<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: One Third of Fed&#8217;s Motown Mega-Buy Assembled Outside the USA</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/</link>
	<description>The Truth About Cars is dedicated to providing candid, unbiased automobile reviews and the latest in auto industry news.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:52:39 -0500</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1514815</link>
		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1514815</guid>
		<description>Isn&#039;t that what got Detroit in trouble in the first place? &quot;Good-enough&quot; manufacturing and business practices... 

NO THANKS.

I strive to do better than the &quot;usual&quot; and I expect the companies that I do business with to do the same - ESPECIALLY when they may get tens of thousands of dollars of my hard earned money. 

What I buy from them better be good, clever, durable and pleasing to the eye. PLENTY of products domestic and import meet my expectations. Only time will tell if Detroit&#039;s offerings will meet my expectations. Certainly not listening to anything they SAY - am watching what they are DOING. 

And before anyone gets their knickers in a twist - I don&#039;t generally buy new cars whether I can afford to or not so my choices only affect resale values of what&#039;s on the market in a tiny, tiny way...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Isn&#8217;t that what got Detroit in trouble in the first place? &#8220;Good-enough&#8221; manufacturing and business practices&#8230; </p>
<p>NO THANKS.</p>
<p>I strive to do better than the &#8220;usual&#8221; and I expect the companies that I do business with to do the same &#8211; ESPECIALLY when they may get tens of thousands of dollars of my hard earned money. </p>
<p>What I buy from them better be good, clever, durable and pleasing to the eye. PLENTY of products domestic and import meet my expectations. Only time will tell if Detroit&#8217;s offerings will meet my expectations. Certainly not listening to anything they SAY &#8211; am watching what they are DOING. </p>
<p>And before anyone gets their knickers in a twist &#8211; I don&#8217;t generally buy new cars whether I can afford to or not so my choices only affect resale values of what&#8217;s on the market in a tiny, tiny way&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: KixStart</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1514678</link>
		<dc:creator>KixStart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1514678</guid>
		<description>kermitstang86,

So, what you&#039;re saying is that the US can&#039;t do any better, so we should just buy what the US offers, rather than only buying the best and expecting the US to compete?

That seems defeatist to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->kermitstang86,</p>
<p>So, what you&#8217;re saying is that the US can&#8217;t do any better, so we should just buy what the US offers, rather than only buying the best and expecting the US to compete?</p>
<p>That seems defeatist to me.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kermitstang86</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1514485</link>
		<dc:creator>kermitstang86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1514485</guid>
		<description>GS650G-

I remember when there was a time that if you bought a Toyota, or Datsun, or Honda, that you were viewed as Un-American.  We are so impatient as consumers that we cannot deal with any inconvenience from a good made in our OWN country, whether it cost a buck or two more or has more quality issues, that we are willing to send profits from our purchases to Asia, Europe, or anywhere so that we can &quot;get our own best deal&quot;.

Our best Deal is being in the good ole US of A. And until we realize that we benefit ourselves from demanding that our products are built here, whether automotive or otherwise, we are selling our souls to foreign governments.

We listen to the bull that we, as Americans, are incapable of producing as efficiently as the Japanese, or Koreans, and that is why we buy from them.  Well, the old saying stands, &quot;If you think you&#039;re beaten, then you&#039;re beaten&quot;.  That saying is NOT the premise upon which our industrial revolution was built on, nor our country.

Enough soap-boxin.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->GS650G-</p>
<p>I remember when there was a time that if you bought a Toyota, or Datsun, or Honda, that you were viewed as Un-American.  We are so impatient as consumers that we cannot deal with any inconvenience from a good made in our OWN country, whether it cost a buck or two more or has more quality issues, that we are willing to send profits from our purchases to Asia, Europe, or anywhere so that we can &#8220;get our own best deal&#8221;.</p>
<p>Our best Deal is being in the good ole US of A. And until we realize that we benefit ourselves from demanding that our products are built here, whether automotive or otherwise, we are selling our souls to foreign governments.</p>
<p>We listen to the bull that we, as Americans, are incapable of producing as efficiently as the Japanese, or Koreans, and that is why we buy from them.  Well, the old saying stands, &#8220;If you think you&#8217;re beaten, then you&#8217;re beaten&#8221;.  That saying is NOT the premise upon which our industrial revolution was built on, nor our country.</p>
<p>Enough soap-boxin&#8230;..<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: GS650G</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1507919</link>
		<dc:creator>GS650G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1507919</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;EVERY foreign asembly vehicle was designed and engineered in the US of A. Fusion, Vue, HHR, Impala and Caravan were all designed by hundreds if not thousands of American engineers, technicians and designers.&lt;/strong&gt;

SO no outsourced overseas workers used in the design and engineering process? That would be a first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><strong>EVERY foreign asembly vehicle was designed and engineered in the US of A. Fusion, Vue, HHR, Impala and Caravan were all designed by hundreds if not thousands of American engineers, technicians and designers.</strong></p>
<p>SO no outsourced overseas workers used in the design and engineering process? That would be a first.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: NickR</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1502785</link>
		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1502785</guid>
		<description>I agree, those Fusion Hybrid numbers are impressive.

HHRs for pharma reps?  Get out.  I wondered what they were driving these days...I had my trusty Taurus (and trusty it was).

I am guessing the HHRs are panel versions too.  The local utlities and cable companies seem to be adopting them pretty readily.  (I have to admit, I kind of like the way they look.  Now I just need one with an LS2 and I am good to go.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I agree, those Fusion Hybrid numbers are impressive.</p>
<p>HHRs for pharma reps?  Get out.  I wondered what they were driving these days&#8230;I had my trusty Taurus (and trusty it was).</p>
<p>I am guessing the HHRs are panel versions too.  The local utlities and cable companies seem to be adopting them pretty readily.  (I have to admit, I kind of like the way they look.  Now I just need one with an LS2 and I am good to go.)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jacob</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1502090</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1502090</guid>
		<description>Best mpg number:

Ford Fusion Hybrid 41/36

not bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Best mpg number:</p>
<p>Ford Fusion Hybrid 41/36</p>
<p>not bad.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bertel Schmitt</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1501856</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertel Schmitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501856</guid>
		<description>Where&#039;s the beef?

Despite not being a U.S. citizen, and despite not living in the U.S.A. I&#039;m an American tax payer (a greencard has that undesirable side effect.)

As an American tax payer, I want my - well, your - government spend my tax dollars wisely and get the most bang for my buck. Limiting the choice to &quot;assembled in the USA only&quot; would be stupidity, and a waste of my money. It&#039;s enough (but kindof understandable) that they didn&#039;t buy from Made-in-the-USA transplants.

I see nothing incriminating in that list. One should assume that they favor Government Motors, but no, in unit count Ford leads GM  7924 to 6348. Buying Chrysler could be kindof wasteful, but which true blue American can pass up on a Jeep named Patriot?

And what is the importance of where the dang thing has been assembled? And how do you know where the innards come from anyway? If you insist on true Made in America, then you better move to Lancaster, PA, and ride a buggy. 

Who knows, the whip may come from China.

No cell phones. No computers.  Saving grace: No Fox TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Where&#8217;s the beef?</p>
<p>Despite not being a U.S. citizen, and despite not living in the U.S.A. I&#8217;m an American tax payer (a greencard has that undesirable side effect.)</p>
<p>As an American tax payer, I want my &#8211; well, your &#8211; government spend my tax dollars wisely and get the most bang for my buck. Limiting the choice to &#8220;assembled in the USA only&#8221; would be stupidity, and a waste of my money. It&#8217;s enough (but kindof understandable) that they didn&#8217;t buy from Made-in-the-USA transplants.</p>
<p>I see nothing incriminating in that list. One should assume that they favor Government Motors, but no, in unit count Ford leads GM  7924 to 6348. Buying Chrysler could be kindof wasteful, but which true blue American can pass up on a Jeep named Patriot?</p>
<p>And what is the importance of where the dang thing has been assembled? And how do you know where the innards come from anyway? If you insist on true Made in America, then you better move to Lancaster, PA, and ride a buggy. </p>
<p>Who knows, the whip may come from China.</p>
<p>No cell phones. No computers.  Saving grace: No Fox TV.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: wsn</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1501833</link>
		<dc:creator>wsn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501833</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Conslaw :
June 19th, 2009 at 11:09 pm

I don’t get it, people whine if Mexicans come to the United States to get jobs to feed their families. Yet if we provide jobs to Mexicans in Mexico, the same people whine. There’s no pleasing some people.&lt;/i&gt;

-----------------------------------------------

Maybe those people, unlike you, want the rule of law?

1) I am not against immigrants. I am against illegal immigrants. 

I am a legal immigrants myself and I know that accepting illegal immigrants is unfair to the legal immigrants who waited for approval for many years. It&#039;s always bad to encourage breaking a law.

2) A car maker can build anywhere they want. That&#039;s OK. If it&#039;s OK to buy a car made in Mexico, why don&#039;t we ought right buy a car made in Japan? I am not against one way or another. But please be consistent and don&#039;t pretend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>Conslaw :<br />
June 19th, 2009 at 11:09 pm</p>
<p>I don’t get it, people whine if Mexicans come to the United States to get jobs to feed their families. Yet if we provide jobs to Mexicans in Mexico, the same people whine. There’s no pleasing some people.</i></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Maybe those people, unlike you, want the rule of law?</p>
<p>1) I am not against immigrants. I am against illegal immigrants. </p>
<p>I am a legal immigrants myself and I know that accepting illegal immigrants is unfair to the legal immigrants who waited for approval for many years. It&#8217;s always bad to encourage breaking a law.</p>
<p>2) A car maker can build anywhere they want. That&#8217;s OK. If it&#8217;s OK to buy a car made in Mexico, why don&#8217;t we ought right buy a car made in Japan? I am not against one way or another. But please be consistent and don&#8217;t pretend.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: vww12</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1501799</link>
		<dc:creator>vww12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501799</guid>
		<description>I think it is touching that you have kept this at the top of the site for several days in a row.  So sweet.

I&#039;ll be extremely surprised if the mainstream media or NPR or whoever break their embargo on this story, as it does not fit &lt;i&gt;their narrative&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I think it is touching that you have kept this at the top of the site for several days in a row.  So sweet.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be extremely surprised if the mainstream media or NPR or whoever break their embargo on this story, as it does not fit <i>their narrative</i>.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: moedaman</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1501798</link>
		<dc:creator>moedaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501798</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t mind the Canadian made vehicles in the mix. After all Canada did contribute to the bailouts. But Mexico didn&#039;t contribute a damn thing. 

As for helping out Mexicans in Mexico to prevent them from coming here illegally, that&#039;s a farce. Those plants have been there for years, and the problem has been growing. The true problems with Mexico&#039;s economy won&#039;t be solved with NAFTA. It will be solved when Mexico decides to give it&#039;s poor people opportunities and freedoms that both Canadians and Americans enjoy. As long as the underclass is treated like chattel, those Mexicans will be hopping over the border for economic opportunities. And those problems in Mexico will continue until we in the USA prevent Mexicans from making economic progress by coming here illegally. The huge amount of Mexicans illegally in the USA, takes the pressure off of the Mexican government from making the reforms that are needed over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I don&#8217;t mind the Canadian made vehicles in the mix. After all Canada did contribute to the bailouts. But Mexico didn&#8217;t contribute a damn thing. </p>
<p>As for helping out Mexicans in Mexico to prevent them from coming here illegally, that&#8217;s a farce. Those plants have been there for years, and the problem has been growing. The true problems with Mexico&#8217;s economy won&#8217;t be solved with NAFTA. It will be solved when Mexico decides to give it&#8217;s poor people opportunities and freedoms that both Canadians and Americans enjoy. As long as the underclass is treated like chattel, those Mexicans will be hopping over the border for economic opportunities. And those problems in Mexico will continue until we in the USA prevent Mexicans from making economic progress by coming here illegally. The huge amount of Mexicans illegally in the USA, takes the pressure off of the Mexican government from making the reforms that are needed over there.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Patrickj</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1501692</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrickj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501692</guid>
		<description>A pretty typical Government fleet.  V8s only in full-size trucks and police cruisers.  

Lots of minivans, mid-size sedans, and compact pickups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->A pretty typical Government fleet.  V8s only in full-size trucks and police cruisers.  </p>
<p>Lots of minivans, mid-size sedans, and compact pickups.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1501686</link>
		<dc:creator>golden2husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501686</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Also keep in mind that parts country of origin isn’t much better. Many of the electronics in GM and Ford cars is Hecho en Mexico by Delphi. Delphi’s biggest electronics plants are in Juarez and Reynosa Mexico (with a large plant in Singapore as well). So all those radios, airbag control modules, engine control units, etc. are non-US in origin.&lt;/em&gt;...

Sadly, thats been true for years.  Even my oldest car - 1992 - has foreign made ABS, airbag, and ECU. At least the ABS stuff is Bosch.  And that depressing fact is not limited to the auto industry.  A lot of industrial equipment proudly bears the Made in USA label, yet often the electronic components inside are imported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Also keep in mind that parts country of origin isn’t much better. Many of the electronics in GM and Ford cars is Hecho en Mexico by Delphi. Delphi’s biggest electronics plants are in Juarez and Reynosa Mexico (with a large plant in Singapore as well). So all those radios, airbag control modules, engine control units, etc. are non-US in origin.</em>&#8230;</p>
<p>Sadly, thats been true for years.  Even my oldest car &#8211; 1992 &#8211; has foreign made ABS, airbag, and ECU. At least the ABS stuff is Bosch.  And that depressing fact is not limited to the auto industry.  A lot of industrial equipment proudly bears the Made in USA label, yet often the electronic components inside are imported.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Track Announcer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1501683</link>
		<dc:creator>Track Announcer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501683</guid>
		<description>Thank you for buying Canadian.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thank you for buying Canadian.  :)<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: SherbornSean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1501666</link>
		<dc:creator>SherbornSean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501666</guid>
		<description>17 thousand &quot;American&quot; vehicles and not a single one with a Hemi.  Obviously not a list developed with red states in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->17 thousand &#8220;American&#8221; vehicles and not a single one with a Hemi.  Obviously not a list developed with red states in mind.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: charleywhiskey</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-2/#comment-1501602</link>
		<dc:creator>charleywhiskey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501602</guid>
		<description>Weighted average mpg for the fleet is 22/29. Not bad, but far from the latest CAFE fantasies of congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Weighted average mpg for the fleet is 22/29. Not bad, but far from the latest CAFE fantasies of congress.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: BDB</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501586</link>
		<dc:creator>BDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501586</guid>
		<description>Sorry, not outraged. This is all NAFTA--same trading block. And the Canucks helped bail out GM and Chrysler, too. Ford builds the Fusion/Milan/MKZ in Mexico mostly to avoid tariffs in Latin American countries that would be levied on vehicles built in the United States, but not those build in Mexico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sorry, not outraged. This is all NAFTA&#8211;same trading block. And the Canucks helped bail out GM and Chrysler, too. Ford builds the Fusion/Milan/MKZ in Mexico mostly to avoid tariffs in Latin American countries that would be levied on vehicles built in the United States, but not those build in Mexico.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: findude</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501584</link>
		<dc:creator>findude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501584</guid>
		<description>The math for &quot;where&quot; a car is from can be very complicated.  This simple version works for me: 3 points, one for manufacture of engine, one for manufacture of transmission, one for final assembly.  

Of course, determining where those three places were can also be a challenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The math for &#8220;where&#8221; a car is from can be very complicated.  This simple version works for me: 3 points, one for manufacture of engine, one for manufacture of transmission, one for final assembly.  </p>
<p>Of course, determining where those three places were can also be a challenge.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mitchim</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501540</link>
		<dc:creator>mitchim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501540</guid>
		<description>@ZekeToronto

My thoughts as well. The mighty GM has been proped up by many governments

Mitch</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->@ZekeToronto</p>
<p>My thoughts as well. The mighty GM has been proped up by many governments</p>
<p>Mitch<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: derm81</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501521</link>
		<dc:creator>derm81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501521</guid>
		<description>The way I see it is that it’s really a smart business decision, but not a smart PR strategy.  Sucks that it’s our tax dollars. I know that at least 2 Japanese automakers are eyeing Mexico either for plant relocation and/or development.  So a GM line worker in MI is paid $26-27 an hour without the benefits added  on top.  Toyota plants in TX and Alabama are paying what, $22 an hour? I thought Ford’s Hermosillo plant paid roughly $3.25 per hour and the quality of work is usually identical. Like I said before, even the “foreign” manufacturers in the US are going to start to trickle away due to high costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The way I see it is that it’s really a smart business decision, but not a smart PR strategy.  Sucks that it’s our tax dollars. I know that at least 2 Japanese automakers are eyeing Mexico either for plant relocation and/or development.  So a GM line worker in MI is paid $26-27 an hour without the benefits added  on top.  Toyota plants in TX and Alabama are paying what, $22 an hour? I thought Ford’s Hermosillo plant paid roughly $3.25 per hour and the quality of work is usually identical. Like I said before, even the “foreign” manufacturers in the US are going to start to trickle away due to high costs.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: King Bojack</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501505</link>
		<dc:creator>King Bojack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 04:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501505</guid>
		<description>OH NOEEES!!! They buyed cars from drity Mexico and socialist Canada and in doing so provided revenue to corporations that have shit loads of workers everywere!!! Quick, audit trail the government dollars, make sure they doesn&#039;t pay roll a guy making Aveo&#039;s, make sure they doesn&#039;t pay the power bill in China!!! 

Seriously, there are far bigger issues to complain about regarding the auto industry than cash flow for vehicular assembly during a bailout in disguise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->OH NOEEES!!! They buyed cars from drity Mexico and socialist Canada and in doing so provided revenue to corporations that have shit loads of workers everywere!!! Quick, audit trail the government dollars, make sure they doesn&#8217;t pay roll a guy making Aveo&#8217;s, make sure they doesn&#8217;t pay the power bill in China!!! </p>
<p>Seriously, there are far bigger issues to complain about regarding the auto industry than cash flow for vehicular assembly during a bailout in disguise.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bimmer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501493</link>
		<dc:creator>Bimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501493</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;lprocter1982 
I’m pissed off now. They didn’t buy an Crown Vics! Why does Oshawa and Brampton get the business but St. Thomas doesn’t! Stupid gits!&lt;/em&gt;

What Brampton has to do with getting jobs? They make only cars derived from Chrysler 300 platform (300, Charger, Challenger).
Chrysler Grand Caravan are built along with VW Routan cousin in Windsor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>lprocter1982<br />
I’m pissed off now. They didn’t buy an Crown Vics! Why does Oshawa and Brampton get the business but St. Thomas doesn’t! Stupid gits!</em></p>
<p>What Brampton has to do with getting jobs? They make only cars derived from Chrysler 300 platform (300, Charger, Challenger).<br />
Chrysler Grand Caravan are built along with VW Routan cousin in Windsor.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501491</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501491</guid>
		<description>As long as the badge reads Ford, Chrysler or GM thats fine by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->As long as the badge reads Ford, Chrysler or GM thats fine by me.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: lprocter1982</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501476</link>
		<dc:creator>lprocter1982</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501476</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m pissed off now. They didn&#039;t buy an Crown Vics! Why does Oshawa and Brampton get the business but St. Thomas doesn&#039;t! Stupid gits!

Actually, I&#039;m glad they bought a good number of Canadian cars... keeps jobs going in Canada, the way God intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m pissed off now. They didn&#8217;t buy an Crown Vics! Why does Oshawa and Brampton get the business but St. Thomas doesn&#8217;t! Stupid gits!</p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;m glad they bought a good number of Canadian cars&#8230; keeps jobs going in Canada, the way God intended.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Banned User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501438</link>
		<dc:creator>Banned User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501438</guid>
		<description>And the Silverados are also built in Mexico as well as the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->And the Silverados are also built in Mexico as well as the USA.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ZekeToronto</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-foia-request-reveals-fuel-efficient-fleet-buy-breakdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1501406</link>
		<dc:creator>ZekeToronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=320079#comment-1501406</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t know about Mexico, but I&#039;m pretty sure the reason Canadian-built products are on the list is because we Canadian taxpayers paid our share (to the tune of $10 billion) towards keeping these dead car companies walking. And at the end of the day, all we got for our money was to keep a few manufacturing jobs  ... any profits (hah, as if!) would be sucked back to the US. So quit yer bitchin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I don&#8217;t know about Mexico, but I&#8217;m pretty sure the reason Canadian-built products are on the list is because we Canadian taxpayers paid our share (to the tune of $10 billion) towards keeping these dead car companies walking. And at the end of the day, all we got for our money was to keep a few manufacturing jobs  &#8230; any profits (hah, as if!) would be sucked back to the US. So quit yer bitchin.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
<!--
This site's performance optimized by W3 Total Cache:

W3 Total Cache improves the user experience of your blog by caching
frequent operations, reducing the weight of various files and providing
transparent content delivery network integration.

Learn more about our WordPress Plugins: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Page Caching using memcached
Database Caching 59/167 queries in 0.141 seconds using memcached

Served from: server32.autoforums.com @ 2009-11-22 17:53:58 -->