In Which An Editor Goes Car Shopping

Mark Stevenson
by Mark Stevenson

At virtually every other automotive outlet for whom I’ve worked, the communication between writer and reader has been a one-way street. I give advice. The reader listens. Whether the reader acts on that advice is completely unknown. Also, the reader never gives advice to the writer.

Thankfully, TTAC is different and the Best & Brightest will drop a nugget of information in the comments that I can use not only in my professional life, but in my personal life as well.

And it’s on this advice that I drove 2 1/2 hours to Moncton to drive a 2015 Dodge Charger R/T Road and Track.

Thanks to BunkerMan’s information, I sent an email to Moncton Chrysler Jeep Dodge to make sure the car was in stock. It was. Within 30 minutes, my girlfriend and I planned a day trip to Moncton.

I know I can be long winded, so I am going to keep the rest of this short. Here were my impressions of the car and new-car shopping in general.

The Charger R/T sounds incredible, but the Road and Track package takes away a number of characteristics from the Charger SXT Rallye V6 AWD that made me fall in love with the LX-platformed four door.

  • The R/T Road and Track comes with 20 inch wheels as standard with minimal tire sidewall, hampering comfort.
  • “Sport Suspension” appears on the order sheet.
  • The plush seats are gone, replaced with sport buckets that mimic school bus benches in their comfortability. This is exacerbated by the fact I couldn’t get the power-adjustable seat low enough.
  • There’s not much more in the power department over the V-6, though there isn’t a massive jump in price either.

That said, there is a Scat Pack nearby now, but I’m fairly certain based on my test drive of the R/T Road and Track that the more performance-oriented model won’t be for me either. It looks like I’ll need to find a normal R/T before making any decisions.

Besides the car itself, the dealership itself turned me off from the whole car shopping experience. I don’t mean the salesman. Paul was a stellar guy and far from pushy. He knew I wouldn’t be buying that day but still catered to my needs. The dealership was holding a “sale weekend”, complete with plexiglass cash grab booth and a showroom floor — devoid of cars — covered in “free” household appliances.

I thought we were beyond this kind of sales gimmickry, but it looks like I was wrong.

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  • Countymountie Countymountie on Aug 24, 2015

    Good luck on your search. I flew from Denver to Oklahoma City to pick up a 2014 Charger RT Max. It has a great ride even with the 20" wheels. It even floats a little bit like the old malaise era boats I love. Why the distance? I wanted RWD which is hard to find since everything in CO is AWD. I also wanted one with something other than an all black interior. The tan leather is a great color and the deal on the car was incredible, about 8k off sticker at the cost of a $125 plane ticket. I already knew what I wanted though since I previously owned a 2012 clone. Had a family member check it out in person though before I took the plunge.

  • Nrd515 Nrd515 on Aug 27, 2015

    It kind of seems to be you are doing everything you can to avoid buying the Charger. If the suspension is too hard, order one with 18" wheels and it will ride much softer. I find your comments about the power differences between the 3.6 V6 and 5.7 V8 to be, well, odd. I drive a V6 300 quite often, along with a 300C once in a while, and the difference is not minor in any way. Both cars have the 8 speed auto and have 20" wheels. Maybe you needed to reset the adaptives? If the V8 was driven "like an old man", it will not show what it's really capable of. When I had my 2008 Charger R/T (Not a Road and Track) it rode pretty decently, but my 2010 Challenger R/T rides a LOT softer. I was kind of surprised, it's almost as smooth riding as my Ex-GF's 2011 300C.

  • CoastieLenn I would do dirrrrrrty things for a pristine 95-96 Thunderbird SC.
  • Whynotaztec Like any other lease offer it makes sense to compare it to a purchase and see where you end up. The math isn’t all that hard and sometimes a lease can make sense, sometimes it can’t. the tough part with EVs now is where is the residual or trade in value going to be in 3 years?
  • Rick T. "If your driving conditions include near-freezing temps for a few months of the year, seek out a set of all-seasons. But if sunshine is frequent and the spectre of 60F weather strikes fear into the hearts of your neighbourhood, all-seasons could be a great choice." So all-seasons it is, apparently!
  • 1995 SC Should anyone here get a wild hair and buy this I have the 500 dollar tool you need to bleed the rear brakes if you have to crack open the ABS. Given the state you will. I love these cars (obviously) but trust me, as an owner you will be miles ahead to shell out for one that was maintained. But properly sorted these things will devour highway miles and that 4.6 will run forever and should be way less of a diva than my blown 3.8 equipped one. (and forget the NA 3.8...140HP was no match for this car).As an aside, if you drive this you will instantly realize how ergonomically bad modern cars are.These wheels look like the 17's you could get on a Fox Body Cobra R. I've always had it in the back of my mind to get a set in the right bolt pattern so I could upgrade the brakes but I just don't want to mess up the ride. If that was too much to read, from someone intamately familiar with MN-12's, skip this one. The ground effects alone make it worth a pass. They are not esecially easy to work on either.
  • Macca This one definitely brings back memories - my dad was a Ford-guy through the '80s and into the '90s, and my family had two MN12 vehicles, a '93 Thunderbird LX (maroon over gray) purchased for my mom around 1995 and an '89 Cougar LS (white over red velour, digital dash) for my brother's second car acquired a year or so later. The Essex V6's 140 hp was wholly inadequate for the ~3,600 lb car, but the look of the T-Bird seemed fairly exotic at the time in a small Midwest town. This was of course pre-modern internet days and we had no idea of the Essex head gasket woes held in store for both cars.The first to grenade was my bro's Cougar, circa 1997. My dad found a crate 3.8L and a local mechanic replaced it - though the new engine never felt quite right (rough idle). I remember expecting something miraculous from the new engine and then realizing that it was substandard even when new. Shortly thereafter my dad replaced the Thunderbird for my mom and took the Cougar for a new highway commute, giving my brother the Thunderbird. Not long after, the T-Bird's 3.8L V6 also suffered from head gasket failure which spelled its demise again under my brother's ownership. The stately Cougar was sold to a family member and it suffered the same head gasket fate with about 60,000 miles on the new engine.Combine this with multiple first-gen Taurus transmission issues and a lemon '86 Aerostar and my dad's brand loyalty came to an end in the late '90s with his purchase of a fourth-gen Maxima. I saw a mid-90s Thunderbird the other day for the first time in ages and it's still a fairly handsome design. Shame the mechanicals were such a letdown.
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