Curbside Classic Outtake: Hybrid Love

Paul Niedermeyer
by Paul Niedermeyer

Well, the Canadians might not be too big on hybrids, but (surprise, surprise) Eugene has embraced them fully. But when I first ran across this sign, even I was a wee bit surprised. What’s next? Hybrid Massage? Hybrid Organic Market? or will it jump to Plug-In Acupuncture? To get a better picture of what I mean, take the (full) hybrid jump:

I missed a great photo op one day when a gen1, gen2, and gen 3 Prius were lined up at a light. And I also missed a Prius sitting in front of a house with a Hybrid Realty sign.

And just like old W123 Diesel Mercedes, old Prii are coming to Eugene to live out their latter years. The green one with Oregon plates lives at this house; the Georgia plated-one came to visit, or is it moving here too?

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  • Joeveto3 Joeveto3 on Aug 23, 2010

    Beyond reliability, I'd like to know how an aged Prius (or any hybrid -- but mostly the Prius as it is the standard) feels after 150-200K miles. Does it feel like a used up golf cart, with herky-jerky driveline engagement? Or maybe it smooths out? A few years ago I was seriously considering a Prius for my next company car purchase. But because I drive so much, I was concerned the car would be annoying to drive with rough transitions from electric to gas power, and odd-feeling regenerative braking. I'm all for technology, but I want it to (for the most part) feel normal. If it feels odd when new, what does it feel like after many years and miles? So I passed. I know no car will feel new after the years and miles are piled on. But there is a difference between used and bizarre. Any feedback from Prius owners?

  • Andy D Andy D on Aug 23, 2010

    My nephew bought a Prius about the time gas was heading for 4$ a gallon. I see an awful lot of Prii around Boston. I guess I havent been paying attention. What does a 14 yr old Prius go for? That would make a good story, road testing 10 yr old cars and comparing them to their new counterparts.

  • Honda1 Unions were needed back in the early days, not needed know. There are plenty of rules and regulations and government agencies that keep companies in line. It's just a money grad and nothing more. Fain is a punk!
  • 1995 SC If the necessary number of employees vote to unionize then yes, they should be unionized. That's how it works.
  • Sobhuza Trooper That Dave Thomas fella sounds like the kind of twit who is oh-so-quick to tell us how easy and fun the bus is for any and all of your personal transportation needs. The time to get to and from the bus stop is never a concern. The time waiting for the bus is never a concern. The time waiting for a connection (if there is one) is never a concern. The weather is never a concern. Whatever you might be carrying or intend to purchase is never a concern. Nope, Boo Cars! Yeah Buses! Buses rule!Needless to say, these twits don't actual take the damn bus.
  • MaintenanceCosts Nobody here seems to acknowledge that there are multiple use cases for cars.Some people spend all their time driving all over the country and need every mile and minute of time savings. ICE cars are better for them right now.Some people only drive locally and fly when they travel. For them, there's probably a range number that works, and they don't really need more. For the uses for which we use our EV, that would be around 150 miles. The other thing about a low range requirement is it can make 120V charging viable. If you don't drive more than an average of about 40 miles/day, you can probably get enough electrons through a wall outlet. We spent over two years charging our Bolt only through 120V, while our house was getting rebuilt, and never had an issue.Those are extremes. There are all sorts of use cases in between, which probably represent the majority of drivers. For some users, what's needed is more range. But I think for most users, what's needed is better charging. Retrofit apartment garages like Tim's with 240V outlets at every spot. Install more L3 chargers in supermarket parking lots and alongside gas stations. Make chargers that work like Tesla Superchargers as ubiquitous as gas stations, and EV charging will not be an issue for most users.
  • MaintenanceCosts I don't have an opinion on whether any one plant unionizing is the right answer, but the employees sure need to have the right to organize. Unions or the credible threat of unionization are the only thing, history has proven, that can keep employers honest. Without it, we've seen over and over, the employers have complete power over the workers and feel free to exploit the workers however they see fit. (And don't tell me "oh, the workers can just leave" - in an oligopolistic industry, working conditions quickly converge, and there's not another employer right around the corner.)
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