Piston Slap: Dumping Your 9-5? 10-4 on That!
Curt writes:
Sajeev,
I’m looking for some Saab selling advice. A couple of years ago I convinced my girlfriend that she would love the functionality and performance of a 2002 Saab 9-5 turbo wagon (5-spd)… perhaps in some small part because I wanted one myself. As she fell in love with the Saab I grew to hate its constant need for attention and respect its ability to find new and creative ways to fail.
Now that I convinced her to upgrade to a 2009 Jetta TDI wagon, I have to figure out how to unload the Saab. The problem is, aside from some typical small problems, this car has an emissions leak (causing a check engine light) and needs a Direct ignition Cassette, (currently preventing full boost mode). I’ve devoted a lot of weekends to this car so most of the gadgets work and it looks great, but I figure no one will touch it with the current problems… Because I wouldn’t.
My question: is it worth the money to invest another $200 – $300 for the DI cassette, which *should* solve the lack of boost? And how much should I be asking/expecting on the open market? It now has 120K miles and will be sold with the evap leak because fixing requires dropping the fuel tank and that aint gonna happen. To make things slightly worse, we live in a town that requires emissions compliance before allowing vehicle registration, so the new owner has that to look forward to.
Oh yeah, the sooner you can weigh in on this, the better, as the new (used) Jetta is already in our garage and the Saab needs to be gone ASAP.
Thanks,
Sajeev answers:
As a Lincoln-Mercury fanboi with no brand-honest prospects in the (near?) future, it pains me to see a turbo, stick, SAAB wagon in search of a new owner. But you couldn’t pay me to own it, either. You need money, plenty of time on the forums, or a very worthwhile SAAB independent mechanic to make that beastie worth owning. Tragic.
So should you spend the money to fix that check engine light, so it will pass emissions? Yes, unless the cost spirals out of control. Your $300 budget sounds totally worth it, except you have no interest in fixing that leaking evap emissions thing. Therefore the light will stay on, emissions won’t be passed, value plummets. So let’s run some numbers.
Taking a wild guess at your 9-5’s options and overall condition via Edmund’s appraisal tool, I’d say you’d be lucky to get more than $4500 on a private party sale, and good luck getting over $3000 on trade-in/wholesale. This is assuming you clear all engine codes and the rest of the SAAB is good for an inspection. And assuming you remain a resident of a fly-over state, not one of those SAAB friendly places on the coast.
The SAAB’s transaction price if you don’t clear the codes? I donno…and maybe who cares? At what point does a loss of 500-2000 dollars really hurt you? Is time more valuable than money? Are you on the fast track to a promotion, bonus, etc? I’d recommend going to a few dealers and seeing their cash offers. If you leave infuriated, well, maybe you should fix that heap so it will pass the emissions test for the next owner. If you kinda shrug it off, just dump it on craigslist for a little more than the dealer’s offer…fingers crossed on that.
Perhaps you should make a friend in California? Or Oregon? Massachusetts? You see my point.
Oh and by the way, I’d sincerely recommend an extended warranty for that Jetta. But you probably already knew that.
Send your queries to sajeev@thetruthaboutcars.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry.More by Sajeev Mehta
Latest Car Reviews
Read moreLatest Product Reviews
Read moreRecent Comments
- Bruce Purchased (in 2024) a 1989 Camero RS. I wasn't looking for one but I picked it up for 1500. I wanted to only pay 800 but the fellow I bought it from had a real nice family and I could tell they loved each other. They needed the money and I had to give it to him. I felt my heart grow like the Grinch. Yes it has the little 2.8. But the write up does not represent this car. It has never been messed with, all original, a real time machine. I was very fond of these 3rd gen Cameros. It was very oxidized but straight, interior was dirty but all there. I just retired and I parked in my shop and looked at it for 5 months. I couldn't decide how to approach it now That I can afford to make of it what ever I want. Resto mod? Engine swap? No reason to expect any finacial return. Finally I started just doing little things. Buffed and polished the paint. Tune up, Fluids. I am still working it and have found a lot of joy in just restoring what I have just the way I found it just fixed and cleaned up. It's just a cool looking cruiser, fun to drive, fun to figure out. It is what it is. I am keeping it and the author of this critical write up completely misses the point. Mabey the point is what I make it. Nothing more and nothing less.
- George Now that the Spark And Pretty Soon Gone is the Mirage I really wonder how are you going to get A low rental price when getting a loaner car for the week or more? Cars that are big as spark usually cost 5 to 10 dollars a day for use in a week rental agreement.Where as a SUV like a Equinox or a Rogue Midsize SUV would cost about 20 to 30 dollars for the same length of time of lease and since you’re getting more space leasing is going to be very expensive.
- Mcs Tesla Full Self Driving will be working flawlessly about 10 years after fusion reactors are perfected. That's my prediction and I'm sticking to it.
- Akear American consumers have clearly stated they don't want neither rebadged Alfa Romeos or Fiats. The hornet is over stocked for nearly 400 days!
- FreedMike I do tip my cap to Musk for at least talking about pushing the edge technologically. But I'm betting no on this question, at least for the near-term future. This vehicle requires two technologies - no-driver-control autonomous driving and inductive charging - that aren't nearly mature enough right now, and they can't be willed into maturity by Musk.
Comments
Join the conversation
I own an '02 9-5 2.3t wagon. It has over 200000km's on it and other then replacing a power window switch, a starter and turbo it has needed nothing. It has been one of my most reliable vehicles. For someone who has some moderate DIY skills, it is very easy car to do your own maintenance on.
As a former VW owner and currently a SAAB owned I say you are Nucking Futz if you're replacing the 9-5 with a Jetta. As much as I loved my VWs, they brought me nothing but headaches and lots of money lost. Currently I own three SAABs (1987 900i, 1995 900 Turbo, 2000 9-5 Aero Wagon) that are extremely reliable and very easy to work on. As a mechanic I feel SAABs are easier to work on than VWs. I say replace the DIC, drop the tank and fix the EVAP (easy to do if the tank is near empty), and if you want to sell the 9-5 that bad, do it after fixing those items. Then buy something else other than a Jetta, unless you really love to keep paying for repairs.