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	<title>Comments on: GMAC Hits The Brakes: &#8220;We&#8217;ve been writing fewer 72-month loans&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Liger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I financed a 2006 GTO for 72 months around the 4th of July in 2006, when GM was running it&#039;s 72 hour sale.  0% for 72 months is a great deal.  Why wouldn&#039;t you take advantage of no interest on a car for 6 years?

I don&#039;t think I would finance a car paying interest for 6 years though.  You would be paying quite a bit of interest then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I financed a 2006 GTO for 72 months around the 4th of July in 2006, when GM was running it&#8217;s 72 hour sale.  0% for 72 months is a great deal.  Why wouldn&#8217;t you take advantage of no interest on a car for 6 years?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I would finance a car paying interest for 6 years though.  You would be paying quite a bit of interest then.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: denial</title>
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		<dc:creator>denial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you have the cash and can invest it in something and get a decent rate of return. Otherwise, depreciation is still your enemy.&lt;/i&gt;

Why? A car depreciates irrespective of whether it&#039;s financed for 36 or 72 months -- or even if its just bought in cash from day 1. So unless it&#039;s psychologically unpleasant to carry a long loan, if you can get one at a low rate (especially 0%...low enough for me) then I don&#039;t see why anyone would balk at making the loan term as loonnnnnng as possible.  If you find a buyer between purchase date/term complete then just pay off the loan in full -- it&#039;s amortized from day 1 with all taxes, fees and finance costs, so the car finance company would be only too happy to get their $ quicker.

Even though we&#039;re talking compounded interest and not simple interest here, I&#039;d still say if you&#039;re going to finance and can &#039;co-exist&#039; with the symbolic idea of a car loan for a few years, and if the rate is below 3%, go as long as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>If you have the cash and can invest it in something and get a decent rate of return. Otherwise, depreciation is still your enemy.</i></p>
<p>Why? A car depreciates irrespective of whether it&#8217;s financed for 36 or 72 months &#8212; or even if its just bought in cash from day 1. So unless it&#8217;s psychologically unpleasant to carry a long loan, if you can get one at a low rate (especially 0%&#8230;low enough for me) then I don&#8217;t see why anyone would balk at making the loan term as loonnnnnng as possible.  If you find a buyer between purchase date/term complete then just pay off the loan in full &#8212; it&#8217;s amortized from day 1 with all taxes, fees and finance costs, so the car finance company would be only too happy to get their $ quicker.</p>
<p>Even though we&#8217;re talking compounded interest and not simple interest here, I&#8217;d still say if you&#8217;re going to finance and can &#8216;co-exist&#8217; with the symbolic idea of a car loan for a few years, and if the rate is below 3%, go as long as possible.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
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		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;88 percent of all loans made by GMAC in the past month were for 60 month terms or higher&quot;

Caramba! Anybody here notice the connection between what&#039;s described in this article and the discussion of reasons for &quot;The Great Auto Industry Crisis of 2008: History&quot; (editorial section)?

Just after I got out of college I decided to buy a used Jaguar. (Talk about unreliability...) The bank told me they didn&#039;t feel comfortable with the loan I wanted. GMAC, however, was happy to facilitate my foolishness.

It took me a while to honorably get out of the predicament, but I never repeated that mistake. GMAC seems to be slow learner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;88 percent of all loans made by GMAC in the past month were for 60 month terms or higher&#8221;</p>
<p>Caramba! Anybody here notice the connection between what&#8217;s described in this article and the discussion of reasons for &#8220;The Great Auto Industry Crisis of 2008: History&#8221; (editorial section)?</p>
<p>Just after I got out of college I decided to buy a used Jaguar. (Talk about unreliability&#8230;) The bank told me they didn&#8217;t feel comfortable with the loan I wanted. GMAC, however, was happy to facilitate my foolishness.</p>
<p>It took me a while to honorably get out of the predicament, but I never repeated that mistake. GMAC seems to be slow learner.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;toxicroach : 
A sizable chunk of GMs customer base was image conscious, $12/hour, not to smart with money people, because GM &amp; Ford &amp; Chrysler were the only ones willing to lend them.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, there&#039;s a lot of that. I&#039;ve contracted at places where &lt;i&gt;Temps&lt;/i&gt; often have newer vehicles. And they&#039;ll balk at paying $160/month for health insurance. They&#039;ll just go naked and &lt;strike&gt;screw NY&#039;s taxpayers&lt;/strike&gt; go medicaid when hurt or sick... /rant</description>
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A sizable chunk of GMs customer base was image conscious, $12/hour, not to smart with money people, because GM &amp; Ford &amp; Chrysler were the only ones willing to lend them.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, there&#8217;s a lot of that. I&#8217;ve contracted at places where <i>Temps</i> often have newer vehicles. And they&#8217;ll balk at paying $160/month for health insurance. They&#8217;ll just go naked and <strike>screw NY&#8217;s taxpayers</strike> go medicaid when hurt or sick&#8230; /rant<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I do believe at one point they were offering 0% financing for 72 months . . . . . think about that for a second.&lt;/em&gt;

They still are, in Canada.  I can get an Astra (not a bad car, pity about the legroom), Aura or Vue for 72@0 now; I haven&#039;t checked their other offers, but I imagine that, aside from the Sky and Aura GL, they&#039;re all like this.  They have to be, after leasing became a no-go.

None of these are bad cars, really, but you&#039;d have to be unhinged to sign up for a six-year finance deal, especially with GM on the ropes.  I thought about it, but it&#039;s a really, really hard sell, even with family discount pricing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>I do believe at one point they were offering 0% financing for 72 months . . . . . think about that for a second.</em></p>
<p>They still are, in Canada.  I can get an Astra (not a bad car, pity about the legroom), Aura or Vue for 72@0 now; I haven&#8217;t checked their other offers, but I imagine that, aside from the Sky and Aura GL, they&#8217;re all like this.  They have to be, after leasing became a no-go.</p>
<p>None of these are bad cars, really, but you&#8217;d have to be unhinged to sign up for a six-year finance deal, especially with GM on the ropes.  I thought about it, but it&#8217;s a really, really hard sell, even with family discount pricing.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cretinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>cretinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe at one point they were offering 0% financing for 72 months . . . . . think about that for a second.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I do believe at one point they were offering 0% financing for 72 months . . . . . think about that for a second.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: threeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>threeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My one hope in all of this economic downturn is that people return to some semblance of fiscal conservatism.  72 month loans are the other side of insane.  This &quot;gotta have it now...and gotta have it bigger/faster/better&quot; BS is a good part of what lead us down the road we&#039;re in to begin with (that, and there were plenty of companies more than willing to allow us to go there).  In 1981, I can remember sitting on the couch, staring at $8000 in cash that my parents had just withdrawn from our bank in order to purchase our new Toyota Corolla.  For the record, we weren&#039;t ever wealthy...far from it, my father was a career soldier (not officer), so $8000 saved represented quite a commitment.  Years later, when my mother went to purchase her new 2003 Toyota Corolla (yeah, the trend you sense is correct), the dealer asked her how she planned to finance the $19,000 price tag.  The look on his face was priceless when she replied she would pay in cash.  I&#039;ve struggled to live that same way, but I&#039;m coming around.  Working on selling the monthly payment to outright buy a car to get back and forth to work in.  Loose financing and outrageous loan terms have sucked the financial lifeblood right out of our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My one hope in all of this economic downturn is that people return to some semblance of fiscal conservatism.  72 month loans are the other side of insane.  This &#8220;gotta have it now&#8230;and gotta have it bigger/faster/better&#8221; BS is a good part of what lead us down the road we&#8217;re in to begin with (that, and there were plenty of companies more than willing to allow us to go there).  In 1981, I can remember sitting on the couch, staring at $8000 in cash that my parents had just withdrawn from our bank in order to purchase our new Toyota Corolla.  For the record, we weren&#8217;t ever wealthy&#8230;far from it, my father was a career soldier (not officer), so $8000 saved represented quite a commitment.  Years later, when my mother went to purchase her new 2003 Toyota Corolla (yeah, the trend you sense is correct), the dealer asked her how she planned to finance the $19,000 price tag.  The look on his face was priceless when she replied she would pay in cash.  I&#8217;ve struggled to live that same way, but I&#8217;m coming around.  Working on selling the monthly payment to outright buy a car to get back and forth to work in.  Loose financing and outrageous loan terms have sucked the financial lifeblood right out of our country.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Detroit-Iron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Detroit-Iron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first time I bought a new vehicle (a craptastic S-10 that made me a committed non-GM buyer) I overheard the salesguy in the next cube trying to get a woman into a 72-mont LEASE, on a METRO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The first time I bought a new vehicle (a craptastic S-10 that made me a committed non-GM buyer) I overheard the salesguy in the next cube trying to get a woman into a 72-mont LEASE, on a METRO!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;&quot;In 2005 GM was considered by many analysts to be a financial company that makes cars on the side... So…what the heck are they now?&quot;

They are now a welfare queen, who makes money neither by selling cars nor financial products.  They make money by accepting free welfare from taxpayers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&gt;&gt;&#8221;In 2005 GM was considered by many analysts to be a financial company that makes cars on the side&#8230; So…what the heck are they now?&#8221;</p>
<p>They are now a welfare queen, who makes money neither by selling cars nor financial products.  They make money by accepting free welfare from taxpayers.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: psarhjinian</title>
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		<dc:creator>psarhjinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Not if the loan is at a subsidized rate of 0-2.99 percent. Then it can be quite smart.&lt;/em&gt;

If you have the cash and can invest it in something and get a decent rate of return.  Otherwise, depreciation is still your enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Not if the loan is at a subsidized rate of 0-2.99 percent. Then it can be quite smart.</em></p>
<p>If you have the cash and can invest it in something and get a decent rate of return.  Otherwise, depreciation is still your enemy.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: konaforever</title>
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		<dc:creator>konaforever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;em&gt;A 72 month note on a car is nutty.
I must have a very strange demographic of friends and acquaintances. No one I know has (or will admit to having) such a loan.&lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Not if the loan is at a subsidized rate of 0-2.99 percent. Then it can be quite smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;<em>A 72 month note on a car is nutty.<br />
I must have a very strange demographic of friends and acquaintances. No one I know has (or will admit to having) such a loan.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Not if the loan is at a subsidized rate of 0-2.99 percent. Then it can be quite smart.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: toxicroach</title>
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		<dc:creator>toxicroach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal limit is 48 months, but I don&#039;t like car payments over $300.

The 72 month notes were GMs way of cramming people into new cars that were unfit to own a new car but wanted one anyways.  As simple as that.  Before this all hit the fan, I believe they were up to occasionally doing 80+ month notes.  I&#039;d imagine most v6 mustang sales were 60+ month loans.

A sizable chunk of GMs customer base was image conscious, $12/hour, not to smart with money people, because GM &amp; Ford &amp; Chrysler were the only ones willing to lend them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My personal limit is 48 months, but I don&#8217;t like car payments over $300.</p>
<p>The 72 month notes were GMs way of cramming people into new cars that were unfit to own a new car but wanted one anyways.  As simple as that.  Before this all hit the fan, I believe they were up to occasionally doing 80+ month notes.  I&#8217;d imagine most v6 mustang sales were 60+ month loans.</p>
<p>A sizable chunk of GMs customer base was image conscious, $12/hour, not to smart with money people, because GM &amp; Ford &amp; Chrysler were the only ones willing to lend them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: BlindOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlindOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you ever get more than a 3 year note? If you can&#039;t afford to pay it off in 3 then buy something cheaper.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Danda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Danda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2005 GM was considered by many analysts to be a financial company that makes cars on the side. This is because the financial arm was their primary source of profits. So...what the heck are they now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->In 2005 GM was considered by many analysts to be a financial company that makes cars on the side. This is because the financial arm was their primary source of profits. So&#8230;what the heck are they now?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: ihatetrees</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatetrees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A 72 month note on a car is nutty. 
I must have a very strange demographic of friends and acquaintances. No one I know has (or will admit to having) such a loan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A 72 month note on a car is nutty.<br />
I must have a very strange demographic of friends and acquaintances. No one I know has (or will admit to having) such a loan.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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