Piston Slap: Mo Money, Mo ...Panther Love?

Sajeev Mehta
by Sajeev Mehta

TTAC’s twitter friend, Ethan, writes:

Hi Sajeev,

You probably remember my original query but this indecision is compounded by my second problem: I love the aforementioned Volvo, but with 185K ticking past on the odometer, the steering rack and other things are letting go.

The two cars I am looking at to replace it are both 2002 Ford Crown Victorias (yeah I’m giving up a little Panther love) priced at $3500, one is loaded with all the options with 120k miles and upon visual and driving inspection is clean. The other Panther is a Police Interceptor that was owned by a local mechanic, is very clean (and it doesn’t have the searchlight on the drivers side door), but needs a little paint. Which of the two would you prefer? And what would you suggest would be good options to make it a better driving and handling ride? I know you give love to the Panthers so I’m sure you know more than me on what to do.

And a follow up: some people tend to be extremely bold with their slightly stinging words about my letter to you and Steve. I regret not including this in the letter, but I have worked very hard most of my young life just to have the cars I own now. No handouts. With me trying not to tell you how much money was left to me, I did pay my parents’ mortgage off, made a nice donation to each of my favorite charities, stayed in school, and made life better for others as I saw fit.

Only one person–other than you and your readers at TTAC–knows I have this money and I plan on keeping it that way.

Sajeev answers:

This isn’t Jalopnik or Autoblog: TTAC solicits questions from our readers, and we get letters from real people back. Far from a perfect system, but we’ve expected respectable discourse from day one. While TTAC’s writers are guilty of baiting the conversation (insert sensationalistic media remark here) nobody’s really taken it to this extreme, until Ethan came along. Come on people, grow up.

Back to Panthers: while I love CVPI’s (i.e. cop cars), their interiors are too boring for most. The solution is doing significant interior/electronic swappage from a crusher-bound Panther. Awesome and worthwhile, but I suspect most are better with a civilian model, tricking it out with aftermarket performance bits: Bilstein shocks, Marauder sway bars, any number of aftermarket 17” wheels, a decent stereo and an SCT tune. So what’s the verdict?

Neither. Ethan should wait for a 2003-up model, or find one from the days of Dearborn’s honorable bean counting. The 2003+’s are so much better under the skin (hydroformed this, aluminum that, big brakes, etc) they might as well be a different platform, almost. And the pre-1998s are, quite frankly, a true Ford flagship in the Detroit tradition. If Eminem did a cheerleading bit for Super Bowl XXVI, the wind tunnel tuned, be-windowed and de-grilled silhouette of the 1992 Ford Crown Victoria would set the boob-tube on fire. Even today, it makes way more sense than that star crossed, aesthetically challenged Chrysler 200.

Because, when you import something from Detroit, you indirectly endorse Panther Love.

Send your queries to mehta@ttac.com. Spare no details and ask for a speedy resolution if you’re in a hurry.

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  • Bryce Chessum Bryce Chessum on Mar 21, 2011

    Why any one with a credit rating or cash would buy a POS like these is beyond me creaking groaning BOF build no steering zero handling basicly a 56 Customline built in 2006 These and their ilk are the reason American cars are a world wide joke sure cars like Camaros Mustangs etc have a following all over, but garbage like CVs nobody makes cars this bad not since the 60s.

  • Chris DeMorro Chris DeMorro on Mar 22, 2011

    Love the Panthers, but buying one right now doesn't seem to make much sense for the writer of our letter, unless I am missing something. With gas prices inching towards $4 a gallon, you're talking about a car that, tops, gets 28 mpg on the highway, which admittedly isn't bad for a huge V8 RWD sedan. But does he really need four doors, a V8, and in a vehicle the size of a boat? If he has "a little bit of money" then why limit your budget to just $3500? A $3500 car is more likely than not going to have issues, some more serious than others, even if it is "mechanic maintained" (btw I've met more than a few lazy hacks that call themselves mechanics.) The only Panther platform car I'd consider, right now, if I had the money, would be a Mercury Marauder. Sweet car and it stands out without being a "LOOK AT ME I'M HERE" car. Crown Vic's are cool cars, but I wouldn't want to have to fill that gas tank these days. I think Ethan needs to take a step back and decide first what he NEEDS in a car, and then what he WANTS in a car, because we really seem to be all over the place here.

  • Rna65689660 For such a flat surface, why not get smoke tint, Rtint or Rvynil. Starts at $8. I used to use a company called Lamin-x, but I think they are gone. Has held up great.
  • Cprescott A cheaper golf cart will not make me more inclined to screw up my life. I can go 500 plus miles on a tank of gas with my 2016 ICE car that is paid off. I get two weeks out of a tank that takes from start to finish less than 10 minutes to refill. At no point with golf cart technology as we know it can they match what my ICE vehicle can do. Hell no. Absolutely never.
  • Cprescott People do silly things to their cars.
  • Jeff This is a step in the right direction with the Murano gaining a 9 speed automatic. Nissan could go a little further and offer a compact pickup and offer hybrids. VoGhost--Nissan has  laid out a new plan to electrify 16 of the 30 vehicles it produces by 2026, with the rest using internal combustion instead. For those of us in North America, the company says it plans to release seven new vehicles in the US and Canada, although it’s not clear how many of those will be some type of EV.Nissan says the US is getting “e-POWER and plug-in hybrid models” — each of those uses a mix of electricity and fuel for power. At the moment, the only all-electric EVs Nissan is producing are the  Ariya SUV and the  perhaps endangered (or  maybe not) Leaf.In 2021, Nissan said it would  make 23 electrified vehicles by 2030, and that 15 of those would be fully electric, rather than some form of hybrid vehicle. It’s hard to say if any of this is a step forward from that plan, because yes, 16 is bigger than 15, but Nissan doesn’t explicitly say how many of those 16 are all-battery, or indeed if any of them are.  https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/25/24111963/nissan-ev-plan-2026-solid-state-batteries
  • Jkross22 Sure, but it depends on the price. All EVs cost too much and I'm talking about all costs. Depreciation, lack of public/available/reliable charging, concerns about repairability (H/K). Look at the battering the Mercedes and Ford EV's are taking on depreciation. As another site mentioned in the last few days, cars aren't supposed to depreciate by 40-50% in a year or 2.
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