Auction Monday: Carmax

Steven Lang
by Steven Lang

Some folks say that stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Well, those folks have never been to an auto auction. Today we had over 95 dealers doing the same thing over and over again. Looking at a vehicle. Bidding it up to the nether-regions. Hoping that profit will come back via retail or buy here pay-here. Carmax has cutthroat middle-fingered competition at their dealer auctions and the prices reflect the screwing mentality that will likely be passed onto the bad credit consumer.

15 year old Explorers? $3000. A 14 year old stick-shift Subaru Impreza that came from the rust belt? $2900. Both of these vehicles were in clean condition… which means they are finance fodder at the buy-here pay-here dealerships.

The Explorer will likely be financed at around the $6k range when all the payments are said and done. The Subaru on the other hand? I don’t know what to make of it. I think the Latino BHPH dealer will find a willing customer who may finance it close to $6k.

You would be surprised how low that $6k balance can be if you spread it over a 24 month period. About $55 to $60 a week for what amounts to run of the mill transportation.

Then again, it can be even lower if you set it up for a 5 year run. The market for low mileage vehicles is just ridiculous. The Subaru in this case had 77k, which means that it can still make a healthy car note in rust-free Atlanta. But let’s look at the higher end side of the world and see if the air is any thinner up there.

2011 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (2dr, Manual) $27,200

2007 Land Rover Range Rover Sport HSE $31,800

2007 Chevy Suburban 1500 LTZ 5.3L V8 4WD $23,000

2004 Dodge Viper Convertible SRT (67k ) $34,400

The buyer for the Wrangler will likely have around $28k in it once you add in the buyer fee and the Ebay fee. Will he get it? I don’t know. But it only had 3460 miles and looked mint. The stickshift puts it back a bit but the miles are excellent. We’ll see.

The Land Rover went to an exporter (surprise?). The Suburban was a dogfight between two dealers from North Georgia. It still went for $1000 below average wholesale which also happened to be right where the condition was on the vehicle. Overall this was a decent buy during tax season but definitely not something you want to hold since it had 71,000 miles.

The Viper is more of a curiosity than anything else. Given that a silver 04’ with half the miles no-saled on Ebay recently, I’m not too sure that the buyer will make an easy buck on it. I hope he already had a buyer on the hook.

One other item for those still looking for an older low mileage car. The going wholesale price (before fee) of an 11 year old Buick LeSabre with 72k and leather is $5000 according to one dealer at the sale. I’m sure Carmax rang up a $2000 profit on that one within a week. The dealer on the other hand may be able to double that profit. But it will probably take about 3 years and a small bit of luck to make that so.

About a third of finance dealers at the BHPH dealerships go south. Sometimes you get back a good car. Much of the time the cost in repo, repair and recon will average around $800. I’m lucky in that the very few I’ve had to get back this year are voluntary and still in good running condition.

There is an old saying in this business that, “You sell in February and repo in July.” I’m hoping that I can make this year hassle-free for everyone concerned. Now that the majority of my deals are finally cash again, I’m planning for a lot less headaches.



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  • Obbop Obbop on May 17, 2011

    Do unto others before they can do unto you?

  • Tankinbeans Tankinbeans on May 17, 2011

    I must either be incredibly lucky, or incredibly stupid. I've been working to build my credit since I turned 18. I had a cosigner when I graduated, the loan was my graduation gift (something I wouldn't have been able to get otherwise) and I have not been more than a month late with any of my debts. When I bought my current car I managed to get out with a 7.5% loan for 72 months. I know that 72 month loans are something to stay away from, but the payments are doable and I like the car. I would never buy from a BHPH because of my mother's bad experience (see above). I just hope that I can maintain and learn as many positive lessons from those around me so that I can stop circling the shark-infested pond of indebtedness. I've learned at the tender age of 22 that debt sucks and I hope in the future the only debt that I need is the debt to buy a house. Of course I have some debt now that I'm working to pay down.

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    • Obbop Obbop on May 18, 2011

      @Sinistermisterman "...I’ll have the car paid off by the end of the year." Yay!!!!!!!!!

  • El scotto Under NAFTA II or the USMCA basically the US and Canada do all the designing, planning, and high tech work and high skilled work. Mexico does all the medium-skilled work.Your favorite vehicle that has an Assembled in Mexico label may actually cross the border several times. High tech stuff is installed in the US, medium tech stuff gets done in Mexico, then the vehicle goes back across the border for more high tech stuff the back to Mexico for some nuts n bolts stuff.All of the vehicle manufacturers pass parts and vehicles between factories and countries. It's thought out, it's planned, it's coordinated and they all do it.Northern Mexico consists of a few big towns controlled by a few families. Those families already have deals with Texan and American companies that can truck their products back and forth over the border. The Chinese are the last to show up at the party. They're getting the worst land, the worst factories, and the worst employees. All the good stuff and people have been taken care of in the above paragraph.Lastly, the Chinese will have to make their parts in Mexico or the US or Canada. If not, they have to pay tariffs. High tariffs. It's all for one and one for all under the USMCA.Now evil El Scotto is thinking of the fusion of Chinese and Mexican cuisine and some darn good beer.
  • FreedMike I care SO deeply!
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  • KOKing Unless you're an employee (or even if you are) does anyone care where physically any company is headquartered? Until I saw this story pop up, I'd forgotten that GM used to be in the 'Cadillac Building' until whenever it was they moved into RenCen (and that RenCen wasn't even built for GM). It's not like GM moved to Bermuda or something for a tax shelter (and I dunno maybe they ARE incorporated there legally?)
  • Fred It just makes me question GM's management. Do they save rent money? What about the cost of the move? Don't forget they have to change addresses on their forms. New phone numbers? Lost hours?
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