Ask The Best & Brightest: Should CNG/Hybrid/Whatever Cars Have Access To Carpool Lanes?

Jack Baruth
by Jack Baruth

This list, published by the State of California, lists the vehicles which will be eligible for unlimited carpool-lane access from now until January 1, 2015. Sharp-eyed TTAC readers will notice that there is just one readily-available, non-battery-powered, car-form-factor vehicle on the list: the Honda Civic GX.

If you’re interested in cutting your Cali commute time without plugging into a “charging station”, and you like Civics, this is good news. If you’re a Civic GX owner looking to sell, it’s even better news. If you have a new Toyota Prius, this is probably frustrating news.

The rest of us will probably have just one question: What does natural gas have to do with carpooling?

The idea behind carpool lanes is simple: they reward people who choose to reduce the number of vehicles on the freeway by offering those people exclusive access to a less-crowded lane. They also offer all my non-PC friends in Houston a chance to make jokes about being “HOV positive”. So far, so good, and most of the drivers with whom I’ve spoken have no fundamental issue with them.

Naturally, this relatively placid state of affairs can’t be permitted to continue in California, not when there’s a chance to put some eco-wackiness and traditional coastal elitism in the mix. In the early stages of Prius hysteria, 85,000 hybrids were permitted HOV lane access; that access expires this month.

The new super-citizens of the public roadway are expensive vehicles such as the Tesla Roadster and limited-production efforts like the Nissan Leaf. The Civic GX is probably your cheapest way into the carpool lane — short of, you know, actually carpooling.

Why are “intrinisically low emission vehicles” rewarded with a shorter commute? Since they pollute the Gaia less, shouldn’t they be forced to wait in traffic while the GMC Sierra 3500HD Vortecs of the world whiz by? That would be better for the environment, right?

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  • Nikita Nikita on Jul 21, 2011

    Back OT, sort of. We just sold a two year old 50,000 mile Civic GX for the same price we paid for it new. It is a California "White sticker" car. As it turns out, the HOV lanes on the Harbor (I-110) and parts of the I-10 freeways in Los Angeles are being converted to toll lanes anyway. OT, doesnt the ass end of the new Civic look a lot like the last generation Camry?

  • Steve65 Steve65 on Jul 21, 2011

    All of these "it should be the MORE polluting vehicles allowed in" comments completely miss the point. The added incentive is not about the HOV lane use, it's about incentivizing the adoption of these vehicle for general use. Most of the people I know don't have a car solely for commuting. They have a car. They use it every day. They use it for every need, not just getting to work. If they've been incentivied to buy a cleaner and more fuel-efficient car by an HOV perk, then that vehicle has less overall negative impact than the less-efficient car they might otherwise have bought. THAT'S the purpose of the HOV exception. To get alt fuel/Hybrid/Electric/clean into general use, replacing older less efficient cars. And why the incentive is generally offered for a fixed time period, or to a fixed number of users, or both.

  • Bkojote Allright, actual person who knows trucks here, the article gets it a bit wrong.First off, the Maverick is not at all comparable to a Tacoma just because they're both Hybrids. Or lemme be blunt, the butch-est non-hybrid Maverick Tremor is suitable for 2/10 difficulty trails, a Trailhunter is for about 5/10 or maybe 6/10, just about the upper end of any stock vehicle you're buying from the factory. Aside from a Sasquatch Bronco or Rubicon Jeep Wrangler you're looking at something you're towing back if you want more capability (or perhaps something you /wish/ you were towing back.)Now, where the real world difference should play out is on the trail, where a lot of low speed crawling usually saps efficiency, especially when loaded to the gills. Real world MPG from a 4Runner is about 12-13mpg, So if this loaded-with-overlander-catalog Trailhunter is still pulling in the 20's - or even 18-19, that's a massive improvement.
  • Lou_BC "That’s expensive for a midsize pickup" All of the "offroad" midsize trucks fall in that 65k USD range. The ZR2 is probably the cheapest ( without Bison option).
  • Lou_BC There are a few in my town. They come out on sunny days. I'd rather spend $29k on a square body Chevy
  • Lou_BC I had a 2010 Ford F150 and 2010 Toyota Sienna. The F150 went through 3 sets of brakes and Sienna 2 sets. Similar mileage and 10 year span.4 sets tires on F150. Truck needed a set of rear shocks and front axle seals. The solenoid in the T-case was replaced under warranty. I replaced a "blend door motor" on heater. Sienna needed a water pump and heater blower both on warranty. One TSB then recall on spare tire cable. Has a limp mode due to an engine sensor failure. At 11 years old I had to replace clutch pack in rear diff F150. My ZR2 diesel at 55,000 km. Needs new tires. Duratrac's worn and chewed up. Needed front end alignment (1st time ever on any truck I've owned).Rear brakes worn out. Left pads were to metal. Chevy rear brakes don't like offroad. Weird "inside out" dents in a few spots rear fenders. Typically GM can't really build an offroad truck issue. They won't warranty. Has fender-well liners. Tore off one rear shock protector. Was cheaper to order from GM warehouse through parts supplier than through Chevy dealer. Lots of squeaks and rattles. Infotainment has crashed a few times. Seat heater modual was on recall. One of those post sale retrofit.Local dealer is horrific. If my son can't service or repair it, I'll drive 120 km to the next town. 1st and last Chevy. Love the drivetrain and suspension. Fit and finish mediocre. Dealer sucks.
  • MaintenanceCosts You expect everything on Amazon and eBay to be fake, but it's a shame to see fake stuff on Summit Racing. Glad they pulled it.
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