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	<title>Comments on: WSJ Jenkins: The Volt Sucks, CAFE Must Die and Obama&#8217;s a Fraud</title>
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		<title>By: KixStart</title>
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		<dc:creator>KixStart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuel stability isn&#039;t a problem for the Volt... take it on a trip out of town every quarter and use up the gas.  Or add Sta-bil.

What &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; a problem for the Volt is GM&#039;s inability or unwillingness to build it in volumes that make a difference in the near future, its excessive price, its compromised capability and the fact that, at all times, the car will be dragging an anchor.  Sometimes the anchor is the engine and sometimes the anchor is the battery but, any way you slice it, it&#039;s dragging an anchor along.

Jenkins got the gas issue wrong but he&#039;s still right about the Volt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Fuel stability isn&#8217;t a problem for the Volt&#8230; take it on a trip out of town every quarter and use up the gas.  Or add Sta-bil.</p>
<p>What <em>is</em> a problem for the Volt is GM&#8217;s inability or unwillingness to build it in volumes that make a difference in the near future, its excessive price, its compromised capability and the fact that, at all times, the car will be dragging an anchor.  Sometimes the anchor is the engine and sometimes the anchor is the battery but, any way you slice it, it&#8217;s dragging an anchor along.</p>
<p>Jenkins got the gas issue wrong but he&#8217;s still right about the Volt.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: fallout11</title>
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		<dc:creator>fallout11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenkins: Gasoline goes bad after a few months…

I recently ran stored 3+ year old non-stabilized jerrycanned RUG through my 2002 Ranger (w/ancient Vulcan pushrod) without a hiccup. The computer didn&#039;t care and compensated for any octane deviance that might have been present.</description>
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<p>I recently ran stored 3+ year old non-stabilized jerrycanned RUG through my 2002 Ranger (w/ancient Vulcan pushrod) without a hiccup. The computer didn&#8217;t care and compensated for any octane deviance that might have been present.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: br549</title>
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		<dc:creator>br549</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Actually–and I say this as a flag-burning commie myself–ideological myopia strikes both the left and right extremes.&lt;/em&gt;

I agree 100%. And I admire your courage in eloquently defending your convictions as a member of the minority around here. I don&#039;t see myself as an ideologue so much as a realistic student of history and honest interpreter of current events. I see that quality in Bernanke. He&#039;s a realist. 

I get a kick out of those, clinging to their market purity, who speak as though they have a crystal ball before them while completely ignoring any lessons of the past.  Unfortunately, there is a tendency (here, there, and everywhere, I guess) to &lt;em&gt;categorize&lt;/em&gt; those with whom we disagree as representatives of extremes when often they&#039;re not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Actually–and I say this as a flag-burning commie myself–ideological myopia strikes both the left and right extremes.</em></p>
<p>I agree 100%. And I admire your courage in eloquently defending your convictions as a member of the minority around here. I don&#8217;t see myself as an ideologue so much as a realistic student of history and honest interpreter of current events. I see that quality in Bernanke. He&#8217;s a realist. </p>
<p>I get a kick out of those, clinging to their market purity, who speak as though they have a crystal ball before them while completely ignoring any lessons of the past.  Unfortunately, there is a tendency (here, there, and everywhere, I guess) to <em>categorize</em> those with whom we disagree as representatives of extremes when often they&#8217;re not.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ra_pro</title>
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		<dc:creator>ra_pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jenkins: Gasoline goes bad after a few months... 

Never heard of it never seen it. On the contrary, seen and personally experienced numerous cases where a car ran fine after being parked in the driveway for months even a year.

That&#039;s all I need to know about Mr. Jenkin&#039;s brilliance as an automotive writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Jenkins: Gasoline goes bad after a few months&#8230; </p>
<p>Never heard of it never seen it. On the contrary, seen and personally experienced numerous cases where a car ran fine after being parked in the driveway for months even a year.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I need to know about Mr. Jenkin&#8217;s brilliance as an automotive writer.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: T2</title>
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		<dc:creator>T2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, as Jacob writes, we need such a tax to bring gas up to $5 gallon. I see many permanently capped pickups or seven seater SUVs with a lone driver - perhaps higher gas prices will get the message across. It also does nothing for road safety out on the highway to have a plenitude of these large empty vehicles effectively blocking the views of those following behind.

As for the Volt. Auto engineers design what they&#039;re told. Like the Camaro this is the flight of fancy of a senior exec and has nothing to do with providing for the mass market which should be the core business for GM wouldn&#039;t you say ?

The Volt with its 16KWHr battery continues to take heat based on its marketability. OTOH a less expensive battery-free VOLT is possible and would still deliver most of the advantages of hybridisation. Full decoupling of the engine in the Volt, as opposed to the partial decoupling of the Prius engine, should allow an even smaller engine perhaps under 1.0 Liter to be fitted.

 You have to understand that the efficacy of the Toyota HSD system though obviously superior to a conventional mechanical multistage transmission still manages to place a limit on engine revs and hence power whereas the Volt system does not. My vision is that this simpler type of powertrain could achieve a  reduced price point and present a significant challenge to the coming release of future Honda and Toyota hybrid products.
T2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Yes, as Jacob writes, we need such a tax to bring gas up to $5 gallon. I see many permanently capped pickups or seven seater SUVs with a lone driver &#8211; perhaps higher gas prices will get the message across. It also does nothing for road safety out on the highway to have a plenitude of these large empty vehicles effectively blocking the views of those following behind.</p>
<p>As for the Volt. Auto engineers design what they&#8217;re told. Like the Camaro this is the flight of fancy of a senior exec and has nothing to do with providing for the mass market which should be the core business for GM wouldn&#8217;t you say ?</p>
<p>The Volt with its 16KWHr battery continues to take heat based on its marketability. OTOH a less expensive battery-free VOLT is possible and would still deliver most of the advantages of hybridisation. Full decoupling of the engine in the Volt, as opposed to the partial decoupling of the Prius engine, should allow an even smaller engine perhaps under 1.0 Liter to be fitted.</p>
<p> You have to understand that the efficacy of the Toyota HSD system though obviously superior to a conventional mechanical multistage transmission still manages to place a limit on engine revs and hence power whereas the Volt system does not. My vision is that this simpler type of powertrain could achieve a  reduced price point and present a significant challenge to the coming release of future Honda and Toyota hybrid products.<br />
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		<title>By: AG</title>
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		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest problem we face is political.  Jenkins and the WSJ don&#039;t really care about fixing Detroit they only care about killing the UAW.

Nobody actually wants to fix this country&#039;s problems, they just want to win.  Until that changes, everything is only going to keep getting worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The biggest problem we face is political.  Jenkins and the WSJ don&#8217;t really care about fixing Detroit they only care about killing the UAW.</p>
<p>Nobody actually wants to fix this country&#8217;s problems, they just want to win.  Until that changes, everything is only going to keep getting worse.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: David Holzman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Holzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People don&#039;t stay stupid forever. I think the time has come for a carbon tax (and maybe a gas tax on top of that, to compensate for the cost of military adventures and uncertainty of supply), and I think Obama just might be the guy to get it passed. And despite the fact that I come from the opposite side of the political spectrum from Holman Jenkins, I think he makes some good points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->People don&#8217;t stay stupid forever. I think the time has come for a carbon tax (and maybe a gas tax on top of that, to compensate for the cost of military adventures and uncertainty of supply), and I think Obama just might be the guy to get it passed. And despite the fact that I come from the opposite side of the political spectrum from Holman Jenkins, I think he makes some good points.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% with what he says. Gas tax will work better than the CAFE or the &quot;green&quot; corporate welfare handouts. Bring the price of gas to $5 per gallon (in 2008 dollars, so probably more than $5 in 2010 dollars) over a course of say five years. This will have a much stronger effect on the fuel efficiency and the emissions of the vehicles than any CAFE or tax handouts will. Yes, this will be politically difficult to do, but then, after this nation elected a black president with relatively little experience and known connections to shady people and who run against a Vietnam war hero, I think everything should be possible..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I agree 100% with what he says. Gas tax will work better than the CAFE or the &#8220;green&#8221; corporate welfare handouts. Bring the price of gas to $5 per gallon (in 2008 dollars, so probably more than $5 in 2010 dollars) over a course of say five years. This will have a much stronger effect on the fuel efficiency and the emissions of the vehicles than any CAFE or tax handouts will. Yes, this will be politically difficult to do, but then, after this nation elected a black president with relatively little experience and known connections to shady people and who run against a Vietnam war hero, I think everything should be possible..<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;This is the problem with ideologues — they get so fixated on upholding an abstract idea that they can’t see reality until it slaps them in the face.
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Preach it brother, but be prepared to be called everthing save a flag burning commie for your trouble.&lt;/em&gt;

Actually--and I say this as a flag-burning commie myself--ideological myopia strikes both the left and right extremes.  Mind you, extreme right-wingers usually get more soapbox time in North America, so you&#039;d be forgiven thinking it was the right alone.

I agree with scrapping CAFE in favour of a gas tax, but I also agree with posters who&#039;ve stated that this will never happen.  Americans just do not support broad, proportional taxes; they prefer either nickel-and-time usage fees and/or supply-side constraints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>This is the problem with ideologues — they get so fixated on upholding an abstract idea that they can’t see reality until it slaps them in the face.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Preach it brother, but be prepared to be called everthing save a flag burning commie for your trouble.</em></p>
<p>Actually&#8211;and I say this as a flag-burning commie myself&#8211;ideological myopia strikes both the left and right extremes.  Mind you, extreme right-wingers usually get more soapbox time in North America, so you&#8217;d be forgiven thinking it was the right alone.</p>
<p>I agree with scrapping CAFE in favour of a gas tax, but I also agree with posters who&#8217;ve stated that this will never happen.  Americans just do not support broad, proportional taxes; they prefer either nickel-and-time usage fees and/or supply-side constraints.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thw WSJ has not supported Bush&#039;s economic policies during the past eight years.  The editorial board supported his tax cuts, but not his spending policies.  They have been advocates of lower taxes, lower spending, and smaller government for a long time.  Bush only got that half right.
Furthermore, Jenkins was not advocating a gas tax; he is simply pointing out that it is disingenuous to dictate to auto makers what they should make, if it is contrary to what the public wants to buy.  The only way to make the public want higher mileage cars is to raise the price of gas.  I am sure Jenkins thinks that there should be neither CAFE standards nor a gas tax.  I agree with him that there would be nothing more foolish than loaning money to GM, doing nothing about the union/too many dealers/too many divisions problems, and mandating that GM make &quot;green&quot; cars.  That would be a terrible waste of money and, ultimately, jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thw WSJ has not supported Bush&#8217;s economic policies during the past eight years.  The editorial board supported his tax cuts, but not his spending policies.  They have been advocates of lower taxes, lower spending, and smaller government for a long time.  Bush only got that half right.<br />
Furthermore, Jenkins was not advocating a gas tax; he is simply pointing out that it is disingenuous to dictate to auto makers what they should make, if it is contrary to what the public wants to buy.  The only way to make the public want higher mileage cars is to raise the price of gas.  I am sure Jenkins thinks that there should be neither CAFE standards nor a gas tax.  I agree with him that there would be nothing more foolish than loaning money to GM, doing nothing about the union/too many dealers/too many divisions problems, and mandating that GM make &#8220;green&#8221; cars.  That would be a terrible waste of money and, ultimately, jobs.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: edgett</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that Jenkins and others can take Obama on regarding leadership on the bailout issue, given that a part of the reason these companies need a bailout is the total vacuum of leadership on the issue. The tax incentive which allowed companies to expense the entire cost of a &gt;6000lb vehicle is part of the reason GM, Ford and Chrysler got to this place.

Nonetheless, that was then and this is now. As much as I still like the idea that we should have American companies manufacturing automobiles (and lots of other things), we have shown that as investors, we&#039;re interested solely in short term value. We the people have allowed a tax and accounting structure to arise which has created the likes of GM, and for that matter Lehman Bros and Bear Stearns. We still want to believe the siren song that we can get something for nothing.

Corporate &quot;leadership&quot; has simply evolved to most take advantage of this lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Interesting that Jenkins and others can take Obama on regarding leadership on the bailout issue, given that a part of the reason these companies need a bailout is the total vacuum of leadership on the issue. The tax incentive which allowed companies to expense the entire cost of a &gt;6000lb vehicle is part of the reason GM, Ford and Chrysler got to this place.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, that was then and this is now. As much as I still like the idea that we should have American companies manufacturing automobiles (and lots of other things), we have shown that as investors, we&#8217;re interested solely in short term value. We the people have allowed a tax and accounting structure to arise which has created the likes of GM, and for that matter Lehman Bros and Bear Stearns. We still want to believe the siren song that we can get something for nothing.</p>
<p>Corporate &#8220;leadership&#8221; has simply evolved to most take advantage of this lie.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: br549</title>
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		<dc:creator>br549</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;This is the problem with ideologues — they get so fixated on upholding an abstract idea that they can’t see reality until it slaps them in the face. &lt;/em&gt;

Preach it brother, but be prepared to be called everthing save a flag burning commie for your trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>This is the problem with ideologues — they get so fixated on upholding an abstract idea that they can’t see reality until it slaps them in the face. </em></p>
<p>Preach it brother, but be prepared to be called everthing save a flag burning commie for your trouble.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Adub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, based on your inability to read what Jenkins has written in the past, you decide to disregard what he has written now? I might ask what is on your list of publications and abstracts? 

I sense you feel slighted by his treatment of soon-to-be President Obama...</description>
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		<title>By: Martin Schwoerer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Schwoerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes exactly, why take Jenkins seriously? When was the last time he wrote anything at all interesting, or for that matter, even to the point?</description>
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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he&#039;s got a solid point about CAFE and the gas tax. Of course, pointing out economically insane and stupid laws from Washington is shooting fish in a barrel. Sheesh, look how long we&#039;ve had retarded farm subsidies. 

His point about the &#039;two fleet rule&#039; needs expanding. 

His point about The One may pan out. A cynic (which Jenkins may be) would suggest The One resigned from the Senate to avoid making a bailout vote. Or point out The One&#039;s lack of proposals/leadership regarding a bailout. 

&lt;i&gt;Dr Lemming:
In other words, did Jenkins complain in 2000 and 2004 that the Bush policy agendas bore very little resemblance to the empty platitudes that he ran on?&lt;/i&gt;

Jenkins is consistent. He beat up the GOP for it&#039;s spending and corruption ways. Of course, when it comes to mocking derisiveness, he tends to pick Democrats.

&lt;i&gt;If not, why take Jenkins seriously?&lt;/i&gt;

His epic take on the Pruis wadded eco-panties nationwide:
http://blog.vehiclevoice.com/2005/11/dear_valued_hybrid_customer.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I think he&#8217;s got a solid point about CAFE and the gas tax. Of course, pointing out economically insane and stupid laws from Washington is shooting fish in a barrel. Sheesh, look how long we&#8217;ve had retarded farm subsidies. </p>
<p>His point about the &#8216;two fleet rule&#8217; needs expanding. </p>
<p>His point about The One may pan out. A cynic (which Jenkins may be) would suggest The One resigned from the Senate to avoid making a bailout vote. Or point out The One&#8217;s lack of proposals/leadership regarding a bailout. </p>
<p><i>Dr Lemming:<br />
In other words, did Jenkins complain in 2000 and 2004 that the Bush policy agendas bore very little resemblance to the empty platitudes that he ran on?</i></p>
<p>Jenkins is consistent. He beat up the GOP for it&#8217;s spending and corruption ways. Of course, when it comes to mocking derisiveness, he tends to pick Democrats.</p>
<p><i>If not, why take Jenkins seriously?</i></p>
<p>His epic take on the Pruis wadded eco-panties nationwide:<br />
<a href="http://blog.vehiclevoice.com/2005/11/dear_valued_hybrid_customer.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.vehiclevoice.com/2005/11/dear_valued_hybrid_customer.html</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Dr Lemming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Lemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is about what I&#039;d expect from the Wall Street Journal&#039;s editorial page, which is one of the most conservative in the country.  Over the last eight years it has generally been a knee-jerk supporter of the Bush administration&#039;s economic agenda.

So Jenkins wants a gas tax to replace CAFE.  Sure, lots of folks across the political spectrum do.  But that&#039;s DOA -- and has been for years -- because of the rabidly anti-tax political right.  If Obama proposed a major gas tax the Dems would be utterly destroyed in Congressional elections two years from now.  So for Jenkins to push that meme is akin to Lucy offering to hold the football.  

It seems pretty silly for Jenkins to imply that the Chrysler loan guarantees were bad public policy.  The simple fact of the matter is that they worked, both for taxpayers and for Chrysler.  This is the problem with ideologues -- they get so fixated on upholding an abstract idea that they can&#039;t see reality until it slaps them in the face. 

I haven&#039;t followed Jenkins so I&#039;m curious if he is intellectually honest in his critique of what he sees as Obama&#039;s &quot;handwaving designed to capture the presidency rather than tell voters what really to expect.&quot;  In other words, did Jenkins complain in 2000 and 2004 that the Bush policy agendas bore very little resemblance to the empty platitudes that he ran on?  

If not, why take Jenkins seriously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This is about what I&#8217;d expect from the Wall Street Journal&#8217;s editorial page, which is one of the most conservative in the country.  Over the last eight years it has generally been a knee-jerk supporter of the Bush administration&#8217;s economic agenda.</p>
<p>So Jenkins wants a gas tax to replace CAFE.  Sure, lots of folks across the political spectrum do.  But that&#8217;s DOA &#8212; and has been for years &#8212; because of the rabidly anti-tax political right.  If Obama proposed a major gas tax the Dems would be utterly destroyed in Congressional elections two years from now.  So for Jenkins to push that meme is akin to Lucy offering to hold the football.  </p>
<p>It seems pretty silly for Jenkins to imply that the Chrysler loan guarantees were bad public policy.  The simple fact of the matter is that they worked, both for taxpayers and for Chrysler.  This is the problem with ideologues &#8212; they get so fixated on upholding an abstract idea that they can&#8217;t see reality until it slaps them in the face. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t followed Jenkins so I&#8217;m curious if he is intellectually honest in his critique of what he sees as Obama&#8217;s &#8220;handwaving designed to capture the presidency rather than tell voters what really to expect.&#8221;  In other words, did Jenkins complain in 2000 and 2004 that the Bush policy agendas bore very little resemblance to the empty platitudes that he ran on?  </p>
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		<title>By: toxicroach</title>
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		<dc:creator>toxicroach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a new bailout plan pop into my head when I woke up this morning.

1) GM goes C11; govt. provides debtor in possession financing. 

2) Govt. provides emergency loans to stabilize the suppliers in the aftermath of the bankruptcy.

3) Bridge loans to Ford when/if they need them.</description>
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<p>1) GM goes C11; govt. provides debtor in possession financing. </p>
<p>2) Govt. provides emergency loans to stabilize the suppliers in the aftermath of the bankruptcy.</p>
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		<title>By: ferrarimanf355</title>
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		<dc:creator>ferrarimanf355</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The WSJ fell the hell off since NewsCorp got their hands on it.</description>
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		<title>By: Dutchchris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dutchchris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People still don&#039;t quite understand what the Volt is all about. They still think that GM is aiming at the consumer market with this car. But they&#039;re not. It&#039;s firmly aimed at the government market of tax credits and (green)bailout money. It&#039;s something to show of to politicians craving for oil independence and saving the planet. It&#039;s something to convince them that great things are on the horizon if they just gave them the G*ddamn money already.

 Of course they know that nobody will actually buy it. It would take about $250/barrel oil for this car to start making economic sense and even than it would be blasted away by china&#039;s BYD which is already about to launch  it&#039;s F3DM PHEV  with a longer all-electric range at about half the price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->People still don&#8217;t quite understand what the Volt is all about. They still think that GM is aiming at the consumer market with this car. But they&#8217;re not. It&#8217;s firmly aimed at the government market of tax credits and (green)bailout money. It&#8217;s something to show of to politicians craving for oil independence and saving the planet. It&#8217;s something to convince them that great things are on the horizon if they just gave them the G*ddamn money already.</p>
<p> Of course they know that nobody will actually buy it. It would take about $250/barrel oil for this car to start making economic sense and even than it would be blasted away by china&#8217;s BYD which is already about to launch  it&#8217;s F3DM PHEV  with a longer all-electric range at about half the price.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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