Ford, Mazda, Changan Want A Divorce, Remarry Separately

Bertel Schmitt
by Bertel Schmitt

Threesomes can get burdensome to keep together. Didn’t we report in January that Ford, Mazda, and China’s Changan want to end the ménage-a-la-trois and forge their individual joint ventures? It was quickly dismissed as “speculation.” Just because it’s a speculation doesn’t mean that it won’t come true.

Ford, Mazda, and Changan have asked the Chinese government to dissolve their three-way tie up, Reuters says.

As reported months ago, Ford and Mazda plan to engage in separate joint ventures with Changan. Both are looking for the usual 50:50 deal.

“They have submitted a joint proposal to the Chinese government to split up the partnership. Ford’s new JV with Changan will be based in Chongqing, while Mazda’s venture will be based in Nanjing,” said an unnamed source to Reuters.

Also, the denials stopped. Ford and Changan gave a “no comment.” Mazda said to Reuters they are “awaiting regulatory approval for a restructuring move,” but they wouldn’t go into details. Gasgoo even reports that “Mazda told the media that it is true that Mazda and Ford will separate the joint-venture in China.”

Ever since Ford reduced its controlling 33 percent stake in Mazda to 11 percent in 2008 to raise cash, the couple has become increasingly estranged. If an executive from Ford wants to attend a meeting at Mazda, the matters discussed must be carefully vetted beforehand and signed-off in advance. Mazda is rumored to look for another beau, but none has surfaced so far.

Splitsville in the world’s largest auto market is “a good move as a three-way tie could get complicated sometimes. The biggest beneficiary, however, would be Mazda as it could be an equal partner in the new tie,” said Chen Liang, an analyst with Huatai Securities.

The Wall Street Journal has its own version of the three-way divorce. They found “a person close to the situation” who said that “he suspects Changan may be marginally interested in having the application approved. Changan may well prefer the status quo of having its two foreign partners as weak minority stakeholders of the joint venture.”

Understandable. But imagine being in bed with two beauties who scratch each other’s eyes out. Let me tell you: No fun at all.

Bertel Schmitt
Bertel Schmitt

Bertel Schmitt comes back to journalism after taking a 35 year break in advertising and marketing. He ran and owned advertising agencies in Duesseldorf, Germany, and New York City. Volkswagen A.G. was Bertel's most important corporate account. Schmitt's advertising and marketing career touched many corners of the industry with a special focus on automotive products and services. Since 2004, he lives in Japan and China with his wife <a href="http://www.tomokoandbertel.com"> Tomoko </a>. Bertel Schmitt is a founding board member of the <a href="http://www.offshoresuperseries.com"> Offshore Super Series </a>, an American offshore powerboat racing organization. He is co-owner of the racing team Typhoon.

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  • Buickman Buickman on May 13, 2010

    let's keep it a bit less provocative.

    • PrincipalDan PrincipalDan on May 13, 2010

      OK then how bout this. Ford should have treated Mazda better during the time they've been working together cause Ford has gotten some great things from Mazda. The only reason the last generation of Escorts were worth a smack upside the head is that under the skin the cars were almost totally Mazda in their engineering. Ford and Mazda benefited more from their partnership than ANY partner GM has ever had.

  • Accs Accs on May 29, 2010

    Some things.. I just dont know. Ford has its 11%.. and I guess Mazda does decent in the U.S. They are a bit like the "Sporty" brand for Ford.. WITHOUT the HORRIBLE stigma of being a Ford. -- Linc / Merc. -- One reason why I'm stumbling over reasons to buy the new Focus HATCH v the Mazda3 hatch. What is stopping Ford from selling Mazda as Ford in China? Other auto companies have rebadged other vehicles in other markets.. as a placeholder. I could see how it could be difficult for a 3some.. so what "consolidation" is possible FOR that market.

  • ToolGuy The other day I attempted to check the engine oil in one of my old embarrassing vehicles and I guess the red shop towel I used wasn't genuine Snap-on (lots of counterfeits floating around) plus my driveway isn't completely level and long story short, the engine seized 3 minutes later.No more used cars for me, and nothing but dealer service from here on in (the journalists were right).
  • Doughboy Wow, Merc knocks it out of the park with their naming convention… again. /s
  • Doughboy I’ve seen car bras before, but never car beards. ZZ Top would be proud.
  • Bkojote Allright, actual person who knows trucks here, the article gets it a bit wrong.First off, the Maverick is not at all comparable to a Tacoma just because they're both Hybrids. Or lemme be blunt, the butch-est non-hybrid Maverick Tremor is suitable for 2/10 difficulty trails, a Trailhunter is for about 5/10 or maybe 6/10, just about the upper end of any stock vehicle you're buying from the factory. Aside from a Sasquatch Bronco or Rubicon Jeep Wrangler you're looking at something you're towing back if you want more capability (or perhaps something you /wish/ you were towing back.)Now, where the real world difference should play out is on the trail, where a lot of low speed crawling usually saps efficiency, especially when loaded to the gills. Real world MPG from a 4Runner is about 12-13mpg, So if this loaded-with-overlander-catalog Trailhunter is still pulling in the 20's - or even 18-19, that's a massive improvement.
  • Lou_BC "That’s expensive for a midsize pickup" All of the "offroad" midsize trucks fall in that 65k USD range. The ZR2 is probably the cheapest ( without Bison option).
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