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		<title>By: 5150</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-57619</link>
		<dc:creator>5150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve officially owned our &#039;07 Rabbit for THREE months. It has been in the dealership&#039;s shop for almost 24 cumulative days for an ongoing and unsolved electrical issue (a draw SOMEWHERE). We are on our fourth breakdown with this car. The previous stay in the shop was nearly three weeks long, with the service department claiming they resolved the problem. We&#039;ll be having it towed or jump-started once again to get it over there.

Note that we&#039;ve gone back and forth with the dealership and VW of America over the amount of lost time and unsatisfactory service. No one cares. The apologize plenty but do nothing to compensate you for the headaches other than offer a free oil change. I would much rather have a NEW car that doesn&#039;t break down every 2-3 weeks.

We anticipate the dealership will exceed 30 days worth of shop repairs, which at that time we will invoke our rights to the Lemon Law in California. Because of the poor quality standards built into this car by VW and its uncaring company standards, we will seek a full refund and shop for a different make and model altogether.

The electrical problem in question is NOT a fluke. We stood in line at the service center while another new Rabbit owner complained of the exact same issue we are having. The brake caliper issue was one that warily kept us from buying an &#039;06. This is what I get for believing the hype and committing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->We&#8217;ve officially owned our &#8216;07 Rabbit for THREE months. It has been in the dealership&#8217;s shop for almost 24 cumulative days for an ongoing and unsolved electrical issue (a draw SOMEWHERE). We are on our fourth breakdown with this car. The previous stay in the shop was nearly three weeks long, with the service department claiming they resolved the problem. We&#8217;ll be having it towed or jump-started once again to get it over there.</p>
<p>Note that we&#8217;ve gone back and forth with the dealership and VW of America over the amount of lost time and unsatisfactory service. No one cares. The apologize plenty but do nothing to compensate you for the headaches other than offer a free oil change. I would much rather have a NEW car that doesn&#8217;t break down every 2-3 weeks.</p>
<p>We anticipate the dealership will exceed 30 days worth of shop repairs, which at that time we will invoke our rights to the Lemon Law in California. Because of the poor quality standards built into this car by VW and its uncaring company standards, we will seek a full refund and shop for a different make and model altogether.</p>
<p>The electrical problem in question is NOT a fluke. We stood in line at the service center while another new Rabbit owner complained of the exact same issue we are having. The brake caliper issue was one that warily kept us from buying an &#8216;06. This is what I get for believing the hype and committing.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: zerofoo</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-55631</link>
		<dc:creator>zerofoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully VW can lure in a new young set of lifetime buyers with this car.  They sure lost me as a lifetime customer with my 2000 VW 1.8t Golf.

I actually went to test drive a Passat 3.6 4 Motion recently.  I figured it was time to get rid of my Golf that I bought in college now that I have a kid and more money.

I asked the salesperson if VW fixed their reliability/supplier problems.  When he asked &quot;what reliability problems?&quot; I just shook my head and walked out.

Does VW still not get that trips to the dealer every 3 months for a check engine light during the first 2 years of a car&#039;s life is not normal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hopefully VW can lure in a new young set of lifetime buyers with this car.  They sure lost me as a lifetime customer with my 2000 VW 1.8t Golf.</p>
<p>I actually went to test drive a Passat 3.6 4 Motion recently.  I figured it was time to get rid of my Golf that I bought in college now that I have a kid and more money.</p>
<p>I asked the salesperson if VW fixed their reliability/supplier problems.  When he asked &#8220;what reliability problems?&#8221; I just shook my head and walked out.</p>
<p>Does VW still not get that trips to the dealer every 3 months for a check engine light during the first 2 years of a car&#8217;s life is not normal?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: LamborghiniZ</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-42309</link>
		<dc:creator>LamborghiniZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But the jingle saved on regular gas buys a six pack of Natty&quot;

Hahaha good one</description>
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		<title>By: correy</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-33843</link>
		<dc:creator>correy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 05:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Volkswabbit as they called is still a volkswagen.. Though some may find it uneasy when it comes to delivery of satisfaction for whatever the customer would like that would fit their personality.  Just like may friend, when he made a purchased a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dubautoparts.com/volkswagen-air-filter.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Volkswagen Air Filter&lt;/a&gt; in the market. It took him two weeks before he got the merchandise. Some has really difficulties for them to find a solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->That Volkswabbit as they called is still a volkswagen.. Though some may find it uneasy when it comes to delivery of satisfaction for whatever the customer would like that would fit their personality.  Just like may friend, when he made a purchased a <a href="http://www.dubautoparts.com/volkswagen-air-filter.html" rel="nofollow">Volkswagen Air Filter</a> in the market. It took him two weeks before he got the merchandise. Some has really difficulties for them to find a solution.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: intelbunny</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-31827</link>
		<dc:creator>intelbunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://rabbitownersclub.com&quot; title=&quot;VW Rabbit&quot; is a rabbit owner&#039;s site that has some cool secrets about the vw rabbit.</description>
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		<title>By: r129</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-16936</link>
		<dc:creator>r129</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that so much emphasis is placed on the fact that the Rabbit will be next to impossible to obtain.  Maybe the market where I live is completely different from the rest of the country, but there were at least 5 Rabbits available at the VW dealer I recently visited.  Compare that to the Honda dealer, where I was told by a salesman that people were waiting 4 to 6 months for a Fit, and not a single person got the color or model they wanted.  And while I was at the local autoplex, there was a very angry couple complaining that they were told they&#039;d have their Toyota Yaris in 2 weeks, but they&#039;d been waiting over 2 months.  Not that I&#039;d personally consider a Yaris... yuck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I find it interesting that so much emphasis is placed on the fact that the Rabbit will be next to impossible to obtain.  Maybe the market where I live is completely different from the rest of the country, but there were at least 5 Rabbits available at the VW dealer I recently visited.  Compare that to the Honda dealer, where I was told by a salesman that people were waiting 4 to 6 months for a Fit, and not a single person got the color or model they wanted.  And while I was at the local autoplex, there was a very angry couple complaining that they were told they&#8217;d have their Toyota Yaris in 2 weeks, but they&#8217;d been waiting over 2 months.  Not that I&#8217;d personally consider a Yaris&#8230; yuck!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: dgcamero</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-16377</link>
		<dc:creator>dgcamero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 05:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, the reason I would purchase this over any other small car is that I fit properly in it -- I&#039;m 6&#039;5&quot; tall.  I&#039;ve tried other small cars --- I outgrew my &#039;97 Civic when I turned 18, no big loss since it was a lemon anyway, and with Honda&#039;s good resale I didn&#039;t lose much money.  Next, I had a &#039;96 Jetta that I drove the holy hell out of for a few years, but it was tired with nearly 200K miles on it and I didn&#039;t want to spend money on an old (but very reliable) car to replace the timing belt and clutch (it was still on the original) that would need to come shortly.  Next was my beloved &#039;98 Intrepid ES.  It was fantastic, but was totalled by a dumptruck.  In the month following the accident, I had an &#039;06 Charger and an &#039;06 Accord as rentals --- Would have kept the Charger if it hadn&#039;t been a 2.7 liter (excellent car, but almost as underpowered as the Scion Xb I test drove) but was really considering purchasing an Accord, so I asked the rental company to get me an Accord.  I liked it but it didn&#039;t have enough front seat room for me.  It also rattled as bad as my &#039;96 Jetta with 200k miles (so much that I named the Accord &#039;Rattles&#039;), had darty (and therefore fatiguing) highway steering, and I felt the interior had too much hard plastic (way more than my Intrepid or the Charger, tho it &#039;looked&#039; nicer than Dodge plastic).  I tried Civics, Scions, Hyundais, Mazda 3 (best of that bunch by far) and they were all decent cars, but tall people unfortunately don&#039;t fit properly in the Asian cars.  The only one I did fit in was the Scion Xb, which was nice, but had the most gutless engine ever, had an unergonomic speedometer, rode harshly and *DOESN&#039;T HAVE SIDE AIRBAGS --- AT ALL!*  Needless to say, if I&#039;d wanted the car payment, I would have bought a Tdi DSG Jetta, but I didn&#039;t so I got something that ended up being free, a *blech weep* Sable from a member of the family.  At least I fit, and its reliable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sadly, the reason I would purchase this over any other small car is that I fit properly in it &#8212; I&#8217;m 6&#8242;5&#8243; tall.  I&#8217;ve tried other small cars &#8212; I outgrew my &#8216;97 Civic when I turned 18, no big loss since it was a lemon anyway, and with Honda&#8217;s good resale I didn&#8217;t lose much money.  Next, I had a &#8216;96 Jetta that I drove the holy hell out of for a few years, but it was tired with nearly 200K miles on it and I didn&#8217;t want to spend money on an old (but very reliable) car to replace the timing belt and clutch (it was still on the original) that would need to come shortly.  Next was my beloved &#8216;98 Intrepid ES.  It was fantastic, but was totalled by a dumptruck.  In the month following the accident, I had an &#8216;06 Charger and an &#8216;06 Accord as rentals &#8212; Would have kept the Charger if it hadn&#8217;t been a 2.7 liter (excellent car, but almost as underpowered as the Scion Xb I test drove) but was really considering purchasing an Accord, so I asked the rental company to get me an Accord.  I liked it but it didn&#8217;t have enough front seat room for me.  It also rattled as bad as my &#8216;96 Jetta with 200k miles (so much that I named the Accord &#8216;Rattles&#8217;), had darty (and therefore fatiguing) highway steering, and I felt the interior had too much hard plastic (way more than my Intrepid or the Charger, tho it &#8216;looked&#8217; nicer than Dodge plastic).  I tried Civics, Scions, Hyundais, Mazda 3 (best of that bunch by far) and they were all decent cars, but tall people unfortunately don&#8217;t fit properly in the Asian cars.  The only one I did fit in was the Scion Xb, which was nice, but had the most gutless engine ever, had an unergonomic speedometer, rode harshly and *DOESN&#8217;T HAVE SIDE AIRBAGS &#8212; AT ALL!*  Needless to say, if I&#8217;d wanted the car payment, I would have bought a Tdi DSG Jetta, but I didn&#8217;t so I got something that ended up being free, a *blech weep* Sable from a member of the family.  At least I fit, and its reliable.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Walter Pabst</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-14049</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Pabst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>camp6ell - Fair enough. Car companies build and advertise cars to sell them and make money. When they build, adverstise, and ship cars halfway around the world and don&#039;t make any money, clearly a mistake has been made. My article does reflect my perspective, but it is all true. Why is that unfair to point out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->camp6ell &#8211; Fair enough. Car companies build and advertise cars to sell them and make money. When they build, adverstise, and ship cars halfway around the world and don&#8217;t make any money, clearly a mistake has been made. My article does reflect my perspective, but it is all true. Why is that unfair to point out?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: camp6ell</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-13918</link>
		<dc:creator>camp6ell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the biggest shortcoming of the rabbit from your article is that it&#039;s not going to make you or your master any money...</description>
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		<title>By: Walter Pabst</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-13910</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Pabst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;is this â€œthe truthâ€ about cars if this article is written by a vw salesman? heck, why not get rabid rick to write your next gm deathewatch for some more â€œtruth?â€ &lt;/em&gt;

camp6ell, you are so perceptive. Does my story reek of cheap cologne or what? I was a huge fan and owner of VW&#039;s long before I sold &#039;em, so it&#039;s true I want the best for VW. Also, as a salesman, I am well aware of any shortcomings the cars have. Mr. Farago is kind to let me vent.

wsn, you are right, I completely forgot about the Impreza 2.5. I thought the WRX package was the only justification for buying a car so ugly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>is this â€œthe truthâ€ about cars if this article is written by a vw salesman? heck, why not get rabid rick to write your next gm deathewatch for some more â€œtruth?â€ </em></p>
<p>camp6ell, you are so perceptive. Does my story reek of cheap cologne or what? I was a huge fan and owner of VW&#8217;s long before I sold &#8216;em, so it&#8217;s true I want the best for VW. Also, as a salesman, I am well aware of any shortcomings the cars have. Mr. Farago is kind to let me vent.</p>
<p>wsn, you are right, I completely forgot about the Impreza 2.5. I thought the WRX package was the only justification for buying a car so ugly.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: wsn</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-2/#comment-13689</link>
		<dc:creator>wsn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Replying to &lt;i&gt;Whatâ€™s the difference??
That should have been my question to you. My point is, Volkswagenâ€™s A-platform has a reputation for excellent safety, particularly in side impacts. In my opinion, this adds greatly to the carâ€™s value.
Am I missing something? &lt;/i&gt;

Yes, you missed the existance of Subaru Impreza.

Compared to the Rabbit, the Impreza is &lt;b&gt;safer&lt;/b&gt;, more reliable, better handling and roomier.</description>
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That should have been my question to you. My point is, Volkswagenâ€™s A-platform has a reputation for excellent safety, particularly in side impacts. In my opinion, this adds greatly to the carâ€™s value.<br />
Am I missing something? </i></p>
<p>Yes, you missed the existance of Subaru Impreza.</p>
<p>Compared to the Rabbit, the Impreza is <b>safer</b>, more reliable, better handling and roomier.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13549</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would gladly publish a GM Deathwatch by Mr. Wagoner. Think of the publicity!&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Seriously, Mr. Pabst is writing under a pseudonym, so he is &quot;free&quot; to call it like he sees it.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;You could argue that a VW salesman is inherently incapable of objectivity, but then I would remind you that objectivity is impossible.   I believe the truth exists independently of our opinion of it.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;All those who seek the truth must be as open-minded, passionate, honest and informed as possible. I have no reason to believe that Mr. Pabst fails in any of these areas.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;In fact, Mr. P&#039;s status as a pistonhead VW salesman gives him a better perspective on their products than most. Oh, and rest assured I look an eye on all of the guys (and Lesley too). In many cases, I test drive cars that they&#039;ve reviewed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>I would gladly publish a GM Deathwatch by Mr. Wagoner. Think of the publicity!</p>
<p>Seriously, Mr. Pabst is writing under a pseudonym, so he is &quot;free&quot; to call it like he sees it.</p>
<p>You could argue that a VW salesman is inherently incapable of objectivity, but then I would remind you that objectivity is impossible.   I believe the truth exists independently of our opinion of it.</p>
<p>All those who seek the truth must be as open-minded, passionate, honest and informed as possible. I have no reason to believe that Mr. Pabst fails in any of these areas.</p>
<p>In fact, Mr. P&#39;s status as a pistonhead VW salesman gives him a better perspective on their products than most. Oh, and rest assured I look an eye on all of the guys (and Lesley too). In many cases, I test drive cars that they&#39;ve reviewed.</p>
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		<title>By: camp6ell</title>
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		<dc:creator>camp6ell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is this &quot;the truth&quot; about cars if this article is written by a vw salesman? heck, why not get rabid rick to write your next gm deathewatch for some more &quot;truth?&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: cretinx</title>
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		<dc:creator>cretinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A turbo diesel rabbit would be sweet

50 mpg or more, about a billion pounds of torque throughout the RPM band, fairly low price - you&#039;d sell it to a lot of trust fund kid&#039;s parents.</description>
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		<title>By: larryj</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13280</link>
		<dc:creator>larryj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gfen-

edmunds: luggage capacity on the rabbit 15 cubes.  on the golf4 it&#039;s 18 I believe.  More passenger room in the rabbit perhaps but not where I need it behind the seats. 

increase in power basically offset by weight, so not excited about 150 horses there.  

I love my golf despite the glove compartment door cracking and dangling, the recalls on the hazard signal, emissions thingy and BOTH front windows falling off the tracks.  Seriously.  I shouldn&#039;t want another VW but I do.</description>
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<p>edmunds: luggage capacity on the rabbit 15 cubes.  on the golf4 it&#8217;s 18 I believe.  More passenger room in the rabbit perhaps but not where I need it behind the seats. </p>
<p>increase in power basically offset by weight, so not excited about 150 horses there.  </p>
<p>I love my golf despite the glove compartment door cracking and dangling, the recalls on the hazard signal, emissions thingy and BOTH front windows falling off the tracks.  Seriously.  I shouldn&#8217;t want another VW but I do.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: gfen</title>
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		<dc:creator>gfen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From everything I&#039;ve read and been told, the Mk5 has more capacity than the Mk4.

The Rabbit forgoes the chrome front for a regular ole painted grill, and that extra .5L and cylinder raises your HP from 105 to 150, torque goes up too, but I can&#039;t give you a number off the top of my head.

Is the increase in power worth the change in mileage? That&#039;s a subjective answer, but the lack of chrome and cargo space differences can&#039;t be denied.

Then don&#039;t mind me, I&#039;m evidently the VW apologist here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->From everything I&#8217;ve read and been told, the Mk5 has more capacity than the Mk4.</p>
<p>The Rabbit forgoes the chrome front for a regular ole painted grill, and that extra .5L and cylinder raises your HP from 105 to 150, torque goes up too, but I can&#8217;t give you a number off the top of my head.</p>
<p>Is the increase in power worth the change in mileage? That&#8217;s a subjective answer, but the lack of chrome and cargo space differences can&#8217;t be denied.</p>
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		<title>By: larryj</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13266</link>
		<dc:creator>larryj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s why I&#039;m not trading my 6 year old Golf4 for a new rabbit - the rabbit holds less stuff, is heavier/bigger, and gets worse mileage with an engine .5 liters larger than mine.  I&#039;m not trading for a Passat wagon either.  Too much $, middling mileage, ugly chrome.  Now, if the rumored new Jetta whateverwagon shows up with the TDI bluetech whatever deisel 40+mpg engine BEFORE honda/toyota/whomever makes a small wagon with a hybrid or a hamster that can get 40+ (I dimly remember a Civic wagon...I can imagine a hybrid matrix...but I&#039;d love a deisel DSG VW if you can hear me wolfsburg).  

Am I a demographic of one?  I live in an urban area with tight parking and lots of lights (so even small SUVs are nauseating to drive around stop-start), I have a kid and all the associated stuff to carry around, I want high mileage because it&#039;s entirely possible and probably a good idea you morons, and fun to drive is cool with me.  The rabbit could have satisfied all of these things.  But it doesn&#039;t, does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Here&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not trading my 6 year old Golf4 for a new rabbit &#8211; the rabbit holds less stuff, is heavier/bigger, and gets worse mileage with an engine .5 liters larger than mine.  I&#8217;m not trading for a Passat wagon either.  Too much $, middling mileage, ugly chrome.  Now, if the rumored new Jetta whateverwagon shows up with the TDI bluetech whatever deisel 40+mpg engine BEFORE honda/toyota/whomever makes a small wagon with a hybrid or a hamster that can get 40+ (I dimly remember a Civic wagon&#8230;I can imagine a hybrid matrix&#8230;but I&#8217;d love a deisel DSG VW if you can hear me wolfsburg).  </p>
<p>Am I a demographic of one?  I live in an urban area with tight parking and lots of lights (so even small SUVs are nauseating to drive around stop-start), I have a kid and all the associated stuff to carry around, I want high mileage because it&#8217;s entirely possible and probably a good idea you morons, and fun to drive is cool with me.  The rabbit could have satisfied all of these things.  But it doesn&#8217;t, does it?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: pendragon6</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13231</link>
		<dc:creator>pendragon6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I test drove one at a dealer in Orange County.  The interior was definitely a step down from the standard Golf/Jetta.  And they added $1000 &quot;dealer mark up.&quot;

I bought an Infiniti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I test drove one at a dealer in Orange County.  The interior was definitely a step down from the standard Golf/Jetta.  And they added $1000 &#8220;dealer mark up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Pabst</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13223</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Pabst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the difference??
That should have been my question to you. My point is, Volkswagen&#039;s A-platform has a reputation for excellent safety, particularly in side impacts. In my opinion, this adds greatly to the car&#039;s value. 
Am I missing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What&#8217;s the difference??<br />
That should have been my question to you. My point is, Volkswagen&#8217;s A-platform has a reputation for excellent safety, particularly in side impacts. In my opinion, this adds greatly to the car&#8217;s value.<br />
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13161</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-boned by a Waste Management truck?

What&#039;s the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->T-boned by a Waste Management truck?</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Pabst</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13153</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Pabst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-boned by a Waste Management truck with the forks halfway up.

The Phaeton did not fail, Volkswagen did. Was it the departure of Piech that ended the policy of matching M-B car for car? 

Badge snobbery certainly hurts the Phaeton, and your average Rabbit/Jetta customer has no use for it. Likewise, those looking for a high end luxury sedan won&#039;t set foot on a Rabbit/Jetta lot. Audi and Bentley dealers are much better equipped to handle these customers.

There are still brand new &#039;05 Phaetons for sale in the US. Most people have no idea what the car is or who makes it.

Like many intriguing ideas from Volkswagen, nobody follows up. What happened to the full line of &quot;R&quot; series cars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->T-boned by a Waste Management truck with the forks halfway up.</p>
<p>The Phaeton did not fail, Volkswagen did. Was it the departure of Piech that ended the policy of matching M-B car for car? </p>
<p>Badge snobbery certainly hurts the Phaeton, and your average Rabbit/Jetta customer has no use for it. Likewise, those looking for a high end luxury sedan won&#8217;t set foot on a Rabbit/Jetta lot. Audi and Bentley dealers are much better equipped to handle these customers.</p>
<p>There are still brand new &#8216;05 Phaetons for sale in the US. Most people have no idea what the car is or who makes it.</p>
<p>Like many intriguing ideas from Volkswagen, nobody follows up. What happened to the full line of &#8220;R&#8221; series cars?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13151</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess... I just would like to have seen what would have been if Piech had stayed at the helm for another five-years. 

And again -- did the Phaeton fail? Or did Volkswagen?

Anyhow, Rabbit -- yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I guess&#8230; I just would like to have seen what would have been if Piech had stayed at the helm for another five-years. </p>
<p>And again &#8212; did the Phaeton fail? Or did Volkswagen?</p>
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		<title>By: pfingst</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13149</link>
		<dc:creator>pfingst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s tough to call the Phaeton good for VW, since as good as it is, it really doesn&#039;t fit with VW&#039;s &quot;team concept.&quot; (Actually, you could make the argument that the high-$30K Passat doesn&#039;t, either). Indeed, the glorious feat of engineering that is the Phaeton seems to be widely regarded as a very expensive failure. I&#039;m with you, I loved it, practical or not, and it did make non-traditional VW buyers take note. If the object of the Phaeton was to garner attention, mission accomplished. I just think they were aiming for rather more. A $45,000 and a $65,000 Phaeton may have worked. A $60,000 and a $90,000 Phaeton (before options) is asking a lot. I still wanted one, though!

The New Beetle was good for VW for exactly the reason you mentioned - whether you liked it or hated it, it made you pay attention to VW again. I never even liked the old Beetles that much, but the new one was a VW that was actually decent looking, unlike everything else they had at that time. And it has been a smashing success for VW, both in brand-awareness and sales.

A parallel to the Phaeton can be seen in the Bangle-ized BMWs. They made people that wouldn&#039;t ordinarily look at BMWs (like me) sit up and pay attention. Unfortunately for me, a great many people don&#039;t like them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s tough to call the Phaeton good for VW, since as good as it is, it really doesn&#8217;t fit with VW&#8217;s &#8220;team concept.&#8221; (Actually, you could make the argument that the high-$30K Passat doesn&#8217;t, either). Indeed, the glorious feat of engineering that is the Phaeton seems to be widely regarded as a very expensive failure. I&#8217;m with you, I loved it, practical or not, and it did make non-traditional VW buyers take note. If the object of the Phaeton was to garner attention, mission accomplished. I just think they were aiming for rather more. A $45,000 and a $65,000 Phaeton may have worked. A $60,000 and a $90,000 Phaeton (before options) is asking a lot. I still wanted one, though!</p>
<p>The New Beetle was good for VW for exactly the reason you mentioned &#8211; whether you liked it or hated it, it made you pay attention to VW again. I never even liked the old Beetles that much, but the new one was a VW that was actually decent looking, unlike everything else they had at that time. And it has been a smashing success for VW, both in brand-awareness and sales.</p>
<p>A parallel to the Phaeton can be seen in the Bangle-ized BMWs. They made people that wouldn&#8217;t ordinarily look at BMWs (like me) sit up and pay attention. Unfortunately for me, a great many people don&#8217;t like them.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonny Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13147</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-boned by what?</description>
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		<title>By: Walter Pabst</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/vw-rabbit/comment-page-1/#comment-13145</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Pabst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we comparing the Rabbit to the xB? Nothing against the box, it&#039;s just not in the same league. Which one would you rather be T-boned in?</description>
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