By on March 14, 2011

Photos courtesy of Cars In Depth

There’s a reason why car enthusiast sites have features like Murilee Martin’s Down On The Street and Paul Niedermeyer’s Curbside Classic. People enjoy photos and commentary on cool old cars, particularly those that are still being driven. Site publishers, on the other hand, like drawing traffic and those features do draw in new readers often searching for information about a particular make, model and year. Hence after Murilee departed from Jalopnik, they started a series called Found Off The Street.

So when I saw a Porsche 928 in what appeared to be pretty decent shape sitting at a repair shop in Royal Oak, I asked our esteemed ed Ed if I could take a whack at it. The trick, of course, is to be the same but different.

This particular 928 is from the 1981 model year and the shop’s owner told me it was a customer’s car. According to the president of the Michigan chapter of the 928 Owners Club, who had left a club flier for the car’s owner on the passenger seat, like many early 928s this car has been fitted with a body kit to match later model years. That may explain the slightly ill fitting fascia, or it just might have been dinged in a parking lot. The rest of the car was pretty clean and the pearl white paint sparkled when the sun started shining through the gray March sky. The odometer indicated only ~22K miles, but the 928 club guy told me that, again, many owners of early 928s replaced the original 85mph speedometers, so that might not be accurate. The original “phone dial” wheels have sadly been replaced with larger rims from a late model Porsche. Still, it’s a nice looking car in what appears to be fine shape for a 30 year old car.

Aaron Severson’s Ate Up With Motor already has a history of the 928, so there’s no need for me to reproduce his fine work here. Instead I’d like to ask some questions. Was the 928 ahead of its time? Does the 928 not get its due from car guys? We know that Porschephiles never fully embraced the 928. The flier from the 928 club even expresses how owners can sometimes feel lonely because some Porsche enthusiasts don’t consider the 928 to be a “real Porsche”.

I think that some of that attitude has spread to auto enthusiasts in general causing them to not regard the 928 as highly as they could. It’s also possible that the 928 inherits some of the “not a real Porsche” stigma attached to the 924 which shared the 928’s layout but was originally designed by Porsche for Volkswagen. After the oil crisis in the wake of the 1973 Yom Kippur war, VW killed the project. When the 914 went out of production and Porsche needed an entry level car, they bought the rights from VW. Though Porsche purists turned their noses up at the 924, it sold well enough to get the company back on solid financial ground.

It’s true that when it was introduced, the 928 was controversial. After decades of Porsches with horizontally opposed boxers, the 928 featured a V8 engine. It was the first car designed as a front engined Porsche and was also the first water cooled Porsche street engine (again, the 924, which went on sale before the 928, was originally designed as a VW and carried an Audi designed engine). The first clean sheet design for Porsche (the 911 was ultimately based on the VW Beetle’s design, via the 356), the 928 was also the first Porsche intended to be as luxurious as it was sporting. To Porsche purists, everything about the 928 was wrong.

Tony Lapine’s styling deliberately departed not just from Porsche convention but also from the creased, angular styles then popularized by ItalDesign’s Giugiaro. Critics compared the 928’s look to that of a melted bar of soap – though early versions were not very aero (with a cd of ~.40). Lapine felt that departing from convention would make the car’s styling more timeless. I think that time has proven him correct, and a 30 year old 928 still looks like a modern design. To his credit, Lapine takes comparisons with the AMC Pacer in good humor.

However, it’s not the exterior design that has me asking those questions. What has me posing those queries are the C6 Corvette, the Aston Martin DB9 and other modern sports cars that feature an engine mounted in the front of the car while the transmission is mounted in the rear. A torque tube containing a driveshaft spinning at engine speed connects the two major drivetrain components. The 928 was not the first car to use this layout, the “rope drive” Pontiac Tempest of the early 1960s comes to mind, but the 928 was the first modern performance car to do so. Also, though its specific design is not as widely imitated as the layout is, the 928’s “Wiessach axle” taught the automotive world the importance of controlling steering inputs from the car’s rear end.

Initially, with the 928 joining the similarly laid out 924, later replaced by the “all Porsche” 944, it was thought that this would portend the end of rear engined cars at Porsche, but the 928 never sold as well as Porsche expected and the 911 outlived them all. It would take decades (and the SUV fad) for Porsche to have sales success with a front engined vehicle, the Cayenne. Recently Porsche has introduced the Panamera, also a front engined car that seems to be targeted much at the same market as the 928 was. The Panamera has a completely conventional layout, though, and since the 944 and its 968 derivative Porsche has not made a car with a front engine and a rear transmission.

Ironically, the 928 has proven to be more influential on other sports car makers than it was on Porsche itself.

The rarity and condition of this 928 were what caught my eye. That relatively cherry condition was in contrast to a rather tired looking 924 parked at the same repair shop. From the accessory Porsche front license plate I’m guessing that like the 928 Owners’ Club, the 924’s owner also got tired of being told that their car wasn’t a real Porsche.

For a complete gallery of images in 3D and 2D, please visit Cars In Depth.

Get the latest TTAC e-Newsletter!

52 Comments on “Look What I Found! Was the Porsche 928 Ahead of Its Time?...”

  • avatar

    I owned a 1984 928 euro S.  It was much more potent than the 84 spec US car.  It had 310 hp vs 240 for the US car.  It was without a doubt the finest car I will ever own.  It drove like a vault at speed.  My car had numerous issues that drained my wallet and forced me to sell it.

    This car shown has undergone some serious surgery.  It has later style GTS front and rear fascias.  I can’t imagine those are easy to swap out.

    There are a couple people who did well racing the cars.  Two aftermarket 928 suppliers did well in two different arenas.  Devek had a daily driven 200 mph car that used to go to the Nevada Open state challenge.  Mark Anderson from 928 International used to race in the SpeedVision World Challenge series long after the 928 had been sold in the US.  At the time he was racing against cars 10 years newer and with huge budgets. 

  • avatar

    I really wanted one of these when they came out. I had just closed my first big real estate deal, and I drove by the Porsche deal ere looked longingl at a nice black one.

    Then I went home and invested the money in more real estate, which is why, today, I could buy 10 Porsche 928s.

    I subsequently learned that these cars had tremendous numbers of engine failures, due mainly to the fact that they licensed Vega engine technology to make an aluminum block with no iron liner. Eventually they figured it out, but it took a while.


    • 0 avatar

      There are homeless people that can afford 10 928s at today’s prices.

    • 0 avatar
      Jack Baruth

      Yeah,  but even the most super-baller real estate wizard in self-reported Internet history might find it beyond his means to keep a single 928 running. The purchase price of a 928 is merely a transfer tax.

    • 0 avatar

      I KNOW they are bad, dont get me wrong.  But aside from the engine, how bad is the rest of the car?  I have seen some REALLY cheap 928s for sale in mint condition, and an LSX can be dropped in pretty easily.  I doubt it would pull me away from my dream of an early 911, but would a Chevy drivetrain help the upkeep costs at all?  Yea, yea, I know, its like a sacrilege to Porsche fanatics to replace the engine, but this wasnt thier best effort.

      • 0 avatar

        I have two 928’s and have had enjoyed their bullet proof reliability for many years. Yes they can be expensive to maintain, but like most things that are enjoyable in life the best things in life normally are. The 928 was designed to compete with the likes of Ferrari’s and Aston Martin’s , none of these types of vehicles are cheap to maintain either, so I find it puzzling why the 928 should be considered as being different. I will never part with either of my 928’s simply because they provide me with so much pleasure, that simply put they are worth every cent.

    • 0 avatar

      There’s a good reason why really cheap 928s lurk out there. They almost always end up being what was known as Project Car Hell on a different blog, meaning that it will end up being a static reminder of failed dreams and drained bank accounts. While the engines cost a fortune to repair, don’t underestimate the rest of the car, like the electrics, the transaxle, and the much-vaunted Weissach rear suspension.

    • 0 avatar

      Tonyola beat me to it, but I think that, in reality, the engine is the least of the 928’s problems.  While expensive to maintain as well as to fix if something does go wrong, I think the big V8 is –relatively — stout.  It’s all the other stuff surrounding it that it is problematic.  In particular, the electrical system was/is notoriously complex and probably a little out of Porsche’s wheelhouse at the time (not that newer Porsches are necessarily paragons of solid electrical systems) whereas the considerably simpler systems in the 911 and 944 were correspondingly less Lucas-like.  My father had an ’85 928S which is still owned by my mother and under the (presumed lack of) care of my brother, and, last I heard, the engine was fine, but that didn’t mean the car was operable.  It pains me to think of the state that that car is likely in now…nonetheless, I will always have very fond memories of driving it — what others have raved about in terms of ultimate freeway stability and performance is absolutely true. Still, the other 80s/90s Porsches were not lacking in their own charms, to say the least.  Hence, if you’re looking to scratch that sort of itch, a well cared for 924S/944/968 or pre-964 SC/Carrera is probably going to be a better bet in terms of simple and reliable fun. 

    • 0 avatar

      Not a fan of Dr. Porsche’s company, but if I bought a Porsche it’d be a 944 or 968. The doc who put my knee back together had a really nice 968 with vanity plates that read BAXNNEX. I figured if he could do spinal surgery without crippling people he’d do just fine on my knee and he did.

  • avatar

    Ahead of its time? No more so than any other Porsche…I have always been impressed at how the firm has been able to stretch a basic design longer than others. The 928 had 15 or so year run with the same basic platform, and the 924/944/968 and 911 platforms survived even longer (some may see that as a demerit but I don’t). The 928 was continually improved over the years, and the later models are out and out supercars. The early 90’s GTS models now command higher prices than the contemporaneous air-cooled models, in fact (Turbo models excepted). The 928 GTS and the 944 Turbo S are cars that flat kicked the 911’s butt in their day, but lacked the panache, soul (quirks) and racing heritage of the 911, and hence were never fully embraced by many Porschephiles. This is a pity…if Porsche made a car with the 944’s layout and practicality priced a bit below Boxster levels I’d be all over it.

  • avatar

    Folks in Canuckland can bring one over from Japan (“15 years old” rule). There are true gems to be found there.
    I toyed with the idea of bringing a 944S2 for a while, but recession kicked in and I chickened out.

  • avatar

    One day when I have more money than sense (and a barn for a garage) – I’ll buy one of these and put it alongside the mk1 Golf GTI & Audi Quattro that’s I’d also love to own

  • avatar

    The 928 is on my “wish I could own” list – I think it’s gorgeous.  Unfortunately, I’m too tall to sit in it comfortably and don’t have enough spare cash to keep one running/fixed properly.  I think I could live with one of those two, but not both.
    But wow, what a car.

  • avatar

    Always felt they were one of the most gorgeous automobiles ever designed.  First drove one back in 1993 (used) and was seriously considering buying it.  Unfortunately (like most 928’s) it was an automatic, which killed the deal for me.  Also didn’t help that I got an internet opinion on the idea that said, “If you’re going to pay Ferrari repair prices, you might as well be driving a Ferrari”.  Scared me off.  Only later did it dawn on me that, it might cost as much as a Ferrari when you have to have work done . . . . . . . . but you don’t have to get that kind of work done anywhere near as often.
    Why has it never gotten the credit it deserves?  Two words.  911 snobbery.
    I’m not complaining though.  It’s the same snobbery that made my 924S affordable.  There’s two 928’s at the Euro-used car lot across the street from work.  Unfortunately, they’re both rough cosmetically, so I can only imagine what the mechanicals are like.

  • avatar

    I have always thought that 928 is timeless.
    The 924 however was a POS pretender…in my opinion.

  • avatar

    I’ve been in love with these cars ever since I was in my first one at an ADAC event in Germany in 1979. My cousin was friends with the race marshals, and managed to get my teenage butt a ride in the pace car of the ‘old-timer’s’ event we were attending. The car was safety orange and had the eye-melting geometric interior fabric they were famous for at the time. I didn’t have an international driver’s license at the time, so they wouldn’t/couldn’t let me get behind the wheel, not like I didn’t try. During the 80’s, I seriously lusted after the 944’s, but never got any closer to one than my Trans Am. After that, life and marriage and kids and you know the rest of the story from there…

  • avatar

    I live in Royal Oak and see these cars on a regular basis.

  • avatar

    Well, the 928 was far from the first front-engine, rear-wheel drive layout road vehicles with a transaxle design.
     From Wikipedia:
    ·     1898-1910 De Dion Bouton
    ·     1914–1939 Stutz Bearcat
    ·     1929–1936 Bugatti Type 46
    ·     1934–1944 Škoda Popular and Škoda Rapid
    ·     1946–1952 Škoda Tudor and Škoda 1101
    ·     1950–1958 Lancia Aurelia
    ·     1951–1956 Pegaso Z-102
    ·     1957–1970 Lancia Flaminia
    ·     1961–1963 Pontiac Tempest
    ·     1964–1968 Ferrari 275
    ·     1963-1968  Ferrari 330
    ·     1968–1973 Ferrari Daytona
    ·     1972–1987 Alfa Romeo Alfetta
    ·     1974–1987 Alfa Romeo GTV/Alfa Romeo GTV6
    ·     1976–1988 Porsche 924
    ·     1976–1991 Volvo 300 series
    ·     1977–1985 Alfa Romeo Giulietta
    ·     1978–1995 Porsche 928

  • avatar

    The only Porsches that ever interested me were the 928 and 959. As teenager they were my dream cars, along with the Countach of course.

  • avatar

    I always saw these in the same (kind of) light as a 635 CSi or a 560 SEC…a ground-based alternative to an executive jet (at least in Germany)…smooth, powerful and comfortable…easily swallowing kilometer after kilometer out on the open Autobahn.

  • avatar

    @ Ronnie Schrieber: “Site publishers, on the other hand, like drawing traffic ”
    -Just as long as ttac’s owners don’t start using “The AOL Way”, which is now or soon-to-be horsewhipping the soul right out of your opposite numbers at Autoblog.

    • 0 avatar

      While it’d be nice if our corporate overlords helped promote TTAC on their other properties, like AOL does with AB  and Gawker does with Jalop, if a lack of promotion is the cost of not interfering in what the creative staff does, it’s a price worth paying.
      Actually, if you read that article, if Ms. Huffington is being honest, focusing on passion as opposed to traffic stats, that would be better for AB. To be honest, though, AB is where I go for neutral news, not comment, and I think they do a good job at that.

  • avatar

    Then came the Dodge Daytona.

  • avatar
    Felis Concolor

    Porsche’s 924 is to Porsche fans what Winchester’s 1964 push-feed mechanism is to the rifle shooting community. It was a major change in structure and form, which naturally suffered early quirks and teething problems. These early problems have been used ever since as a focus/justification for what a product should or should not be. Just as millions of hunters used the initial production problems with the early push feed/plunger eject mechanism as a justification to claim “you should only trust your life to controlled-feed rifles”, so do the majority of Porsche fanatics say “our beloved automaker simply can not do front engine/rear drive performance right.” FWIW, I’ve only ever suffered a failure to feed with the old style controlled-feed bolts, which is why I don’t bother keeping any in my collection.

    I remember the automobile reviewers having mixed feelings at the 924’s introduction, but providing glowing reviews for the 928 when it was new. Perhaps, had the 928 been Porsche’s first offering in the F/R performance sedan category, Porsche’s fans would be far more forgiving of its layout and far less vocal in their R/R-only claims since then.

    And as I’m working on a Pacer hot rod project I definitely get a kick out of the styling comparison, since the similarity to Dick Teague’s design is readily visible from the B-pillar on back.

    • 0 avatar

      Please tell me you’re putting in a 390/401 in that Pacer and not a SBC. I’ve long like the idea of big block displacement out of a slightly bigger than small block engine.
      Last night on one of the car shows on cable they were featuring a restored Rebel “The Machine”. They said that due to the hood scoop and induction system it was the most powerful AMC ever.

    • 0 avatar
      Felis Concolor

      Sadly it is not to be: the current progression from front to rear is LS2/5L50E and Ford 8.8″ backing it up. We have been trying hard to keep a 70s vibe for everything else, including one of the current headaches of fitting a big foot pedal to the drive-by-wire throttle unit. I’ve measured and mic’ed the factory pedal dimensions and may hit up Shapeways to have a one-piece unit printed up from laser sintered stainless steel. The rear seat area was deemed far too cramped for friends to sit, so the wagon body will become a 2-seat delivery car, with the extended rear cargo area lined in teak or a similar durable hardwood and fitted with steel and rubber strips both for visual accent and to keep boxes and bags from shifting around. And while we’re still going with the original DOT headlights for now, I could have sworn there were some European market cars which had that rounded square shape to fit the headlight pods and eliminate the black spacer bezel. Perhaps some old Renault R5 units are square enough.

    • 0 avatar
      Felis Concolor

      There should be a reply in the system: I guess it doesn’t like my style of composing offline and then setting a massive cut/paste block in place.

  • avatar

    The Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT and GTV-6 is a modern performance car with a transaxle that pre-dates the 928 by several years in 4 cyl form, and a year in V6 form. Also sundry transaxled Ferraris and such. Nothing particularly new here.

    I have always liked the 928, seems hard to believe they are that old now. How old does that make ME!!!???

  • avatar

    The front engine / rear transmission equipped Alfa Romeo Alfetta/GTV6 predates the Porsche 924/928 by a few years.

    • 0 avatar

      And the 1961 Pontiac Tempest predates it by about 15…
      And the system was apparently first used in the 1951 LeSabre concept.
      Of course, GM totally botched the execution.

    • 0 avatar

      Mike, had I known that when we were at the Heritage Center I would have looked under the LeSabre. BTW, if you’re interested, I finally got the video posted of my walkaround the GMHC. You can see it here:
      I still can’t get over how low the LeSabre is. I had to get down on my knees to get a bumper level shot.

    • 0 avatar

      Along with the Corvette C5/C6 and Aston Martins, another modern sports car with front-engine/rear transmission is the Nissan GT-R.   The brand new Ferrari FF also has a similar design (with a unique secondary transmission to drive the front wheels)

  • avatar

    While Porsche Enthusiasts may not have considered the 928 a “real” Porsche, the Porsche family did.
    They didn’t drive 911s – they drove 928s.

  • avatar

    Holy cow, Batman, what an amazing coincidence.
    entering the dental doc today to get the last tooth disengaged and tossed aside akin to a Disgruntled Old Coot of no further use to society I saw the Porsche 924 serenely sitting in the parking lot.
    It assuredly has been revitalized at some point or…it has been extraordinarily well tended; fed, watered and fertilized etc since it appeared pert-near new!!!!
    Gazed at it then stumbled into the waiting room.
    Back in the shanty with a gaping crater within that big hole in my face.

  • avatar
    Educator(of teachers)Dan

    The Porsche 928 is the finest Corvette that GM never built. Porsche should have kept updating this platform.

  • avatar

    The 928 is the car that first got me interested in cars as a 10-year old. My uncle took me for a ride in one and it was like another planet compared to the old junky sedans my parents owned — smooth, fast, every piece of the interior had quality and heft to it. He gave me the sales brochure and I still have it today.

    Too much of a change for the 911 purist sportscar crowd who form the core of the Porschephiles, I guess. I always saw it as a sportier competitor to the BMW 6 series, a gentleman’s GT. Too bad it never achieved the full success it deserved.

  • avatar

    “…but the 928 never sold as well as Porsche expected…”
    No wonder. Aside from the technical problems and costs involved (these news spread very fast) it was simply too massive. No elegance, but a timeless ugliness.
    I always thought that Porsche designed it primarily for the US market (Corvette as the competitor), by bloating the 924 (s. pics above).

  • avatar

    The 928 was the prettiest, sleekest AMC Pacer ever built.

  • avatar

    I saw my first 928 at a Porsche-Audi dealership in Cleveland, near Hopkins airport.  It was 1978, and my dad was buying a silver, two door Audi Fox.  The 928 was chocolate brown and was being closely surveyed by a guy who just got out of the army.  He was still in uniform.  When we got home, my dad threw me his auto buyers guides, as he no longer needed them.  I turned right to the pages that listed Porsche.
    Not too many years later, I saw Risky Business.  Had I not been in love with Porsches before this point, I certainly was head-over-heels when I left the theater.  Oh, and the blonde, Rebecca Demornay was pretty hot too.  Porsche, there is no substitute.
    Just out of high school, and not quite at Ohio State, my summer job was as a porter at a Porsche Audi dealership on the Bedford Automile.  I had a little shop out back.  I used to get the 928’s, 911’s, etc., right off the truck.  I’d pull the plastic off the seats, detail them, and sometimes sneak them off to lunch.  Good times.  Once, I was told to drive one up into the upper showroom.  It could only be accessed via a narrow wooden ramp off the service bay, and at the top of the ramp, one had to successfully make a 180 degree turn, or risk sliding crookedly back down the slippery wooden ramp.  Ask me how I know…not so good times.
    But it was a good dealership with good people who treated me well and forgave my foibles.  They even chuckled when I backed a brand new 928 out of my narrow little garage and tore the mirror off the driver’s side.  I was sick to my stomach.  The guys down below, in the shop, had it fixed in no time.  I got to keep my job.
    I always thought I’d own a Porsche.  But after graduation came a career, house, kids, divorce…saving for their college.  A Porsche, new or used, is certainly not in the cards.  But I don’t consider that a horrible thing.  I often catch Wheeler Dealers on the HD Network, where I watch the two Brits restore all the cars I’d love to have owned and restored myself.  I watch them suffer through some of the same issues with which I’ve dealt.  I live vicariously through them and I smile, knowing that at the end of a half hour show, I can turn the tv off, get up from my chair and do something far more constructive and far less expensive.  Again, good times.

  • avatar
    alfred p. sloan

    We worked on a 1979 model in tech school… I liked the design and the basic structure but the car was a dog.

  • avatar

    “Not too many years later, I saw Risky Business.”

    Who’s the U-boat commander?

  • avatar

    It’s the only thing Porshe has ever made than interested me in the slightest. A friend’s dad had one for a few years and it was a lot of fun. It was like a Camaro, but with an amazing quality interior.

  • avatar
    Greg Locock

    Terminology question – do people really call the front nosecone assembly the fascia?

    Snide remark – the weisbach axle is a fairly nasty bodge. Adding a toe link to a swing arm makes it less horrible, not good. Plenty of people were working on rear axle roll steer in that time period, back in the thirties Olley had identified that it was necessary.

    • 0 avatar

      That’s usually what folks in the car biz call it. I suppose it’s more elegant than saying nosecone or front end, but then fascia is used in English to describe the front surface of many things. It probably made its way into car lingo via architecture. I thought it was from the Latin for face, but based on the info below, I’m guessing that face is facie, not fascia. I wonder if fascia is related to fascist – I know that term comes from Roman symbolism.
      From Wiki:
      Fascia is a term which generally describes any horizontal surface which spans across the top of columns or across the top of a wall [1]. From the Latin word, meaning “band” or “doorframe“; in architecture. The word is pronounced with the “long-a” sound, /ˈfeɪʃə/, rhyming with the Japanese word geisha.
      Specifically, used to describe the vertical “fascia board” which caps the end of rafters outside a building, which can be used to hold the rain gutter. The finished surface below the fascia and rafters is called the soffit or eave. A soffit is also often installed between the ceiling and the top of wall cabinets in a kitchen, set at a 90 degree angle to the horizontal soffit which projects out from the wall.
      In classical architecture, the fascia is the plain, wide band across the bottom of the entablature, directly above the columns. The “guttae” or drip edge was mounted on the fascia in the Doric order, below the triglyph.

  • avatar

    I love the B&B. I write a piece about a car that intrigues me and the comments are full of folks who really know the car. Thanks for all the great comments!

  • avatar

    Boy the moderation filter must be set at three links. I copied something from Wiki and the embedded links got the comment flagged for moderation.

  • avatar

    Like so many above, I always wanted one of these, and like so many, I also grew up and realized that I’d likely never be able to afford the cost of upkeep, or if I could afford the dollar cost, wouldn’t want the headaches. (If you ever find a Citroen SM, you can just copy and paste this post–I saw one when I was about 7 and have wanted one of those ever since as well.) I do see these now and then around LA, just because you see a little of everything around LA.

  • avatar

    Nobody saw “Middle Age Crazy” – starring Bruce Dern, Ann Margarett and a 928?

    Jeez – great movie, stinger line – He had it all, even a wife that bingo’d when he screwed her…

    • 0 avatar

      I’ve been trying to remember the name of that movie forever! IIRC that 928 preceded the “Risky Business” 928 by a few years. I think I was too young to see/understand the premise of the movie at the time, but I remember a scene with a 928 (it had probably come out on network TV by then).

    • 0 avatar

      I may not be able to get a 928, but at least I have a bingo’ing wife… :)

Read all comments

Back to TopLeave a Reply

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Recent Comments

  • SCE to AUX: “why aren’t the prices of EV’s going down every year?” They are, if one considers the product...
  • mcs: @ImageFont:”I think every EV should include an extra $7500 charge tacked on to the sticker price that is...
  • mcs: @ImageFont: “so why aren’t the prices of EV’s going down every year? ” It’s supply and demand....
  • Imagefont: Wait, I though battery prices were going down every year. The cells Tesla uses should be like $10/kwh so...
  • pmirp1: Come October 4th, I am walking to my friendly Chevrolet dealer, putting in an order for the new color Green...

New Car Research

Get a Free Dealer Quote

Who We Are

  • Adam Tonge
  • Bozi Tatarevic
  • Corey Lewis
  • Mark Baruth
  • Ronnie Schreiber