By on June 7, 2010

Toyota must have recalled what seems to be all its cars on the road (well, some 8m to 9m worldwide to be halfway exact.) Now it’s Chrysler’s turn. Last week’s announcement for pedals with sticktion was just the warm-up. The serious recalls are coming now.

Chrysler is recalling some 575,000 Jeeps and Dodge and Chrysler minivans, says Bloomberg.

288,968 Jeep Wranglers (MY 2001 through 2010) must go to the shop to repair a defect caused when liners inside the fenders touch right-front and left-rear brake lines, leading to wear that may cause fluid to leak and raising the risk of a crash. “A brake fluid leak can cause partial loss of service brakes at the affected wheel, increasing the risk of a crash,” NHTSA says on the website.

Chrysler also issued a return to base for 284,831 Dodge Grand Caravan and Chrysler Town & Country minivans from the 2008 and 2009 model years. A sliding-door hinge can wear through wire insulation, causing a short circuit and possible fire, says the NHTSA.

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22 Comments on “Massive Chrysler Recall...”


  • avatar
    adonasetb

    Chrysler will have what a million recalls????? Not even close to Toyota numbers

  • avatar

    This is “dog bites man”…Toyota with “Man bites dog.”…nothing to see here, move along…

  • avatar
    Lorenzo

    Ten years of Wranglers and two years of minvans is nowhere near a million. The brake problem sounds like a missing clip problem, and the wiring harness was described as improperly installed. Both look like easy fixes of problems that don’t crop up immediately.

    I’m still surprised that Chrysler has so few really dangerous problems. Most complaints I’ve heard from owners involve inferior components that don’t last as long as they should, and the resulting lack of reliability/durability. They may be an old model lineup, but they’re apparently solidly designed.

    • 0 avatar
      jimboy

      +1. Despite all of it’s negative press lately, Chrysler does make well built, well engineered, reliable vehicles. Some members of the media would do well to remember that, occasionally.

    • 0 avatar

      Yep Jimboy, Fiasler sure does make “well built, well engineered, reliable vehicles,” golly gee they sure do…

      Well, except for those sludged-up 2.7L V-6s that remain in damn near all their cars…

      And those well-engineered Ultradrive automatics, replaced by almost equally problematic Benz rejects…

      And power windows that not only stop working, but more often than not do so in the down position…

      And gaskets that leak like sieves on nearly all their motors…

      And the multitude of comparatively minor, but ever-persistent, panel fit and rattle issues…

      Shall I go on, or do you want to speak more about how well-built Fiaslers are?

    • 0 avatar
      crc

      Rob-Anecdotally, both of my Jeeps disagree with you.

    • 0 avatar
      jimboy

      @rob finfrock, apparently you are one of those people who believes everything he reads and refuses to do any of his own research and fact finding. All you have spewed here is garbage from the net- How many 2.7’s- as opposed to the total built? same for the Ultradrive- generally destroyed by idiots like you who can’t read a label on the transmission fluid, which windows on which vehicles? and which gaskets? if you’re referring to the Neon, those gaskets were only in one year of vehicle more than 10 years ago. As a Chrysler owner of more than 12 chrysler vehicles of various makes and models I have experienced exactly NONE of the issues you’re so happy to raise, so lay off the anecdotal hearsay until and unless you have some kind of personal (that means first-hand), experience or insight to offer.

    • 0 avatar

      Umm, Rob, you just told me to buy a Jeep in another thread.

    • 0 avatar

      @Pete — Yes I did… when compared with an overpriced bloated Toyota SUV, I said the smaller, lighter option would be the better bet for what you said you were going to use it for.

      For what they are, Jeep Wranglers are among the better Fiasler products to get. That doesn’t mean I give Jeeps a ringing endorsement, or that I’d ever, ever own one myself.

      jimboy, I once worked at a Chrysler store. I also know several people who have had problems with Chrysler vehicles… including two sludged Intrepids, and one 2002 minivan that gave up its transmission at 150K despite regular maintenance and predominantly highway usage. (As for the Intrepid, I’ll give you one of them — the owner knows nothing about maintaining a vehicle. But the other was VERY well-kept, and serviced at the manufacturer’s recommended intervals.)

      My folks’ current Town & Country is decent I suppose, though not great by any stretch of the imagination. Many, many rattles, a left front fender slapped on 20 degrees off-center that required two body shop visits to remedy, and overall horrible build quality. It also suffers the infamous “bump stop” malady, despite repeated attempts by Chrysler to fix it since the A604 first made its infamy known.

      Cheap, yes. Comfortable, yes (if you’re deaf and can’t hear the rattles.) But it’s hardly a well-designed, well-built vehicle.

      jim, I sense you’re trying to convince yourself Chrysler will be around two years from now, to honor that Sebring warranty. Not a bet I would take.

    • 0 avatar
      Wheeljack

      +1 jimboy…

      The only 2.7L engines that had sludge issues were the early built units that didn’t have a proper PCV system. Once a PCV system was added, the problem was pretty much solved. Add to that the improvements made to engine oils, especially in the arena of sludge generation, and it’s pretty much a non-issue these days assuming one can be bothered to follow the maintenance schedule. How many here who are throwing stones own a 2.7L? I do, and it’s been completely trouble free (leak free too) and there’s not a speck of sludge in it. It never delivers less than 23 mpg in stop and go traffic and can even hit 30 on the highway with some dilligence and a willingness to do the speed limit.

      By the way, have you ever looked at the NHTSA database entries on 2.7L sludging? I have, and it seems the majority of the ones I looked at before I got bored were from people who bought the cars used with 25,000+ miles on them…in other words, lease returns and rental cars, and we all know how well those are taken care of.

      On to the much maligned ultradrive….yes it had problems when it was introduced, and yes they are still using variations of that same transmission today. However, other than shift weirdness that is just a part of the design, they are pretty damn reliable anymore. It seems our own Steven Lang has recounted his favorable impressions of 2001+ minivans that have given good service with nary a sign of trouble from the transmission.

      Then there’s the MB trans – the only real commonplace issue with it were some leaky o-rings on a electrical connector that goes through the outer case. The o-rings were redesigned and once replaced they are trouble free. This transmission, while suffering from gear envy these days, is actually a remarkably efficient unit that does an excellent job of putting power to the ground with a minimal amount of power loss in the process.

      The Grand Cherokees did have some issues with power window motors in the proir generation, and so did the original Neon…some model year Libertys have issues with the lift plate where the glass attaches failing, but the motor itself is fine. In other words, they don’t really have any more issues with this kind of stuff than their crosstown rivals.

      Lastly, the only recent engine that has had problems with leaks was the old tried and true 4.0L in the Wrangler. Wanna know why? Well I’m going to tell you anyway – the 4.0L was probably the last engine to use an ancient 2-piece rear main seal vs. the more typical 1 piece seal with a garter spring that virtually all modern engines use. The fact that all of them dont leak with such an ancient design is nothing short of miracle. For the record, niether of my 4.0Ls leak from the aforementioned rear main seal.

      Also, I’d like to note that the article I read about the recall said it only affected 2007-2010 Wranglers which makes sense to me based on the failure mode described above – the Wrangler (and it’s wheelwell liners) was completely redesigned for 2007 and bears little to no resemblance to the prior (2006 and older) generation vehicle.

    • 0 avatar
      windswords

      We have a 2003 Dodge Durango. Last year of the first generation. 4.7 V8, 5 speed auto, the Benz unit. It now has near a 100,000 miles on it. I’m happy to report that the trans is fine (and shifts quite well thank you), the power windows all work, the engine, suspension, exhaust, fit & finish are all great. As a matter of fact this vehicle has been less troublesome than our previous car, a 1998 Toyota RAV4. So I guess you can count me as one of those who think that *overall* (and especially pre and post Dumbler) Chrysler’s are “well built, well engineered, reliable vehicles”.

    • 0 avatar
      crc

      @Wheeljack

      The Jeep 4.0L doesn’t leak. It’s just marking its territory.

    • 0 avatar
      jimboy

      @ rob finfrock, Actually my vehicles are off warranty, so I could give a s*** about sludge. Besides, my current vehicle has a ‘hemi’, so no sludge. My point is that too many people on these boards have nothing but anecdotal or hearsay evidence with absolutely ZIP knowledge of what they are talking about. When you use words like ‘fiasler’ and ‘crap’, it simply indicates to everyone here that you blindly follow the media’s pronouncement about everything. Argue a point sensibly, using your own knowledge and facts, not incendiary B.S., and people won’t jump on you. You don’t like Chrysler for personal reasons? great, then say so. You want them to fail for personal reasons? say that too! Just don’t try to make sweeping statements that are meaningless and insulting to the rest of us readers.

    • 0 avatar

      Wow… see what happens when I don’t bother checking up on a thread. So let’s let jimboy prattle:

      “Argue a point sensibly, using your own knowledge and facts, not incendiary B.S.”

      A fine response… but perhaps you didn’t read this:

      “jimboy, I once worked at a Chrysler store. I also know several people who have had problems with Chrysler vehicles… including two sludged Intrepids, and one 2002 minivan that gave up its transmission at 150K despite regular maintenance and predominantly highway usage.”

      Or…

      “My folks’ current Town & Country is decent I suppose, though not great by any stretch of the imagination. Many, many rattles, a left front fender slapped on 20 degrees off-center that required two body shop visits to remedy, and overall horrible build quality. It also suffers the infamous “bump stop” malady, despite repeated attempts by Chrysler to fix it since the A604 first made its infamy known.”

      It’s my personal experience with Fiasler vehicles that makes me confident and secure enough to say… they absolutely, positively suck.

      No media spin. No second-hand information.

      Jump on that.

  • avatar
    EEGeek

    I wonder whether the minivan recall will also have VW recalling a couple dozen Routans…

  • avatar

    The brake problem appears to be an improperly formed brake booster rod retaining clip and no deaths have resulted from this defect yet. This news compounded with the sticking gas pedal problem may force Chrysler to re-evaluate it’s manufacturing processes and possibly management. I look forward to Chrysler learning from this mistake and improve their vehicles.

  • avatar
    wsn

    Did Chrysler inform NHTSA within 5 days?

  • avatar
    N Number

    I’ve seen some reports saying that the recall only affects 2007-10 Wranglers. I’d be more inclined to believe this as they have entirely different fenders than previous models.

  • avatar
    Geo. Levecque

    Chrysler vehicles were not recommended by Consumers Reports as well as here in Canada the Lemon-Aid books, all in all they may be cheap but they are not built correctly period.
    FIAT will probably sell off the Jeep and Mini Van line when they breakup Chrysler piece meal, I pity anyone buying these products!

  • avatar
    windswords

    “Massive Chrysler Recall”

    Really?

    It’s 2 recalls, not one. Hell, the affected vehicles are not even the same models, nor is the problem the same one across different models (a la Toyota). You might want to rethink your headline. When I was editor of my schools newspaper I would not have allowed that to go to print.

    575,000 vehicles made over a 10 year (Wrangler) and 2 year (minivan) period by a manufacturer that has historically sold 2 MILLION vehicles a year is not massive. If this is a “massive” recall, what was Toyota’s?
    Supercalifragilisticexpiallowdocius!?!?

  • avatar
    AJ

    Screw the brakes, as my Jeep doesn’t exactly stop well anyway. :)

    My only safety complaint about my Wrangler is a common problem with the ’05 and ’06 years, that when filling the gas tank, the pump doesn’t immediately shut off and gas spills out.

    Some guys have had the tanks replaced, and even themselves paid $400 to do so for the problem to only return. From what I’ve heard, it could be a design problem with the tank. Currently many of us owners have filed complaints with both Chrysler and the NHTSA.

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