a car for recreational driving that need not make any concessions to day to day practicality.

  • avatar
    Maymar

    I already drive my fiancee’s Hyundai Accent since it’s paid off, so we can save up for a house. If I could save what minimal costs I have, I’d gladly take the pod – except for being able to hustle around onramps far quicker than it should be able to, the Accent’s absolutely no fun.

  • avatar
    Geekcarlover

    The idea of me and my neighbors going to the end of the street and getting in our pods to be whisked away reminds me of the grey soulless faces in Fritz Lang’s METROPOLIS. Marching off to the elevators, to be delivered today, just as they were yesterday, and will be tomorrow.
    Though I’ve owned a roadster and two muscle cars, I tend towards the practical end of the spectrum. But in my over 30 years of driving, I’ve almost always owned a motorcycle. I could rationalize the efficiency and low cost per mile. Or that I can always find a parking space. In fact, from my smallest Kawasaki to my largest BMW, I ride for one reason. IT’S FUN! I just can’t image any reason to give that up.

    • 0 avatar
      NMGOM

      Geekcarlover….

      I think you hit upon one very important point. The effect on the human psyche from not piloting your own vehicle, your own ride, when you could do so, may reduce invigoration in life, even if driving your own car is an irritation, inconvenience, or large expense. (Taking public transportation is different: you can’t drive your own train and already consign your attention to doing other things of life, such as talking, playing a game, reading, cross-words, etc. Think of the 2-hour commute from central Jersey (say Trenton) to NYC.)

      To be in a road pod is to be numb, to some degree. And perhaps even dumb. What I am suggesting is that the “sparkle” of driving discomfort and/or excitement may actually feed our creativity, individualism, sense of control, and feeling of freedom. Don’t expect a society of “Pod People” to strive, to excel, to think out of the box, to want to explore. The forced removal or reduction of individual driving options may generate a placid society that depends more on “Big Brother” to do everything. This is especially fearful for Americans, for whom the automobile is bound tightly with our identity, mobility, and free choices.

      I own 4 vehicles: 2 pick-ups and two sports cars. All RWD; all manual transmissions. Are there times when each of them has been a pain in the neck under some circumstances? Yes. At any given moment during siting in traffic, would I have fleetingly yearned for a 1966 Lincoln Continental to anesthetize my drive? Yes.

      But, would I ever give up those types of vehicles, regardless of any cost saving? NO, and not just no, but Hell NO. Why? I need the “inconvenience” and “discomfort”. Life without that is not life, whose positives have no negatives to reference against. I want to get to work grumpy some days, and I want to get to work elated other days. Removing that is like telling a New Hampshire resident that he can no longer “Live Free or Die”.

      ———-

  • avatar
    S1L1SC

    There is a component missing – if I could read, listen to music, etc. then I would choose the self-driving car in a heartbeat. There are always go-karts, roller coasters and motorcycles.

    They way you phrased it though, I will go with a regular car.

  • avatar
    Zackman

    Man, that hurts, and after reading that, I realized that I LOVE Big Brother…but I digress…

    It’s called taking the train – no – taking the bus – no – taking the Star Trek transporter.

    Look, I have a 100-mile-a-day commute, fortunately, it’s mostly highway against the flow of traffic. It takes me 50 minutes, the same as many days southbound on I-75 into Cincinnati for 21 miles up to last August.

    These mornings, when it’s light enough, I can relax a bit, contemplate my day, radio/CD turned OFF and I listen to the car, the engine, the tires. It’s become quite relaxing except for the adjustments I’ve (and wifey) had to make to make this work, as I’m not a young man anymore. Many in my company are in the same boat, too.

    If I had my ‘druthers, I’d drive a Corvette, hands-down. It’s always been my dream car. I’m hamstrung by gas mileage however – my 2004 Impala has been averaging 32 mpg and I want more, it’s getting old, too.

    Speaking of old, I’m 61 and who’s gonna hire me somewhere near my home? “Welcome to Wal-Mart” is NOT part of my vocabulary…

    If I had the resources, I’d have that ‘Vette. Reality stinks, though, so me and my long-paid-for, 101K Impala continue truckin’ on…

  • avatar
    jonnyguitar

    In college, my first major was geography. Some of the more theoretical courses included material which said that basically all settlements at some point in the future wod be based upon rail transit. I think that’s probably true, but in the meantime i will be keeping my sports cars, thanks.

  • avatar
    Andy D

    My company allows us to home garage our work vans. Free gas, insurance etc. The only caveat is to not use it for personal use. Latest is a Ford Transit Connect. A FWD econo-box. I average about 250 miles a day in it. GPS and a 800 number keep down the hoonage. When I can, I use secondary roads. Better scenery going slower past the windshield. AM/FM CD is mostly used for Books on CD when conditions permit. The radio is off a great deal of time whilst I concentrate on navigating with a road atlas. I have a TOM Tom,but using the maps helps me learn the area better.

  • avatar
    Sam P

    I use mass transit to commute to work, as does my wife.

    We could probably go down to 1 car or carless with Zipcar memberships, but we have a BMW E46 sedan and an R56 Mini Cooper for errands, road trips, and fun.

    So I’ve already voted with my wallet – I’m keeping a car around when I could go carless. I like being able to go places in a fun car that will hit 150 with the speed limiter removed and has six gears on the floor. Repairs & insurance aren’t too bad either, considering I drive maybe 5-7k miles per year.

  • avatar
    daveainchina

    At first I thought he was talking about autonomous cars. Then I read the part about seat in the upright position etc. and Thought of airplane.

    Then I read the comments, bus being the first one, then I thought trains also.

    And now, I’m thinking for “safety” reasons, autonomous cars won’t move until things are stored properly and your seat is in an upright “safe” position.

    Anyway, I’ll pass on all of them and go for fun. Sometimes you can’t put a price on your state of mind.

  • avatar
    oldyak

    Realistically how much TIME do you enjoy your car?
    With today’s time constraints of sitting in traffic or dodging errant drivers back and forth to work I think most of us enjoy caring for our rides than actually enjoy driving them!
    Having a car to blast around on the weekends would be the perfect solution…If we had time to do that!
    After the yard work,taking the kids to their ball games,grocery shopping,a stop by Home Depot for a few things…etc..etc..etc…
    you know what I mean?
    I love my Bimmers….But enjoying them for what they can do….is another thing!

  • avatar
    05lgt

    I could not abide an appliance if I could afford the choice. I’m with some of the above posters in wishing some of the text happy roving hazards would just ride the bleeping bus they deserve, but knowing the joy of being actively involved in driving means never being satisfied with less.

  • avatar
    jerseydevil

    My answer is Yes. And except for the comfortable seat and the door to door convenience, it would be buses that i take alot. I wish busses were more comfortable and were more convenient. Then I could use a car for only fun, the way it supposed to be. Commuting is a harrowing business for me, with lots of people determined to be obnoxious on the crouded highway. I would avoid that, and I do when I can.

  • avatar
    Thinx

    That sounds like the kind of vehicle the Department of Transportation would be happy to provide, at taxpayer expense.

    While neither is free, I already have a boring Prius for commuting to work, and a nice car for weekends (or on occasions when I need to show up in something more befitting the expectations of petty-minded people who think the car someone drives says something else about them).

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    nickoo

    I would take the ride if it were something similar to a train ride. I love driving, but being able to use that time for other priorities is awesome. If it were like an airplane ride, forget about it.

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    dgb100

    Nope, sorry. Driving is fun. Even driving to work. Sometimes on a Friday commute I may even light up a teen ager in a fart box just for SNGs. I know 40+ year olds should not do this, but I don’t care… just as long as no one I know is watching. :)

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    bikegoesbaa

    I’d take fun.

    Spending disposable income on an enjoyable car is no different than spending it on any other non-essential item. Is a $10k vacation in Hawaii an inherently better use of money than a used $10k Miata? At least the Miata can be sold a year later for something, with the vacation you may as well just burn the cash for all you can get it back.

    I know plenty of people who spend substantial sums of money on their children. Don’t they know that nobody actually *needs* a child, and they could spend that instead on vacations and mortgages and whatnot.

    I’d be interested to hear how vacations and children make sense under the same “strict bookkeeping with minimal expenses” approach that so many people here espouse when it comes to cars.

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    C P

    Funny this topic came up on TAC. I was debating on weather or not to take my 01 camry to Florida this year or leave it & take my 03 miata. Still haven’t decided. I haven’t read all the posts yet either. But Florida is not the same as the NE when it comes to roads or miatas. And my camry is an automatic.

    But I purchased my miata last year & I’d like to take it w/ me at least one year to see if I’d want to do it again.. 1200 mile drive each way. Camry has 188k miles on it & has been super reliable. I’m a former tech so I stay on top of them. Miata has only 53k. Don’t really want to blow the money on shipping the 2nd car. Gotta pick one.

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