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Quote of the Day: Steal a Little Thunder Edition
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Edward Niedermeyer
(IC: employee)
Published: August 11th, 2009
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“Nissan Leaf = 367 mpg, no tailpipe, and no gas required. Oh yeah, and it’ll be affordable too!”
NissanEV shoots back at the latest Volt hype on Twitter, using the same DOE estimate as GM. That hit from the PR crackpipe sure didn’t last long.
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Published August 11th, 2009 2:10 PM
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GM's PR victory is likely to be Pyrrhic. When GM announced the Volt, Toyota was probably happy to let GM have it's day "leapfrogging" Toyota with a car that was ridiculously uneconomic. However, the unexpected complete distortion of the EPA process has likely awakened a sense of alarm at Toyota HQ and the prospect of a Volt with an EPA rating (however meaningless) of 4X the Prius is something that they probably won't tolerate. I predict they will announce something. This was achieved locally, using a Prius, by a group of students with a small grant: 170MPG Prius That's just the talented kids. Imagine what Toyota's best people can do when they are really motivated to kick GM's butt on the 230mpg number. GM is going to rue the day they cooked the test.
folkdancer, You are exactly right. There is plenty of power off-peak and the incremental CO2 footprint of charging at leat the first big wave of xEVs is likely to be relatively small.
I don't see how this steals any thunder. The ratings are ridiculously high for both, and the Leaf's takes nothing away from the Volt's. The Volt takes a hit because it offers an extended range, which I think is a well-meaning and useful sacrifice. wsn : August 11th, 2009 at 3:15 pm # gordonjs : August 11th, 2009 at 3:11 pm I can use a Volt as my primary and only vehicle, I couldn’t use the Leaf as that, and neither could a lot of people. ———————————————– “A lot of people” cannot afford a $40k car. Period. "A lot of people" cannot afford the $25,000 - $33,000 estimated cost of the vaporware Leaf, either.