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	<title>Comments on: Your Nominations Please: The First Annual Bob Lutz Award</title>
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		<title>By: Stein X Leikanger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-2/#comment-174892</link>
		<dc:creator>Stein X Leikanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ bluecon

&lt;em&gt;You gotta give the guy credit.&lt;/em&gt; 

&lt;em&gt;We are suffering through the coldest winter in decades,&lt;/em&gt;
Localized - average temperatures, worldwide, are rising.
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all the ice and more has returned to the Arctic,&lt;/em&gt;
To the contrary - there&#039;s never been as dramatic a reduction of the Arctic ice sheet as that experienced now. People are planning supertanker traffic in the Northwest and Northeast passages.

&lt;em&gt; the snow cover is at the greatest level ever&lt;/em&gt;
Ask Greenlanders about that one -- Bjørn Lomborg shows to variations in the snow cover, but that&#039;s being strongly disputed by more current data.

 &lt;em&gt;and all the GW of the last 100 years has been reversed and he states that GW is a bunch of baloney.&lt;/em&gt;
Really? Reversed?

&lt;em&gt; Seems to be the only guy willing to state the obvious and without fear of the attack lefty press.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m not swallowing the GW mantra in any uncritical fashion. Have still not seen Gore&#039;s presentation, for instance, but probably because I&#039;ve been keeping on top of this through scientific research, and didn&#039;t need the popularized version.
That famous left wing institution The National Geographic seems to disagree with your data points above, though -- and I find it mystical that you can believe this ...</description>
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<p><em>You gotta give the guy credit.</em> </p>
<p><em>We are suffering through the coldest winter in decades,</em><br />
Localized &#8211; average temperatures, worldwide, are rising.<br />
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all the ice and more has returned to the Arctic,</em><br />
To the contrary &#8211; there&#8217;s never been as dramatic a reduction of the Arctic ice sheet as that experienced now. People are planning supertanker traffic in the Northwest and Northeast passages.</p>
<p><em> the snow cover is at the greatest level ever</em><br />
Ask Greenlanders about that one &#8212; Bjørn Lomborg shows to variations in the snow cover, but that&#8217;s being strongly disputed by more current data.</p>
<p> <em>and all the GW of the last 100 years has been reversed and he states that GW is a bunch of baloney.</em><br />
Really? Reversed?</p>
<p><em> Seems to be the only guy willing to state the obvious and without fear of the attack lefty press.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not swallowing the GW mantra in any uncritical fashion. Have still not seen Gore&#8217;s presentation, for instance, but probably because I&#8217;ve been keeping on top of this through scientific research, and didn&#8217;t need the popularized version.<br />
That famous left wing institution The National Geographic seems to disagree with your data points above, though &#8212; and I find it mystical that you can believe this &#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Banned User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-2/#comment-174622</link>
		<dc:creator>Banned User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You gotta give the guy credit.  We are suffering through the coldest winter in decades, all the ice and more has returned to the Arctic, the snow cover is at the greatest level ever and all the GW of the last 100 years has been reversed and he states that GW is a bunch of baloney.  Seems to be the only guy willing to state the obvious and without fear of the attack lefty press.</description>
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		<title>By: Stein X Leikanger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-2/#comment-174272</link>
		<dc:creator>Stein X Leikanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kman

Some years ago I was present at a meeting where a GM executive was exhorting us to reach for the stars:
&quot;Guys, we gotta move the metal! Gotta get the metal out of the factories, out of the lots, outta here. And I&#039;m going to show you how.&quot;

They might as well have been making nails.</description>
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<p>Some years ago I was present at a meeting where a GM executive was exhorting us to reach for the stars:<br />
&#8220;Guys, we gotta move the metal! Gotta get the metal out of the factories, out of the lots, outta here. And I&#8217;m going to show you how.&#8221;</p>
<p>They might as well have been making nails.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Kman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ex-GM CEO Jack Smith. When he said this oh so many years ago, it was a rare moment of insight into the minds of GM&#039;s executives of the time -- the mindset that led, expectedly, to today&#039;s GM: poor product, a messed-up brand identity, overlapping brands, free-fall market share.

Smith&#039;s quote:

&quot;We&#039;re not in the business of making cars; we&#039;re in the business of making money!&quot;

I imagine he said it with a smug grin on his face.

Fool forgot that it&#039;s the cars that make the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->ex-GM CEO Jack Smith. When he said this oh so many years ago, it was a rare moment of insight into the minds of GM&#8217;s executives of the time &#8212; the mindset that led, expectedly, to today&#8217;s GM: poor product, a messed-up brand identity, overlapping brands, free-fall market share.</p>
<p>Smith&#8217;s quote:</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re not in the business of making cars; we&#8217;re in the business of making money!&#8221;</p>
<p>I imagine he said it with a smug grin on his face.</p>
<p>Fool forgot that it&#8217;s the cars that make the money.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stein X Leikanger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stein X Leikanger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Skooter and Jerome10

&lt;em&gt;Jerome10
“Yet all we hear is people here tearing this guy a new one. Why does he not get the benefit of the doubt? Cause he works for General Motors?”

I believe he hit the proverbial nail right on the head…&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ll have to repeat this one then. I have, for years, found Lutz completely out of connection with what&#039;s actually going on in the world - and this quote from Newsweek couldn&#039;t sum it up any better.


&lt;strong&gt;“I believe strongly that this country has to get off oil,” he says, sitting beside a massive V-16 engine on display in his office. “The electrification of the automobile is inevitable.”&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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<p><em>Jerome10<br />
“Yet all we hear is people here tearing this guy a new one. Why does he not get the benefit of the doubt? Cause he works for General Motors?”</p>
<p>I believe he hit the proverbial nail right on the head…</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to repeat this one then. I have, for years, found Lutz completely out of connection with what&#8217;s actually going on in the world &#8211; and this quote from Newsweek couldn&#8217;t sum it up any better.</p>
<p><strong>“I believe strongly that this country has to get off oil,” he says, sitting beside a massive V-16 engine on display in his office. “The electrification of the automobile is inevitable.”</strong><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-2/#comment-174212</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KixStart I totally forgot we are fast coming apon out &quot;Easter Bunny&quot; deadline for a &lt;em&gt;running&lt;/em&gt; Volt prototype. Or did they scale that back to a last gen Malibu with a working E-flex drivetrain?

Lutz needs an &quot;Egg on Your Face&quot; award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->KixStart I totally forgot we are fast coming apon out &#8220;Easter Bunny&#8221; deadline for a <em>running</em> Volt prototype. Or did they scale that back to a last gen Malibu with a working E-flex drivetrain?</p>
<p>Lutz needs an &#8220;Egg on Your Face&#8221; award.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: KixStart</title>
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		<dc:creator>KixStart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skooter, it has nothing to do with GM.

Just as a general rule of thumb, auto industry executives should refrain from talking about the &quot;Easter bunny&quot; when discussing their product plans and timing.

If you say a major rival will have egg on its face on a date 4 months out because your product will be doing thus-and-so by that date, your product really ought to do thus-and-so by that date or you risk looking stupid.

And if your rival doesn&#039;t call your product plans &quot;wacky,&quot; don&#039;t say your rival called your plans &quot;wacky.&quot;  Using that word tends to associate you with that word.

Put these elements together and you&#039;ve got major comedy potential.  Unfortunately, GM is not a comedy club, it&#039;s a car business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Skooter, it has nothing to do with GM.</p>
<p>Just as a general rule of thumb, auto industry executives should refrain from talking about the &#8220;Easter bunny&#8221; when discussing their product plans and timing.</p>
<p>If you say a major rival will have egg on its face on a date 4 months out because your product will be doing thus-and-so by that date, your product really ought to do thus-and-so by that date or you risk looking stupid.</p>
<p>And if your rival doesn&#8217;t call your product plans &#8220;wacky,&#8221; don&#8217;t say your rival called your plans &#8220;wacky.&#8221;  Using that word tends to associate you with that word.</p>
<p>Put these elements together and you&#8217;ve got major comedy potential.  Unfortunately, GM is not a comedy club, it&#8217;s a car business.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Redbarchetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redbarchetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;argentla&lt;/em&gt; I don&#039;t think the premium fuel 19 gallon tank and mileage are going to hurt it in it&#039;s target market too bad. That is only 2 more gallons and 2 mpg less than our Legacy GT and people are still buying cars in that segment. Now how many of the GT do they plan to sell and is the more mainstream V6 way more effiecient? If the numbers are too high on the first and low on the second then I agree they will have some problems, par for the course at Pontiac right now.

&lt;em&gt;Skooter&lt;/em&gt; TTAC is pretty fair in exposing all the executives from other brands stupidity and failures. If Lutz would just shutup and get to work creating these next generation game changers he might not be getting this award. But since he loves to get up and sound stupid &lt;strong&gt;A LOT&lt;/strong&gt; I think he is most deserving of the award in his namesake. I will give him credit for speaking his mind however confused it is most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>argentla</em> I don&#8217;t think the premium fuel 19 gallon tank and mileage are going to hurt it in it&#8217;s target market too bad. That is only 2 more gallons and 2 mpg less than our Legacy GT and people are still buying cars in that segment. Now how many of the GT do they plan to sell and is the more mainstream V6 way more effiecient? If the numbers are too high on the first and low on the second then I agree they will have some problems, par for the course at Pontiac right now.</p>
<p><em>Skooter</em> TTAC is pretty fair in exposing all the executives from other brands stupidity and failures. If Lutz would just shutup and get to work creating these next generation game changers he might not be getting this award. But since he loves to get up and sound stupid <strong>A LOT</strong> I think he is most deserving of the award in his namesake. I will give him credit for speaking his mind however confused it is most of the time.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: argentla</title>
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		<dc:creator>argentla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I nominate Edmunds&#039; Ed Hellwig, who recently wrote of the Pontiac G8 -- the car that&#039;s supposed to Save Pontiac, remember -- &quot;Pontiac says the GT will have EPA ratings of 15 mpg city/24 mpg highway. When you take into account its sizable 19-gallon fuel capacity, the GT will go more than 420 miles on a single tank...Not bad.&quot; Uh, an EPA combined rating of 18 mpg (on premium, which around here currently runs about $3.69) is &quot;not bad&quot;? I guess by 1975 standards it&#039;s not, but for something that&#039;s supposed to be a mainstream product, that borders on delusional. 

Runner-up might be any quote from Pete DeLorenzo regarding GM that involves the words &quot;class-leading&quot; or &quot;turnaround.&quot; 

Reality check, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I nominate Edmunds&#8217; Ed Hellwig, who recently wrote of the Pontiac G8 &#8212; the car that&#8217;s supposed to Save Pontiac, remember &#8212; &#8220;Pontiac says the GT will have EPA ratings of 15 mpg city/24 mpg highway. When you take into account its sizable 19-gallon fuel capacity, the GT will go more than 420 miles on a single tank&#8230;Not bad.&#8221; Uh, an EPA combined rating of 18 mpg (on premium, which around here currently runs about $3.69) is &#8220;not bad&#8221;? I guess by 1975 standards it&#8217;s not, but for something that&#8217;s supposed to be a mainstream product, that borders on delusional. </p>
<p>Runner-up might be any quote from Pete DeLorenzo regarding GM that involves the words &#8220;class-leading&#8221; or &#8220;turnaround.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Skooter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skooter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Jerome10&lt;/em&gt; 
&quot;Yet all we hear is people here tearing this guy a new one. Why does he not get the benefit of the doubt? Cause he works for General Motors?&quot;

I believe he hit the proverbial nail right on the head...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Jerome10</em><br />
&#8220;Yet all we hear is people here tearing this guy a new one. Why does he not get the benefit of the doubt? Cause he works for General Motors?&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe he hit the proverbial nail right on the head&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Brian E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 01:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I nominate James Selwa, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/25/maserati-na-chief-selwa-quits/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent ex-CEO&lt;/a&gt; of Maserati North America, for his John Edwards&#039; Evil Twin speech at NAIAS 2008.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;We don&#039;t focus on the mass affluent, the folks who trade up on occasion or buy a Hermes (?) tie, or add a little extra credit card debt to buy that nice pair of shoes.&quot;

&quot;The super rich, the one half of one percent who control &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; the wealth in this country, will play a critical role in deciding which luxury brands are going to prosper and which are going to feel the pain. So, it&#039;s easy to sum up. The rich are very rich. And the very rich have lots of money to spend.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voydCBz0d_Y&amp;feature=user&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;just hear the smugness&lt;/a&gt; dripping from his voice. Fast forward to about the 7:30 mark to skip the boring sales figure and vehicle introduction bits.

As &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/01/14/2008-detroit-auto-show-day-2-report-beige-for-the-bourgeoisie-and-a-chat-with-mr-bangle/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dubspeed Driven put it&lt;/a&gt;: &quot;This fuggin’ guy is going to start the Bolshevik revolution right here in Cobo Hall!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I nominate James Selwa, <a href="http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/25/maserati-na-chief-selwa-quits/" rel="nofollow">recent ex-CEO</a> of Maserati North America, for his John Edwards&#8217; Evil Twin speech at NAIAS 2008.</p>
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&#8220;We don&#8217;t focus on the mass affluent, the folks who trade up on occasion or buy a Hermes (?) tie, or add a little extra credit card debt to buy that nice pair of shoes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The super rich, the one half of one percent who control <i>all</i> the wealth in this country, will play a critical role in deciding which luxury brands are going to prosper and which are going to feel the pain. So, it&#8217;s easy to sum up. The rich are very rich. And the very rich have lots of money to spend.&#8221;
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<p>You can <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voydCBz0d_Y&amp;feature=user" rel="nofollow">just hear the smugness</a> dripping from his voice. Fast forward to about the 7:30 mark to skip the boring sales figure and vehicle introduction bits.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://www.speedsportlife.com/2008/01/14/2008-detroit-auto-show-day-2-report-beige-for-the-bourgeoisie-and-a-chat-with-mr-bangle/" rel="nofollow">Dubspeed Driven put it</a>: &#8220;This fuggin’ guy is going to start the Bolshevik revolution right here in Cobo Hall!&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Voice of Sweden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voice of Sweden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reading an old german edition of auto motor und sport, issue 5 of 1975. They interview Lutz as the Generaldirektor of Ford-Werke AG Köln.

(my translation)

&lt;em&gt;
What was your result for 1974? A loss of 20 million or 30 million D-mark?&lt;/em&gt;
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Lutz: I don&#039;t want to talk about how big our loss was.&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;em&gt;
As a former fighter-pilot and bike enthusiast what do you think of the new Escort?&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Lutz: It would go against Ford&#039;s model politics if I tried to connect my sporty hobbies with the Ford brand. I belive the Escort is a calm, sound and fuel efficient car. And the current flow of orders for the new Escort, is practically twice that of the old Escort at its peak.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I&#8217;m reading an old german edition of auto motor und sport, issue 5 of 1975. They interview Lutz as the Generaldirektor of Ford-Werke AG Köln.</p>
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What was your result for 1974? A loss of 20 million or 30 million D-mark?</em><br />
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Lutz: I don&#8217;t want to talk about how big our loss was.</strong><br />
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As a former fighter-pilot and bike enthusiast what do you think of the new Escort?</em></p>
<p><strong>Lutz: It would go against Ford&#8217;s model politics if I tried to connect my sporty hobbies with the Ford brand. I belive the Escort is a calm, sound and fuel efficient car. And the current flow of orders for the new Escort, is practically twice that of the old Escort at its peak.</strong><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: P.J. McCombs</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-2/#comment-173602</link>
		<dc:creator>P.J. McCombs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be apocryphal, but I remember hearing that, at NAIAS &#039;07, a Changfeng exec described China&#039;s ambitions towards the US market thusly:

&quot;I are going to come all over you!!&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: tn4601</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-173572</link>
		<dc:creator>tn4601</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yutaka Katayama.  The original Maximum Bob.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike S</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-173402</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Bangle (the master of the stuck-on-bits design philosophy)

&quot;I wanted to avoid a .... chopped up look.&quot;
&lt;em&gt;The Car Connection Apr 2007&lt;/em&gt;

Just drop that hatchet and back away slowly Mr. Bangle.</description>
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<p>&#8220;I wanted to avoid a &#8230;. chopped up look.&#8221;<br />
<em>The Car Connection Apr 2007</em></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-173272</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think Chris Bangle and his &quot;Axis of White Power&quot; beats anything Max Bob ever said. Perhaps &quot;outlutzes&quot; is a better phrase, because only an artist of Bangle&#039;s caliber would think of saying that to describe a display, and then not apologize for the miscommunication. Obviously its our fault for listening to his words and twisting them the wrong way.

Jerome10: care to tell me what &lt;em&gt;exactly &lt;/em&gt;Lutz did for Ford? Last time I read the history books, folks like Trotman, Telnack, Veraldi and Donald Peterson were the guys who put product first and saved the company. 

Lutz has been on GM&#039;s payroll for 7+ years, and he&#039;s yet to make a dent in the Import&#039;s growing market share...much less a slam dunk, Sierra-ish, turnaround vehicle during his tenure. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I still think Chris Bangle and his &#8220;Axis of White Power&#8221; beats anything Max Bob ever said. Perhaps &#8220;outlutzes&#8221; is a better phrase, because only an artist of Bangle&#8217;s caliber would think of saying that to describe a display, and then not apologize for the miscommunication. Obviously its our fault for listening to his words and twisting them the wrong way.</p>
<p>Jerome10: care to tell me what <em>exactly </em>Lutz did for Ford? Last time I read the history books, folks like Trotman, Telnack, Veraldi and Donald Peterson were the guys who put product first and saved the company. </p>
<p>Lutz has been on GM&#8217;s payroll for 7+ years, and he&#8217;s yet to make a dent in the Import&#8217;s growing market share&#8230;much less a slam dunk, Sierra-ish, turnaround vehicle during his tenure.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-173262</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s what Lutz did at Ford (wikipedia): &quot;He was also a Vice President at Ford Motor Company, where he led the creation of the Ford Sierra, initiated development of the original Ford Explorer and spearheaded importation of models from Ford of Europe to the United States under the short-lived Merkur brand. The failure of this initiative hurt his political position at Ford and may have contributed to his departure for Chrysler. He was a frequent internal political rival of eventual Ford CEO Red Poling.&quot;

He was head of Ford Europe most of the eighties. The Merkur was a bomb, and the Explorer a no-brainer (a tippy Cherokee imitation).

He wasn&#039;t actively involved in the most interesting Ford eighties products: aero-Fox bodies and Taurus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Here&#8217;s what Lutz did at Ford (wikipedia): &#8220;He was also a Vice President at Ford Motor Company, where he led the creation of the Ford Sierra, initiated development of the original Ford Explorer and spearheaded importation of models from Ford of Europe to the United States under the short-lived Merkur brand. The failure of this initiative hurt his political position at Ford and may have contributed to his departure for Chrysler. He was a frequent internal political rival of eventual Ford CEO Red Poling.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was head of Ford Europe most of the eighties. The Merkur was a bomb, and the Explorer a no-brainer (a tippy Cherokee imitation).</p>
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		<title>By: SherbornSean</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-173232</link>
		<dc:creator>SherbornSean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was it Mullaley or Fields who recently called the new Taurus &quot;the Homer Simpson of cars&quot;?

Makes me want to run out and buy one!</description>
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		<title>By: Orian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-173162</link>
		<dc:creator>Orian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I thought BMW&#039;s engineering put them on the map...and I certainly don&#039;t remember anything fantastic from Ford or GM from the 80&#039;s.</description>
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		<title>By: Matthew Neundorf</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-173152</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Neundorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max Bob wins hands down...

“Kirk Kerkorian has not been through the design dome,”

&quot;then we would have to take a look at a phase-out. I hope we wouldn&#039;t have to do that. What we&#039;ve got to do is keep the brands we&#039;ve got.”

&quot;The choice is no longer between keeping the same job or keeping the same job at a lower wage, ... The choice is now keeping the same job at less compensation or having no jobs at all in this country.”

just a couple gems.</description>
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<p>“Kirk Kerkorian has not been through the design dome,”</p>
<p>&#8220;then we would have to take a look at a phase-out. I hope we wouldn&#8217;t have to do that. What we&#8217;ve got to do is keep the brands we&#8217;ve got.”</p>
<p>&#8220;The choice is no longer between keeping the same job or keeping the same job at a lower wage, &#8230; The choice is now keeping the same job at less compensation or having no jobs at all in this country.”</p>
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		<title>By: jaje</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-173082</link>
		<dc:creator>jaje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think someone is drinking Lutz&#039; kool aid.</description>
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		<title>By: mykeliam</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-173032</link>
		<dc:creator>mykeliam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He created the superb 80’s Fords........ He is doing wonders at GM.
I&#039;m having a tough time remembering those superb 80&#039;s Fords.  But they were the best, weren&#039;t they???</description>
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		<title>By: Jerome10</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-172942</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how people on this sight think they know more about the auto biz than this guy.  That somehow he&#039;s an idiot.

This is how mr. lutz has always operated.  He has been the man responsible for some of the best cars in the history of the automobile.  He put BMW on the map.  He created the superb 80&#039;s Fords.  He gave us the Viper.  He is doing wonders at GM.

Name me one other auto executive who has had more influence over the entire auto industry than this guy, and at so many different places.  Soichiro Honda?  Maybe.  But not to the degree Bob Lutz has.

Yet all we hear is people here tearing this guy a new one.  Why does he not get the benefit of the doubt?  Cause he works for General Motors?  How about if he were at VW?  Or Porsche?  Or Toyota?

I&#039;ll have to come back.  IIRC, that winkerdorn dude at the head of Porsche has made some pretty boneheaded comments as of late.  Same with the VW chair guy (was that 800,000 units per year in the US??).  Ferdinand Piech?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I love how people on this sight think they know more about the auto biz than this guy.  That somehow he&#8217;s an idiot.</p>
<p>This is how mr. lutz has always operated.  He has been the man responsible for some of the best cars in the history of the automobile.  He put BMW on the map.  He created the superb 80&#8217;s Fords.  He gave us the Viper.  He is doing wonders at GM.</p>
<p>Name me one other auto executive who has had more influence over the entire auto industry than this guy, and at so many different places.  Soichiro Honda?  Maybe.  But not to the degree Bob Lutz has.</p>
<p>Yet all we hear is people here tearing this guy a new one.  Why does he not get the benefit of the doubt?  Cause he works for General Motors?  How about if he were at VW?  Or Porsche?  Or Toyota?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have to come back.  IIRC, that winkerdorn dude at the head of Porsche has made some pretty boneheaded comments as of late.  Same with the VW chair guy (was that 800,000 units per year in the US??).  Ferdinand Piech?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: brettc</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ttac-announces-its-first-annual-bob-lutz-award/comment-page-1/#comment-171242</link>
		<dc:creator>brettc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I nominate Stefan Jacoby from VWoA. The quote that comes to mind is that they&#039;re going to be selling as many cars as Toyota in North America by 2018. And they&#039;re going to be selling a Chrylser minivan as a VW &quot;Routan&quot;. How pathetic can a company get? Along with all the other missed opportunities when car sales were doing well and they had complete crap for product choices, VW deserves this award. And don&#039;t forget VW&#039;s horrific dealer network, that&#039;s an added bonus.</description>
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		<title>By: edgett</title>
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		<dc:creator>edgett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I recall, the &quot;America&#039;s Cup&quot; was named for the first winner of the race, the yacht America. The &quot;Lutzie&quot; deserves no less even though there is no shortage of over-compensated and under-imaginative competition. Like the Oscars, mightn&#039;t TTAC&#039;s &quot;Lutzie&quot; expand to other areas like Design Chris Bangle), Total Cluelessness (Bob Nardelli), Advertising (I&#039;m sure there are scores of nominees for this one) and so forth. No doubt the creative and always willing editorial staff of TTAC will find a means to immortalize Maximum Bob in all the ways that he deserves. 

The worst thing about Lutz is that, unlike Rick Wagoner, who cannot be expected to have any feelings for a piece of machinery whatsoever, Mr. Lutz has shown that he does have some passion for vehicles in general. Yet he seems so steeped in the Detroit kool-aid that it is marketing and branding that make great vehicles, he is unable to smell crap when they build it.

Might I also suggest a &quot;Solstice&quot; award for the best idea that was pulled too early from the oven?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->As I recall, the &#8220;America&#8217;s Cup&#8221; was named for the first winner of the race, the yacht America. The &#8220;Lutzie&#8221; deserves no less even though there is no shortage of over-compensated and under-imaginative competition. Like the Oscars, mightn&#8217;t TTAC&#8217;s &#8220;Lutzie&#8221; expand to other areas like Design Chris Bangle), Total Cluelessness (Bob Nardelli), Advertising (I&#8217;m sure there are scores of nominees for this one) and so forth. No doubt the creative and always willing editorial staff of TTAC will find a means to immortalize Maximum Bob in all the ways that he deserves. </p>
<p>The worst thing about Lutz is that, unlike Rick Wagoner, who cannot be expected to have any feelings for a piece of machinery whatsoever, Mr. Lutz has shown that he does have some passion for vehicles in general. Yet he seems so steeped in the Detroit kool-aid that it is marketing and branding that make great vehicles, he is unable to smell crap when they build it.</p>
<p>Might I also suggest a &#8220;Solstice&#8221; award for the best idea that was pulled too early from the oven?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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