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	<title>Comments on: USA Today: The Big 2.8 &#8220;Cutting&#8221; U.S. Dealers</title>
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		<title>By: taxman100</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/usa-today-the-big-28-cutting-us-dealers/comment-page-1/#comment-96559</link>
		<dc:creator>taxman100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 02:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Mercury dealership opened as a Nash dealership back in the 30&#039;s.  He became a Mercury dealer in 1954, and Lincoln in 1958 - over 50 years with Ford.   It is guys like this that Ford is killing with their clueless product development. 

It is an old-school dealership - the owner doesn&#039;t sell, but if you want to talk to him, he is on-site.  I absolutely hate those overwrought dealerships with the trendy showrooms, etc. - Lexus dealerships remind me of a shopping mall.   

Keep the overhead low, and provide good service - it works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->My Mercury dealership opened as a Nash dealership back in the 30&#8217;s.  He became a Mercury dealer in 1954, and Lincoln in 1958 &#8211; over 50 years with Ford.   It is guys like this that Ford is killing with their clueless product development. </p>
<p>It is an old-school dealership &#8211; the owner doesn&#8217;t sell, but if you want to talk to him, he is on-site.  I absolutely hate those overwrought dealerships with the trendy showrooms, etc. &#8211; Lexus dealerships remind me of a shopping mall.   </p>
<p>Keep the overhead low, and provide good service &#8211; it works for me.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jthorner</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/usa-today-the-big-28-cutting-us-dealers/comment-page-1/#comment-96551</link>
		<dc:creator>jthorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 01:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the 2.8 are very actively pruning the dealer network.  It is shrinking though as 2.8 sales continue their long, long slide.  I know that in the Silicon Valley area at least one long time Lincoln Mercury dealer and another long time Ford dealer both simply called it quits.   Both of them had been around for many, many decades and were sitting on land which was worth plenty while running businesses that were worth little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I don&#8217;t think the 2.8 are very actively pruning the dealer network.  It is shrinking though as 2.8 sales continue their long, long slide.  I know that in the Silicon Valley area at least one long time Lincoln Mercury dealer and another long time Ford dealer both simply called it quits.   Both of them had been around for many, many decades and were sitting on land which was worth plenty while running businesses that were worth little.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Slow_Joe_Crow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slow_Joe_Crow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Subaru I think it depends on the area. Where I am on the west side of Portland (Oregon) the three nearest Subaru dealers have standalone buildings but are owned by multi-franchise dealers. Interestingly two are large Chevy dealers and all three have a Buick/Pontiac/GMC franchise, although some are in different cities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->With Subaru I think it depends on the area. Where I am on the west side of Portland (Oregon) the three nearest Subaru dealers have standalone buildings but are owned by multi-franchise dealers. Interestingly two are large Chevy dealers and all three have a Buick/Pontiac/GMC franchise, although some are in different cities.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cynder</title>
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		<dc:creator>cynder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 19:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Continental Auto Group in Anchorage, Alaska has a stand alone dealership for Subaru.  I&#039;m guessing that they sell quite a few because they&#039;ve now doubled the lot size.  They also have excellent service and support--as a Subaru owner, I like that a lot!

CAG does have dealerships for Nissan, Honda, Mazda, Volvo and Suzuki.  Only the latter three sharing showrooms.

Subaru and Nissan have a long history together from when Nissan was a stakeholder.  Their partnership only ended when Nissan fell on hard times in the 90s.  Subaru works with Nissan on various part sharing initiatives.  That may not last with the new Toyota partnership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Continental Auto Group in Anchorage, Alaska has a stand alone dealership for Subaru.  I&#8217;m guessing that they sell quite a few because they&#8217;ve now doubled the lot size.  They also have excellent service and support&#8211;as a Subaru owner, I like that a lot!</p>
<p>CAG does have dealerships for Nissan, Honda, Mazda, Volvo and Suzuki.  Only the latter three sharing showrooms.</p>
<p>Subaru and Nissan have a long history together from when Nissan was a stakeholder.  Their partnership only ended when Nissan fell on hard times in the 90s.  Subaru works with Nissan on various part sharing initiatives.  That may not last with the new Toyota partnership.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: bleach</title>
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		<dc:creator>bleach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven,

All of the Subaru dealerships near me share facilities with other brands. Actually they all share with Nissan surprisingly enough.  How are the demographics between Subaru and Nissan?

Subaru/Ford/Nissan
Subaru/Chrysler/Nissan
Subaru/Isuzu/Nissan</description>
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<p>All of the Subaru dealerships near me share facilities with other brands. Actually they all share with Nissan surprisingly enough.  How are the demographics between Subaru and Nissan?</p>
<p>Subaru/Ford/Nissan<br />
Subaru/Chrysler/Nissan<br />
Subaru/Isuzu/Nissan<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: dwford</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of dealers, believe it or not, still see the latest sales downturn as a temporary situation. They are spending their savings keeping the lights on. Others are turning to used cars to keep the money rolling in.

Ford seems to be following the &quot;starve the dealers&quot; strategy. We have the cars, but Ford is being very stingy on the rebates and cheap financing. Ford really seems to putting it on the dealers to sell the product and seems content to sell only to those customers who want to buy Fords. I can&#039;t imagine 3 or 4 nearby Ford dealers lasting through 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A lot of dealers, believe it or not, still see the latest sales downturn as a temporary situation. They are spending their savings keeping the lights on. Others are turning to used cars to keep the money rolling in.</p>
<p>Ford seems to be following the &#8220;starve the dealers&#8221; strategy. We have the cars, but Ford is being very stingy on the rebates and cheap financing. Ford really seems to putting it on the dealers to sell the product and seems content to sell only to those customers who want to buy Fords. I can&#8217;t imagine 3 or 4 nearby Ford dealers lasting through 2008.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Steven Lang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a friend of mine who was awarded a Ford dealership near Dallas. A great guy. He spent much of his time in Ford&#039;s dealer training program closing out dealerships. I know he closed two of them. It may have been three.

Team is a very interesting organization. There is a remarkable level of divergency in quality within their dealer network. Some are world class operations. Others have owners who only survived because they were the only game in town for a long time.

It always interested me how GM hasn&#039;t been too prejudiced against offering the larger dealer networks multiple franchises, while outfits like Toyota or Honda typically try very hard to avoid them. I believe the later strategy is the better one. But Toyota and Honda had the luxury of building up while the domestics had to cut their  networks down to reflect the market shift.   

One other thing... I actually thought about becoming a Subaru dealer with another fellow who was bought out by Team many, many years back. If Toyota really did want to pursue Subaru as a new division, I could see the potentiality of selling Subarus and Scions together in the same dealership. There&#039;s a lot of demographic crossover between the two and virtually no cannibalization. I&#039;m not sure if stand alone Subaru dealerships will remain viable in my neck of the woods over the next few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I have a friend of mine who was awarded a Ford dealership near Dallas. A great guy. He spent much of his time in Ford&#8217;s dealer training program closing out dealerships. I know he closed two of them. It may have been three.</p>
<p>Team is a very interesting organization. There is a remarkable level of divergency in quality within their dealer network. Some are world class operations. Others have owners who only survived because they were the only game in town for a long time.</p>
<p>It always interested me how GM hasn&#8217;t been too prejudiced against offering the larger dealer networks multiple franchises, while outfits like Toyota or Honda typically try very hard to avoid them. I believe the later strategy is the better one. But Toyota and Honda had the luxury of building up while the domestics had to cut their  networks down to reflect the market shift.   </p>
<p>One other thing&#8230; I actually thought about becoming a Subaru dealer with another fellow who was bought out by Team many, many years back. If Toyota really did want to pursue Subaru as a new division, I could see the potentiality of selling Subarus and Scions together in the same dealership. There&#8217;s a lot of demographic crossover between the two and virtually no cannibalization. I&#8217;m not sure if stand alone Subaru dealerships will remain viable in my neck of the woods over the next few years.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Weaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if some dealers are counting on a buyout.

EG, the Team Hyundai/Mazda/Pontiac/Buick/GMC dealership near me last february moved from an old location to shiny new digs in the shiny new Vallejor automall.

Well, Hyundai/Mazda got a shiny new showroom.   The GM cars, on the other hand, are on the lot next door with a shiny new porta-trailer serving as the office, looking quite like the cheap used car lot.  Groundbreaking is supposed to occur this summer, a year and a half AFTER the move was completed!

I suspect the Team corporate owners are hoping for a buyout of the franchise before they bother to build a new dealership.</description>
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<p>EG, the Team Hyundai/Mazda/Pontiac/Buick/GMC dealership near me last february moved from an old location to shiny new digs in the shiny new Vallejor automall.</p>
<p>Well, Hyundai/Mazda got a shiny new showroom.   The GM cars, on the other hand, are on the lot next door with a shiny new porta-trailer serving as the office, looking quite like the cheap used car lot.  Groundbreaking is supposed to occur this summer, a year and a half AFTER the move was completed!</p>
<p>I suspect the Team corporate owners are hoping for a buyout of the franchise before they bother to build a new dealership.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: jchennav</title>
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		<dc:creator>jchennav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then again, there are at least 5 other Ford dealerships next to the 405: Galpin Motors, Airport Marina Ford, South Bay Ford, Cal Worthington Ford, and Sunset Ford. I&#039;m sure there are others nearby.

Another dealership in Claremont, CA located next to the 10 freeway closed on December 31. There were still trucks on the lot when I drove by the dealership on New Year&#039;s Day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Then again, there are at least 5 other Ford dealerships next to the 405: Galpin Motors, Airport Marina Ford, South Bay Ford, Cal Worthington Ford, and Sunset Ford. I&#8217;m sure there are others nearby.</p>
<p>Another dealership in Claremont, CA located next to the 10 freeway closed on December 31. There were still trucks on the lot when I drove by the dealership on New Year&#8217;s Day.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: B.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big Ford dealer in Carson, CA packed it in recently -- I&#039;ve never seen such a big dealership shut down.  Normally I wouldn&#039;t care, but they have this giant lit sign towering over the 405 freeway that became a navigational landmark in my brain, and it&#039;s gone dark.</description>
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		<title>By: Gentle Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gentle Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all the USA dealers are lucky in that they can Sell makes other than the main ones, like a Ford dealer selling Toyota, this is not allowed here in Canada, not sure why either, but I do know that in the GTA around Toronto there are really too many dealers all together, Chrysler being the largest is my estimation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I think all the USA dealers are lucky in that they can Sell makes other than the main ones, like a Ford dealer selling Toyota, this is not allowed here in Canada, not sure why either, but I do know that in the GTA around Toronto there are really too many dealers all together, Chrysler being the largest is my estimation.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many dealerships represent both domestic and import manufacturers. Our Chevy dealer also carries Hyundai and our Ford dealer also carries Toyota. 

I wonder if these dealers can weather the loss of their domestic franchise by leaning on their import franchise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Many dealerships represent both domestic and import manufacturers. Our Chevy dealer also carries Hyundai and our Ford dealer also carries Toyota. </p>
<p>I wonder if these dealers can weather the loss of their domestic franchise by leaning on their import franchise.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sherman Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sherman Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The excess dealer problem will take care of itself with weaker dealers closing shop.  The excess brands is the real problem.</description>
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