Comments on: Warren Brown to Detroit’s Critics: It’s No Biggie http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/ The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:02:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: David Holzman http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/comment-page-1/#comment-491271 David Holzman Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:37:58 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/#comment-491271 I don't need to read his latest to wonder why the Wash Post (which has been doing buyouts of reporters lately) hasn't gotten rid of this hack. He is intellectually dishonest or in deep, deep denial. I must stop writing before I say something that will compel RF to remove this post. I don’t need to read his latest to wonder why the Wash Post (which has been doing buyouts of reporters lately) hasn’t gotten rid of this hack. He is intellectually dishonest or in deep, deep denial. I must stop writing before I say something that will compel RF to remove this post.

]]> By: John Horner http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/comment-page-1/#comment-490882 John Horner Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:41:07 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/#comment-490882 "The GM-Hummer relationship was never meant to be permanent." Say what? Did GM tell the dealers who anted up millions to build fancy facilities that "fact"? What a bunch of BS. If it was supposed to be short-term, they would have sold Hummers at GMC dealers. GM tried to use the Hummer brand to out-Jeep Jeep. It wasn't a temporary arrangement at all. “The GM-Hummer relationship was never meant to be permanent.”

Say what? Did GM tell the dealers who anted up millions to build fancy facilities that “fact”? What a bunch of BS. If it was supposed to be short-term, they would have sold Hummers at GMC dealers. GM tried to use the Hummer brand to out-Jeep Jeep. It wasn’t a temporary arrangement at all.

]]> By: Geotpf http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/comment-page-1/#comment-490782 Geotpf Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:21:41 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/#comment-490782 The recent shift from large SUVs and pickups to small cars has little to do with enviromentalism and a lot to do with $5 a gallon gas. If gas goes back to 93 cents a gallon, the Detroit 3 will be saved. But it's much more likely to go to $9.30 a gallon than 93 cents, which means they are screwed. The recent shift from large SUVs and pickups to small cars has little to do with enviromentalism and a lot to do with $5 a gallon gas. If gas goes back to 93 cents a gallon, the Detroit 3 will be saved. But it’s much more likely to go to $9.30 a gallon than 93 cents, which means they are screwed.

]]> By: Orian http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/comment-page-1/#comment-490471 Orian Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:01:04 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/#comment-490471 Aparrently he forgot how bad the domestics screwed up after the last fuel crisis. Aparrently he forgot how bad the domestics screwed up after the last fuel crisis.

]]> By: Lichtronamo http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/comment-page-1/#comment-490291 Lichtronamo Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:45:31 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/#comment-490291 Mr. Brown's analysis overlooks one major detail - that GM, Ford and Chrysler derive any and all profit from their NA auto ops from trucks, not cars. They simply don't have the $$$ to invest in shifting to products as good as Toyota and Honda across all segments and all of their brands. Detroit deserves its fate for not plowing the huge profits amassed during the 90s in SUVs and trucks to become fully competitive across all segments. For those who see hope in GM and Ford's Malibu and Fusion, look no further than the May sales figures for Camry and Accord. Those model's sales continue to dwarf Detroit highlighting and emphasizing the new world order of $4/gallon gas. Mr. Brown’s analysis overlooks one major detail – that GM, Ford and Chrysler derive any and all profit from their NA auto ops from trucks, not cars. They simply don’t have the $$$ to invest in shifting to products as good as Toyota and Honda across all segments and all of their brands. Detroit deserves its fate for not plowing the huge profits amassed during the 90s in SUVs and trucks to become fully competitive across all segments. For those who see hope in GM and Ford’s Malibu and Fusion, look no further than the May sales figures for Camry and Accord. Those model’s sales continue to dwarf Detroit highlighting and emphasizing the new world order of $4/gallon gas.

]]> By: improvement_needed http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/comment-page-1/#comment-490161 improvement_needed Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:50:57 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/#comment-490161 just read his article, it's just meant to calm some of the 'masses', smooth things over... - he didn't say much new... - some propaganda, but some truth... of course, the question remains: why don't ford, chrysler and gm CURRENTLY sell a range of non-truck / tall wagon automobiles that are competative with the imports??? euro-focus - yes please! suzuki-swift - yes please! and the list could go on... fuel efficiency doesn't need to equal cheap! just read his article, it’s just meant to calm some of the ‘masses’, smooth things over… – he didn’t say much new… – some propaganda, but some truth…

of course, the question remains: why don’t ford, chrysler and gm CURRENTLY sell a range of non-truck / tall wagon automobiles that are competative with the imports???
euro-focus – yes please!
suzuki-swift – yes please!
and the list could go on…
fuel efficiency doesn’t need to equal cheap!

]]> By: Rday http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/comment-page-1/#comment-490151 Rday Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:40:21 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/#comment-490151 I have read his articles before. His is just another PR guy for the domestics. He is incapable of clear thought and cannot hold Detroit responsible for any of their srewups. Why waste time even reading his propaganda? I have read his articles before. His is just another PR guy for the domestics. He is incapable of clear thought and cannot hold Detroit responsible for any of their srewups. Why waste time even reading his propaganda?

]]> By: folkdancer http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/comment-page-1/#comment-490102 folkdancer Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:12:11 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/#comment-490102 Why is it so difficult for pushers of vehicles we don't need and can't afford to understand that it was us tree huggers who were trying to save them? We were trying to shift our economy to be more efficient and less dependent on foreign oil. We wanted better constructed houses, businesses, and cars. We wanted people to have savings accounts. We tree huggers are, of course, not responsible for causing $4+ gas and we also are not going to benefit because buyers of vehicles they don't need and can't afford didn't listen to us. We are all going to suffer because too many people follow silly trends and believe ads telling them they can buy anything even with bad credit. Economics is the simplest subject to understand and it is amazing that Warren Brown works so hard to avoid it. If pushers of vehicles we don't need and can't afford want to know who to blame for $4+ gas all they have to do is look into a mirror. Why is it so difficult for pushers of vehicles we don’t need and can’t afford to understand that it was us tree huggers who were trying to save them?

We were trying to shift our economy to be more efficient and less dependent on foreign oil. We wanted better constructed houses, businesses, and cars. We wanted people to have savings accounts.

We tree huggers are, of course, not responsible for causing $4+ gas and we also are not going to benefit because buyers of vehicles they don’t need and can’t afford didn’t listen to us.

We are all going to suffer because too many people follow silly trends and believe ads telling them they can buy anything even with bad credit.

Economics is the simplest subject to understand and it is amazing that Warren Brown works so hard to avoid it.

If pushers of vehicles we don’t need and can’t afford want to know who to blame for $4+ gas all they have to do is look into a mirror.

]]> By: oboylepr http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/comment-page-1/#comment-490092 oboylepr Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:05:44 +0000 http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/warren-brown-to-detroits-critics-its-no-biggie/#comment-490092 I hope someone reminds Mr Brown of his 'factual analysis' when GM and Cerberus lawyers are cluttering up bankruptcy courtrooms. I don't know if I would call Toyondanissan advantage 'temporary' seeing as they have maintained it since the 1970's. Tell me what GM have in the works to compete with the Yaris that will be in dealers before 2010? I hope someone reminds Mr Brown of his ‘factual analysis’ when GM and Cerberus lawyers are cluttering up bankruptcy courtrooms. I don’t know if I would call Toyondanissan advantage ‘temporary’ seeing as they have maintained it since the 1970’s. Tell me what GM have in the works to compete with the Yaris that will be in dealers before 2010?

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