What's Wrong With This Picture: Spot The Turnaround Edition

Edward Niedermeyer
by Edward Niedermeyer

Collectively, the the Detroit Three have enjoyed precisely one market share turnaround in the last several years: Ford in 2009. This year, Detroit’s market share looks downright stagnant. Chrysler’s got a tiny bump going on, but Ford’s lost its fizz and GM is skidding bottom… at best. On the other hand, if this graph is just too gloomy for you, hit the jump for one of the first glimmers of (market share) hope for Detroit in years.

Pullback! Or at least some slowing in the rate at which import brands were taking over the American market. But hey, $80b or so in taxpayer assistance will do that. In any case, it’s way too early to say that Detroit has conclusively halted decades-long market share slide.


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  • Morea Morea on Aug 13, 2010

    Recipe for a Do-It-Yourself Consumer Reports auto quality survey: Go to three independent mechanics. Ask them one question: What does your wife (or significant other, or mother, or daughter) drive? My observation has been that Toyota and Honda will come up more often than Ford or GM.

  • Jbcrzn Jbcrzn on Aug 13, 2010

    There was an issue of Car and Driver in which they praised Porsche for not changing the looks of the 928 for nearly twenty years and they highlighted the mechanical and panel interchangeability from the current model to one of the early iterations. In the same issue, they condemned Chrysler for not significantly revising the Lebaron for five years. Maybe in their minds, the Lebaron needed a refresh though the Porsche did not, but it appeared as though anything from Detroit needed help and anything from the Black Forest was gold. I do read Consumer Reports and use the publication as a guide line, however, they appear to me to be biased towards Toyota. Materials they have claimed to be class leading are materials for which I do not care and believe them to be no better than Ford, GM, Chrysler, Nissan, etc. We are all affected by our experiences and preferences. My preferences are toward American nameplates (not because they are associated with “built in America”), rather I generally prefer their handling, overall feel and looks of their products to the competition. I have had a Nissan Xterra and a Jeep Wrangler, and while the Wrangler handled better to me (very subjective), I would say the Xterra feels slightly more mechanically solid. The trade off is that the Xterra is more expensive to maintain and repairs are much more expensive, so at the end of the day, one is not better to me than the other. I would select between those two based on purpose, not CR recommending the Xterra and not the Wrangler. I have driven and ridden in many Toyotas, Nissans, Hondas, Chevrolets, Fords, Chryslers, and KIAs and each brand has had vehicles with which I can easily find fault and they have also had ones that are magnificent vehicles. I have talked to mechanics that favor different nameplates for different reasons and the majority of them have admitted to me that Toyota, Nissan, and Honda are not as likely to have a mechanical failure as the Detroit three are, however, when they do require repairs, they are much more difficult to work on than the domestic nameplates and have increased cost for the same repairs.

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    • JeremyR JeremyR on Aug 15, 2010

      Yeah, how about that. For some reason I believed that the 928 was solely a product of the 80's. My bad!

  • Jalop1991 is this anything like a cheap high end German car?
  • HotRod Not me personally, but yes - lower prices will dramatically increase the EV's appeal.
  • Slavuta "the price isn’t terrible by current EV standards, starting at $47,200"Not terrible for a new Toyota model. But for a Vietnamese no-name, this is terrible.
  • Slavuta This is catch22 for me. I would take RAV4 for the powertrain alone. And I wouldn't take it for the same thing. Engines have history of issues and transmission shifts like glass. So, the advantage over hard-working 1.5 is lost.My answer is simple - CX5. This is Japan built, excellent car which has only one shortage - the trunk space.
  • Slavuta "Toyota engineers have told us that they intentionally build their powertrains with longevity in mind"Engine is exactly the area where Toyota 4cyl engines had big issues even recently. There was no longevity of any kind. They didn't break, they just consumed so much oil that it was like fueling gasoline and feeding oil every time
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