Review: 2009 Toyota Venza AWD V6 Take Two

Robert Farago
by Robert Farago

I’ve been resisting calling Toyota “the new GM” for some time. And yet the world’s largest automaker is falling into the same traps that scuppered GM’s empire. By creating the entirely extraneous Scion “youth brand,” Toyota stole a page right out of The General’s poisoned playbook. Luxury brand reaching downwards, hoisting itself by its own petard? Lexus does as Cadillac did. Listen closely and you can hear ominous rumblings about Toyota’s declining build quality; a cancer that afflicted GM even as it soared to its zenith. And most damning of all: Toyota’s increasing portfolio of redundant, ill-conceived, poorly-executed products. Add the new Venza to that list.

The Venza’s aesthetic crimes are not quite as obvious as, say, a clown at a piano recital (i.e., the FJ Cruiser). Quite the opposite; the Venza is invisibly derivative. Toyota’s we-swear-it’s-not-a-station wagon’s shape, size, stance and “cut” rear haunches suggest the same relationship with Mazda’s CX-7 that links the PT Cruiser and the Chevy HHR (i.e., a total rip-off). But the Venza’s details put paid to the thievery theory. The Venza’s front grill is all Hyundai, while Toyota cribbed the Venza’s rear from the Lexus RX350—and added a Bangle butt (just for fun).

The last thing the Venza looks like is the Toyota Camry that lies beneath. Which was, I suppose, the point. Anyway, love it or hate it, you can ignore it.

Wander inside the new Toyota Venza and the damage created by designer-led differentiation is glaringly obvious. The Venza’s rear seating is generous. Indeed, cavernous. Literally. And not in a good way. The gun slit windows (complete with privacy glass) take their toll on external connectivity. It’s no wonder Toyota’s spent a big chunk of its Venza marketing budget appealing to owners with pets. Unlike children, dogs don’t tend to vomit from claustrophobia.

In terms of visibility, the Venza’s front row is even worse. The CUV’s severely raked windscreen creates the Mother of All A pillars; an edifice so large it has its own opera windows (a perfect complement to the rear opera windows). Cleverly enough, Toyota’s placed an LCD display within the resulting dash-top desert. Looking backwards, the mail slot that passes for the Venza’s rear window makes you wish the [optional] backup camera was a full-time gizmo. The Venza’s three-quarter blind spots are large enough to hide a sequoia. Both tree and SUV.

The Toyota Venza seems perfectly screwed together; all the dour but durable plastics fit with brand faithful precision. The Venza’s phone/MP3 player holder is excellent—just as long as you don’t mind plugging-in your iPhone upside down. While the glove box lid opens with oil-dampened satisfaction (down boy), the other plastic covers are flimsy and imprecise. The Venza’s ICE unit is so old-fashioned-looking it Hertz. And then there are the two squares of mouse fur resting at the bottom of the center cubbies. These mini-mats don’t fit, they’re not glued down and the plastic underneath is hideous, in a glassine sort of way.

Along the same lines, 20″ wheels? Even the Venza’s four-wheel independent MacPherson strut suspension can’t ameliorate the harsh ride delivered by these stylish wagon wheels. The Venza crash bang wallops over surface imperfections with all the grace (and none of the determination) of a Toyota 4Runner. The Venza’s trick V6 puts out more than enough oomph to not worry about oomph and delivers enough mpg not to worry about mpg (18/25). Too bad the Venza’s six-speed autobox hunts for gears like a truffle-crazed pig, and the brakes’ initial bite starts somewhere near the floorboards, and the handling is . . . irrelevant. Suffice it to say, the new Toyota Venza is most comfortable highway cruising. Just don’t change lanes without a spotter.

Not to put too fine a point on it, the Venza is a Camry-on-stilts with questionable styling, crap visibility and big ass wheels. Sensibly specced, the CUV costs just under or just over 30 grand, depending on engine size, driven wheels, interior coverings, etc. Kentucky has yet to build the stripper four-cylinder front wheel-drive Venza (must maximize profits while demand is, uh . . . ). The entry level Venza should clock-in somewhere around $26K before discounts. Which raises an interesting question: what the hell is Toyota doing? How does the Venza fit into Toyota’s product pantheon?

The RAV4 (and Mazda CX-7) are cheaper than the Venza. The Highlander is about the same price. All three alternatives offer better visibility, better packaging, similar mpg and equal, if not superior, inclement weather capability. You can easily understand why Toyota wants to build the Venza: flexible manufacturing and all that. But not why anyone would want to buy one. In fact, the new Toyota Venza proves the old adage: just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. As GM proved.

[Read Martin Martineck’s Venza review here.]

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  • Richard0729 Richard0729 on Sep 06, 2009

    I liked Robert Farago's Venza review. One thing he pointed out is the blind spot pillar. I drive on Texas I-35 where big rigs rule. I grew up on California freeway driving. When I say rule, I mean they get you in any lane you're in and you better be able to see left and right if you want to quickly get out of their way -- which I do. The main reason I'm looking at the Venza is because my wife really likes the styling. Right now I'm driving a 2007 Honda Pilot which I love. She doesn't because she thinks it's like sitting in a truck. The Pilot has great visibility and the handling is decent considering it's an SUV. I put in a Pioneer navigation shortly after we purchased it. The mileage is way better than I expected, about 19 to 20 city and 24+ on the highway. It has cylinder management which brings it down to 3 cylinders on freeway driving and it's hardly noticeable. I don't like the Venza based on the several reviews I've read. I'll compromise and go for a test ride but I'll admit I'm soured on the what I've read so far. I've owned Ford, Chevy, VW, BMW, Audi, AMC Rambler (ashamed to admit it), Toyota (car and pickup truck). I'm older, maybe not wiser but I have no qualms about saying the Pilot is the best vehicle I've owned. Age has a way of moderating one's views.

  • Newbreed Newbreed on Sep 20, 2009

    Myself and my wife just purchase a Venza, and we love it. We are both diehard Honda fans, but wanted a family vehicle that was roomy, good on gas, and all wheel drive for our Canadian winter. I really do question some of the feedback on here. The Venza has some key features that makes it stand out in the Toyota line up. The Rav4 cost's about $4,000 CND less than the Venza, but does have nearly as much room as the Venza and it's swing arm door would be a pain. Driving up to a curb to drop off something and have to walk around the door to get to the curb. It's just not practical. Why have a bigger vehicle to haul around stuff, just to have it's door get in the way when offloading? The Highlander cost's about $4,000 CND more than the Venza. If the Venza is so much more expensive than the Rav4, why is the Highlander being compared? With the third row seating folded down, it does seem to have as much rear cargo space as the Venza. But it can only take four people. The Venza can take five, and have as much room. The Sienna also burns more gas than the Venza. Plus the mini van family vehicle is really played out. The Venza offers something different. If your looking for a roomy vehicle that's good on gas. The Venza wins hands down in the Toyota line up. I don't understand how people question Toyota marketing. As far as styling, I understand, different strokes for different folks. But I have has so many people come up to me and ask me about our Venza. They love the styling, room and big rims. When I tell them the gas mileage they are floored. The 4cyl engine is smooth and has more than enough power for city and highway driving. From owing and drive a Venza in the heart of downtown Toronto, just stupid crazy traffic sometimes, well all the time really lol, changing lanes is on par with my Civic. It's a bit longer, but every car has a blind spot. Changing lanes in a Venza is not difficult. For the ladies, a nice feature is that my wife was able to put her purse in the centre console. Her purse is not small. For the guys, four gold bags can fit in the rear no problem.

  • FreedMike VW tossed in two years' maintenance on my car, and the next one's due after the lease is up. But all the car's needed has been oil changes and tire rotations. Unfortunately, the OEM tires (Hankook Kinergy) were unrepentant trash and needed to be replaced at around 23,000 miles. So...my maintenance cost over over a little under three years has been t $800 for the new tires. That sucks, but the new tires (Goodyear Eagle Sport) are a massive upgrade over the Hankooks. Ah well.
  • Rna65689660 2015 Ford Edge V6 AWD: 176k miles. One set of Cooper tires, rear brakes, rear struts. Oil change every 10k miles. 1 battery, trans and coolant flush at 100k.2013 MINI Cooper S 6mt: 117k miles. Oil change every 10k, 4 sets tires, 3 sets brakes, rotors twice, 2 windshields,1 HVAC rheostat, 1 cv boot cover. This week pcv valve with valve cover and coolant thermostat, lower radiator hose.The MINI gets driven harder.
  • Zipper69 Is Toyota trying to squeeze into a space between the mid and full size trucks, both ICE and hybrid?That market can only be sliced so thin until it's a continuous, amorphous mélange and a confused market and irritated buyers.
  • FreedMike I have it on good authority that Subaru asked Subaru buyers what they wanted out of the Legacy, and they came up with the following cryptic mission: "So outdoorsy I can feel the poison ivy." Subsequently, they tried to add at least 10 square yards of black plastic cladding to the side of the Legacy, creating the Legacy "Lost In The Woods" edition, but the supplier pulled out, thus sealing the Legacy's fate. RIP.
  • Zipper69 Speedmaster may be feeling their collar a little here...
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