Attempted Viper Buyout Likely Occurred Before Chrysler's Bankruptcy

Steph Willems
by Steph Willems
We know that Chrysler put its Viper operations up for grabs as the company — and country — spiraled into economic disaster back in 2008, but the date of the V10-powered sports car’s near-salvation at the hands of investors is hazy.James Glickenhaus, the actor, economic adviser and small-batch supercar builder, told TTAC’s Ronnie Schreiber that a group of buyers almost saved the Viper and its Detroit assembly plant, but the deal fell through. Which is why the Viper is going away, right about….now.But Glickenhaus left out a key detail of his recollection — the date.“A private group wanted to buy Viper and approached FCA who were receptive. This private group asked me for advice and I gave it to them,” Glickenhaus told TTAC. He added that he advised against the plan (which he describes as taking place several years ago), and the would-be deal ultimately went nowhere.Glickenhaus can’t recall exactly when the wealthy investors approached the automaker, but Road & Track believes it was between the 2008 Viper offering and the company’s 2009 bankruptcy. That means the proposed deal wasn’t with Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, but Cerberus, then-owner of Chrysler LLC.Glickenhaus told R&T that the group had the cash to back up any deal. “They were a bunch of enthusiasts and they thought there was value in the Viper name, the plant, and [the car itself],” he said.Why didn’t Glickenhaus approve of the deal? “I thought that car was pretty tired, and it needed a revamping,” he told R&T. “They would have come up with a better car . . . [but] they’d be spending a lot of money to do it.”At the time of Chrysler LLC’s bankruptcy filing, the automaker claimed there wasn’t much interest in the Viper. Court documents later revealed that wasn’t the case. At least two groups approached Chrysler before May, 2009, but that’s ancient history now.After the limited-edition 2017s leave the factory, it’s lights out for a model introduced by Lee Iacocca a quarter century ago. Three corporate makeovers since Iacocca told Bob Lutz to “Go build the damn thing, will ya?”, the company wants nothing to do with its halo car.
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  • SCE to AUX SCE to AUX on Aug 05, 2016

    “They would have come up with a better car . . . [but] they’d be spending a lot of money to do it.” This is exactly what I suspected. Sometimes the blind squirrel gets the nut. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/08/exclusive-group-investors-attempted-buy-dodge-viper-tooling-assembly-facility/#comment-8159618 It's not today's Viper that matters; it's tomorrow's.

  • Boxerman Boxerman on Aug 05, 2016

    The chasis and suspension of the curent viper is by alla counts pretty excellent, the bodywork is easily changed as its plastic cladding. What really holds the car back imo is the engine. Not the power thats ecellent, but it sounds like a vacum cleaner fart, and its simply not exotic. Within the scale of doing things "inexpesively" a viper with a ryan falocner pushrod v12 for under 150k would be an extremly compelling car. Maybe there is a group to buy viper now, we know sergio is a seller.

  • CoastieLenn I would do dirrrrrrty things for a pristine 95-96 Thunderbird SC.
  • Whynotaztec Like any other lease offer it makes sense to compare it to a purchase and see where you end up. The math isn’t all that hard and sometimes a lease can make sense, sometimes it can’t. the tough part with EVs now is where is the residual or trade in value going to be in 3 years?
  • Rick T. "If your driving conditions include near-freezing temps for a few months of the year, seek out a set of all-seasons. But if sunshine is frequent and the spectre of 60F weather strikes fear into the hearts of your neighbourhood, all-seasons could be a great choice." So all-seasons it is, apparently!
  • 1995 SC Should anyone here get a wild hair and buy this I have the 500 dollar tool you need to bleed the rear brakes if you have to crack open the ABS. Given the state you will. I love these cars (obviously) but trust me, as an owner you will be miles ahead to shell out for one that was maintained. But properly sorted these things will devour highway miles and that 4.6 will run forever and should be way less of a diva than my blown 3.8 equipped one. (and forget the NA 3.8...140HP was no match for this car).As an aside, if you drive this you will instantly realize how ergonomically bad modern cars are.These wheels look like the 17's you could get on a Fox Body Cobra R. I've always had it in the back of my mind to get a set in the right bolt pattern so I could upgrade the brakes but I just don't want to mess up the ride. If that was too much to read, from someone intamately familiar with MN-12's, skip this one. The ground effects alone make it worth a pass. They are not esecially easy to work on either.
  • Macca This one definitely brings back memories - my dad was a Ford-guy through the '80s and into the '90s, and my family had two MN12 vehicles, a '93 Thunderbird LX (maroon over gray) purchased for my mom around 1995 and an '89 Cougar LS (white over red velour, digital dash) for my brother's second car acquired a year or so later. The Essex V6's 140 hp was wholly inadequate for the ~3,600 lb car, but the look of the T-Bird seemed fairly exotic at the time in a small Midwest town. This was of course pre-modern internet days and we had no idea of the Essex head gasket woes held in store for both cars.The first to grenade was my bro's Cougar, circa 1997. My dad found a crate 3.8L and a local mechanic replaced it - though the new engine never felt quite right (rough idle). I remember expecting something miraculous from the new engine and then realizing that it was substandard even when new. Shortly thereafter my dad replaced the Thunderbird for my mom and took the Cougar for a new highway commute, giving my brother the Thunderbird. Not long after, the T-Bird's 3.8L V6 also suffered from head gasket failure which spelled its demise again under my brother's ownership. The stately Cougar was sold to a family member and it suffered the same head gasket fate with about 60,000 miles on the new engine.Combine this with multiple first-gen Taurus transmission issues and a lemon '86 Aerostar and my dad's brand loyalty came to an end in the late '90s with his purchase of a fourth-gen Maxima. I saw a mid-90s Thunderbird the other day for the first time in ages and it's still a fairly handsome design. Shame the mechanicals were such a letdown.
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