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		<title>By: ted1</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-1523597</link>
		<dc:creator>ted1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear ya man.  Hilarious to read these old comments about the Tacoma not meeting the grade. Duh! Taco&#039;s continue to prove their worth. I made my mistake when I chose a Ranger over a Taco back in 2006. When I look a the resale value of the Ford vs. Tacoma now I cry. End of 2009 it&#039;s Taco time.</description>
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		<title>By: ptensioned</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-1497193</link>
		<dc:creator>ptensioned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is an old article, and it&#039;s unlikely anyone will read this post, but as a Tacoma driver I feel the need to put in my 2 cents as to why I disagree with many of the statements above.

First off, cost.  Yes, it&#039;s expensive, but not much more than the (in my opinion) clearly lower rent Frontier.  Compared to a full size domestic, it&#039;s about on par.  But the reliability alone is worth that to me.  This truck is bulletproof, as just about every survey can attest.  Resale is also a huge factor.  I priced used trucks along with new when I was doing the shopping, and a three year old domestic is worth barely 50% of purchase.  A similar Toyota was closer to 80%.  In fact, that&#039;s the main reason I bought new as it made no sense to get a mid-mileage truck for marginal savings.

Second, size.  Where I live, the downtown area is very dense.  Lanes, parking spaces, turning radii, all are squeezed to the limit.  A full size truck is simply a pain to live with day-to-day in this environment.  The Tacoma (I have the full Double Cab, long box, TRD version) is long (just as long as an extended cab 6.5&#039; box F-150), but significantly narrower.  This makes all the difference.  Yes, it&#039;s big for a so-called mid-size truck, but I would argue that it&#039;s the full size trucks that have gotten too big.   

Overall, I have spent significant time in every full size with the exception of the Nissan Titan (whose reliability record automatically disqualified it from purchase consideration).  As a specialty contractor, I travel a lot for jobs and therefore rent whatever is available locally.  The Dodge is crappiest, and calling it a lard bucket is being kind.  The GM is solid, but I hate the soft, floaty ride (I know I&#039;m in the minority of truck owners there, but hey...).  The Tundra is simply huge, and with the 5.7 an absolute rocket, but to me it seems Toyota cut costs in too many places to try and be at least close to the domestics in price.  The Ford is my favorite of the bunch, with low MSRP, decent enough handling, and reasonable quality.

Overall, though, none of them can touch the Tacoma for usability.  For the way I use a truck, it meets my needs perfectly.  It can haul and tow 2/3&#039;s of what a full size can, which realistically is all I need.  It can cope with a much broader range of driving environments (tight downtown traffic, far better off-road for my occasional back woods camping trips and muddy jobsites, not to mention it&#039;s dramatically better in the snow).  It gets marginally better fuel costs (including premium gas) than any full size I&#039;ve driven.  Finally, it&#039;s more fun to drive (yes, you need to rev the teats off it).

I read a lot of comments above (not all) from people who clearly don&#039;t understand what many people want out of a truck.  Considering the Tacoma&#039;s comparative sales numbers (with a huge price disadvantage), clearly I&#039;m not alone in finding the Tacoma to be an ideal compromise.

The hood scoop does suck though.</description>
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<p>First off, cost.  Yes, it&#8217;s expensive, but not much more than the (in my opinion) clearly lower rent Frontier.  Compared to a full size domestic, it&#8217;s about on par.  But the reliability alone is worth that to me.  This truck is bulletproof, as just about every survey can attest.  Resale is also a huge factor.  I priced used trucks along with new when I was doing the shopping, and a three year old domestic is worth barely 50% of purchase.  A similar Toyota was closer to 80%.  In fact, that&#8217;s the main reason I bought new as it made no sense to get a mid-mileage truck for marginal savings.</p>
<p>Second, size.  Where I live, the downtown area is very dense.  Lanes, parking spaces, turning radii, all are squeezed to the limit.  A full size truck is simply a pain to live with day-to-day in this environment.  The Tacoma (I have the full Double Cab, long box, TRD version) is long (just as long as an extended cab 6.5&#8242; box F-150), but significantly narrower.  This makes all the difference.  Yes, it&#8217;s big for a so-called mid-size truck, but I would argue that it&#8217;s the full size trucks that have gotten too big.   </p>
<p>Overall, I have spent significant time in every full size with the exception of the Nissan Titan (whose reliability record automatically disqualified it from purchase consideration).  As a specialty contractor, I travel a lot for jobs and therefore rent whatever is available locally.  The Dodge is crappiest, and calling it a lard bucket is being kind.  The GM is solid, but I hate the soft, floaty ride (I know I&#8217;m in the minority of truck owners there, but hey&#8230;).  The Tundra is simply huge, and with the 5.7 an absolute rocket, but to me it seems Toyota cut costs in too many places to try and be at least close to the domestics in price.  The Ford is my favorite of the bunch, with low MSRP, decent enough handling, and reasonable quality.</p>
<p>Overall, though, none of them can touch the Tacoma for usability.  For the way I use a truck, it meets my needs perfectly.  It can haul and tow 2/3&#8217;s of what a full size can, which realistically is all I need.  It can cope with a much broader range of driving environments (tight downtown traffic, far better off-road for my occasional back woods camping trips and muddy jobsites, not to mention it&#8217;s dramatically better in the snow).  It gets marginally better fuel costs (including premium gas) than any full size I&#8217;ve driven.  Finally, it&#8217;s more fun to drive (yes, you need to rev the teats off it).</p>
<p>I read a lot of comments above (not all) from people who clearly don&#8217;t understand what many people want out of a truck.  Considering the Tacoma&#8217;s comparative sales numbers (with a huge price disadvantage), clearly I&#8217;m not alone in finding the Tacoma to be an ideal compromise.</p>
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		<title>By: The Luigiian</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-631522</link>
		<dc:creator>The Luigiian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been able to see the Toyota Tacoma yet at a dealership. It, the Chevy Colorado and the Jeep Patriot are the only cars I like, at all. I want to see what they&#039;ve done to the back parts of the 2009 Taco Access Cab. I would like to have a useable rear seat for a 5&#039;9 adult, and the older seats didn&#039;t work--I checked. I wonder whether the new seats help any. The backrest still looks awful and uncomfortable, but it&#039;s got headrests and a place for your bottom, and it looks like they might be a little taller too. I remember that there was plenty of room back there, or at least for an extended cab compact there was.

Has anybody seen the new &#039;09 Access Cab?

Further, can anybody explain to me why they didn&#039;t just make the jumpseats a single solid bench, maybe with a cloth lightly-padded backrest? The new center console looks like it would make it harder to use the back part of the cab to lay out long things, like a sleeping dog or what have you. Why didn&#039;t they just eliminate the console entirely and stretch the jumpseats from one side to the other, like in the old T-100 extended cab?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I haven&#8217;t been able to see the Toyota Tacoma yet at a dealership. It, the Chevy Colorado and the Jeep Patriot are the only cars I like, at all. I want to see what they&#8217;ve done to the back parts of the 2009 Taco Access Cab. I would like to have a useable rear seat for a 5&#8242;9 adult, and the older seats didn&#8217;t work&#8211;I checked. I wonder whether the new seats help any. The backrest still looks awful and uncomfortable, but it&#8217;s got headrests and a place for your bottom, and it looks like they might be a little taller too. I remember that there was plenty of room back there, or at least for an extended cab compact there was.</p>
<p>Has anybody seen the new &#8216;09 Access Cab?</p>
<p>Further, can anybody explain to me why they didn&#8217;t just make the jumpseats a single solid bench, maybe with a cloth lightly-padded backrest? The new center console looks like it would make it harder to use the back part of the cab to lay out long things, like a sleeping dog or what have you. Why didn&#8217;t they just eliminate the console entirely and stretch the jumpseats from one side to the other, like in the old T-100 extended cab?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: baldheadeddork</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-623632</link>
		<dc:creator>baldheadeddork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not quite, Robert. The four-cylinder Tacoma&#039;s have always held their value better than practically everything else in the market. Even in 2005, before gas really took off, the three-year depreciation for a last-generation Tacoma was under 20%. The Ranger and Colorado took that kind of hit in their first year, and the Nissan wasn&#039;t far behind. 

You can see this if you do resale research today, too. The four-cylinder Ranger still has the highest depreciation rate despite having the best fuel economy in the class - thank Ford for hanging four-figure incentives on the nose of new trucks to kneecap the value of the one sitting in your driveway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Not quite, Robert. The four-cylinder Tacoma&#8217;s have always held their value better than practically everything else in the market. Even in 2005, before gas really took off, the three-year depreciation for a last-generation Tacoma was under 20%. The Ranger and Colorado took that kind of hit in their first year, and the Nissan wasn&#8217;t far behind. </p>
<p>You can see this if you do resale research today, too. The four-cylinder Ranger still has the highest depreciation rate despite having the best fuel economy in the class &#8211; thank Ford for hanging four-figure incentives on the nose of new trucks to kneecap the value of the one sitting in your driveway.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Farago</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-612582</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Farago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;baldheadeddork&lt;/em&gt;

Taco owners lucked out. The huge move out of full-size trucks pushed demand for small pickups through the roof. Better to be lucky than smart, as my father always says.</description>
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<p>Taco owners lucked out. The huge move out of full-size trucks pushed demand for small pickups through the roof. Better to be lucky than smart, as my father always says.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: baldheadeddork</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-612572</link>
		<dc:creator>baldheadeddork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if anyone will ever read this because the thread is so old, but Sajeev overlooks the most obvious source of value in the Tacoma - its resale value. 

I bought my 2005 Taco Prerunner (Regular cab/4cyl/5sp/SR5) new three years ago for $15,600 plus tax and plates. Today its worth $13,200. That&#039;s a total depreciation of 15% over three years. Any full size truck has lost about 50% over the same period. That&#039;s the value of the Tacoma and no other truck comes close.

The four-banger Taco does a lot better on fuel economy, too. I get 20/25 and the 2.7 Taco doesn&#039;t need premium to hit those numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I don&#8217;t know if anyone will ever read this because the thread is so old, but Sajeev overlooks the most obvious source of value in the Tacoma &#8211; its resale value. </p>
<p>I bought my 2005 Taco Prerunner (Regular cab/4cyl/5sp/SR5) new three years ago for $15,600 plus tax and plates. Today its worth $13,200. That&#8217;s a total depreciation of 15% over three years. Any full size truck has lost about 50% over the same period. That&#8217;s the value of the Tacoma and no other truck comes close.</p>
<p>The four-banger Taco does a lot better on fuel economy, too. I get 20/25 and the 2.7 Taco doesn&#8217;t need premium to hit those numbers.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-78705</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Actually - I completely agree with you regarding the Ranger. I can appreciate it, though I have no desire to drive one.&lt;/em&gt;

I like completely rude and obnoxious trucks, but the Ranger is much too outdated to be a primary vehicle for most anyone. 

&lt;em&gt;Having said that - this is as horrible a time as any to mention that my Tacoma does have the hotly disparaged synthetic hood scoop (hey - it was on there when I picked it off the lot).&lt;/em&gt;

If you want a nicely loaded Taco, you&#039;re pretty much forced to deal with it.  Its a shame, really. 
&lt;em&gt;
I will expect a hearty railing on the fake “bolts” that are “holding” the fender flares on. Poser indeed!&lt;/em&gt;

Yeah that stuff is terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>Actually &#8211; I completely agree with you regarding the Ranger. I can appreciate it, though I have no desire to drive one.</em></p>
<p>I like completely rude and obnoxious trucks, but the Ranger is much too outdated to be a primary vehicle for most anyone. </p>
<p><em>Having said that &#8211; this is as horrible a time as any to mention that my Tacoma does have the hotly disparaged synthetic hood scoop (hey &#8211; it was on there when I picked it off the lot).</em></p>
<p>If you want a nicely loaded Taco, you&#8217;re pretty much forced to deal with it.  Its a shame, really.<br />
<em><br />
I will expect a hearty railing on the fake “bolts” that are “holding” the fender flares on. Poser indeed!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Clargnblost</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-78477</link>
		<dc:creator>Clargnblost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Clargnblost: its always nice to chat with owners like you. :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thanks - this is fun!

&lt;blockquote&gt;... At least the Ranger has aged well. (i.e. as well as can be expected)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I knew it - you&#039;re a Ranger guy [cue Toby Keith].  

Actually - I completely agree with you regarding the Ranger.  I can appreciate it, though I have no desire to drive one.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I feel the Nissans are a bit overdone in styling too, but they are cohesive designs and avoid the mistakes of the Taco (beefy door handles, no fake scoop, symmetrical fender flares, etc). Speaking of, TTAC needs to test the Frontier.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ll give you that the Nissan&#039;s do have a more purposefully consistent design over, say, the Honda Element.  However, the overly manly door handles and random bulges are not attractive to everyone.  I do appreciate function over form.

Having said that - this is as horrible a time as any to mention that my Tacoma does have the hotly disparaged synthetic hood scoop (hey - it was on there when I picked it off the lot).

I reason that it is functional in the sense that it takes me back to my youthful days with my GTO&#039;s twin hood shovels.  

Alas, the GTO &quot;functional&quot; scoops had about the same level of effectiveness as the Tacoma&#039;s (i.e. none) but at least you could pop the hood on the goat and see that they went somewhere.  Perhaps I should duct the Tacoma&#039;s scoop to the AC intake or something.    

&lt;blockquote&gt;TTAC needs to test the Frontier.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If this comes to pass, I will expect a hearty railing on the fake &quot;bolts&quot; that are &quot;holding&quot; the fender flares on.  Poser indeed!</description>
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<blockquote>Clargnblost: its always nice to chat with owners like you. :)</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks &#8211; this is fun!</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; At least the Ranger has aged well. (i.e. as well as can be expected)</p></blockquote>
<p>I knew it &#8211; you&#8217;re a Ranger guy [cue Toby Keith].  </p>
<p>Actually &#8211; I completely agree with you regarding the Ranger.  I can appreciate it, though I have no desire to drive one.</p>
<blockquote><p>I feel the Nissans are a bit overdone in styling too, but they are cohesive designs and avoid the mistakes of the Taco (beefy door handles, no fake scoop, symmetrical fender flares, etc). Speaking of, TTAC needs to test the Frontier.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you that the Nissan&#8217;s do have a more purposefully consistent design over, say, the Honda Element.  However, the overly manly door handles and random bulges are not attractive to everyone.  I do appreciate function over form.</p>
<p>Having said that &#8211; this is as horrible a time as any to mention that my Tacoma does have the hotly disparaged synthetic hood scoop (hey &#8211; it was on there when I picked it off the lot).</p>
<p>I reason that it is functional in the sense that it takes me back to my youthful days with my GTO&#8217;s twin hood shovels.  </p>
<p>Alas, the GTO &#8220;functional&#8221; scoops had about the same level of effectiveness as the Tacoma&#8217;s (i.e. none) but at least you could pop the hood on the goat and see that they went somewhere.  Perhaps I should duct the Tacoma&#8217;s scoop to the AC intake or something.    </p>
<blockquote><p>TTAC needs to test the Frontier.</p></blockquote>
<p>If this comes to pass, I will expect a hearty railing on the fake &#8220;bolts&#8221; that are &#8220;holding&#8221; the fender flares on.  Poser indeed!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clargnblost: its always nice to chat with owners like you. :)

When I saw the Dakota I thought it was a reject from a Grand Theft Auto video game. Just a terrible design with zero refinement inside and out. At least the Ranger has aged well. (i.e. as well as can be expected)

I feel the Nissans are a bit overdone in styling too, but they are cohesive designs and avoid the mistakes of the Taco (beefy door handles, no fake scoop, symmetrical fender flares, etc).  Speaking of, TTAC needs to test the Frontier. 

And I don&#039;t mind the Pre-runner concept at all. You get the ground clearance/locking axle/tires/etc needed for trail use but none of the parasitic drivetrain loss of a 4x4. And there&#039;s a whole class of Baja Pre-Runner race trucks. Its the real deal, even if Poseurs flaunt &#039;em too.</description>
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<p>When I saw the Dakota I thought it was a reject from a Grand Theft Auto video game. Just a terrible design with zero refinement inside and out. At least the Ranger has aged well. (i.e. as well as can be expected)</p>
<p>I feel the Nissans are a bit overdone in styling too, but they are cohesive designs and avoid the mistakes of the Taco (beefy door handles, no fake scoop, symmetrical fender flares, etc).  Speaking of, TTAC needs to test the Frontier. </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t mind the Pre-runner concept at all. You get the ground clearance/locking axle/tires/etc needed for trail use but none of the parasitic drivetrain loss of a 4&#215;4. And there&#8217;s a whole class of Baja Pre-Runner race trucks. Its the real deal, even if Poseurs flaunt &#8216;em too.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Clargnblost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clargnblost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sajeev - I really appreciate the dialog.  I&#039;m impressed with your attention to your work.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot; Sajeev Mehta&quot;&gt;I’ll also agree that the Dakota is even uglier…but that’s not a compliment to the Taco. I still think its a clumsy, bloated rig with no sense of what a truck is supposed to look like.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Glad to know it&#039;s not just me when it comes to the Dakota.  Seriously - it looks like they went ahead and pre-wrecked it for you before you took delivery to save you the trouble.

Tacoma Bloated?  For a primo example of bloated see above reference to the Armada (as well as the Nissan pickup that originated the statement).  Nissan must have hired away Billy Bulbous from Pontiac to needlessly push the panels out further on an already ginormous vehicle.

Why am I the only one who cowers from the Nissans?

I&#039;ll concede that the fender flares on the Tacoma could be slightly more conservative - but this seems like the thing to do these days.  The new Chevy full size reminds me of the early 70s Monty Carlo, and I think I&#039;ve said enough about Dodge and Nissan.  Ford has done a respectable design job, but good God - those &quot;Big Dog Daddy&quot; commercials have got to go.

And - need I mention the Honda Ridgeline?

IMHO by comparison, the Tacoma is pretty restrained - but you are correct in one regard.  It does not look like what a truck is supposed to.  It also doesn&#039;t have fjord like panel gaps (btw - that was f&lt;b&gt;j&lt;/b&gt;ord, not ford - but either way...) and rattle like a cowbell if you drive over a speed bump.

Since you mentioned it - what is a truck supposed to look like?

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;naugahyde&quot;&gt;I want to address the comments that the 2wd Prerunner model is a “poser 4×4″.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I contemplated the 4x4 - but went pre-runner.  My truck is primarily a commuter and weekend home-depot plywood hauler (apparently too harsh a workload for my C-1500, RIP) and the step down in mileage for the privilege of carting around extra 4x4 parts un-sold me.  I do go off-road on rare occasions with all my astronomy gear but it&#039;s pretty tame stuff which the Tacoma has 0 problems with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sajeev &#8211; I really appreciate the dialog.  I&#8217;m impressed with your attention to your work.</p>
<blockquote cite=" Sajeev Mehta"><p>I’ll also agree that the Dakota is even uglier…but that’s not a compliment to the Taco. I still think its a clumsy, bloated rig with no sense of what a truck is supposed to look like.</p></blockquote>
<p>Glad to know it&#8217;s not just me when it comes to the Dakota.  Seriously &#8211; it looks like they went ahead and pre-wrecked it for you before you took delivery to save you the trouble.</p>
<p>Tacoma Bloated?  For a primo example of bloated see above reference to the Armada (as well as the Nissan pickup that originated the statement).  Nissan must have hired away Billy Bulbous from Pontiac to needlessly push the panels out further on an already ginormous vehicle.</p>
<p>Why am I the only one who cowers from the Nissans?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll concede that the fender flares on the Tacoma could be slightly more conservative &#8211; but this seems like the thing to do these days.  The new Chevy full size reminds me of the early 70s Monty Carlo, and I think I&#8217;ve said enough about Dodge and Nissan.  Ford has done a respectable design job, but good God &#8211; those &#8220;Big Dog Daddy&#8221; commercials have got to go.</p>
<p>And &#8211; need I mention the Honda Ridgeline?</p>
<p>IMHO by comparison, the Tacoma is pretty restrained &#8211; but you are correct in one regard.  It does not look like what a truck is supposed to.  It also doesn&#8217;t have fjord like panel gaps (btw &#8211; that was f<b>j</b>ord, not ford &#8211; but either way&#8230;) and rattle like a cowbell if you drive over a speed bump.</p>
<p>Since you mentioned it &#8211; what is a truck supposed to look like?</p>
<blockquote cite="naugahyde"><p>I want to address the comments that the 2wd Prerunner model is a “poser 4×4″.</p></blockquote>
<p>I contemplated the 4&#215;4 &#8211; but went pre-runner.  My truck is primarily a commuter and weekend home-depot plywood hauler (apparently too harsh a workload for my C-1500, RIP) and the step down in mileage for the privilege of carting around extra 4&#215;4 parts un-sold me.  I do go off-road on rare occasions with all my astronomy gear but it&#8217;s pretty tame stuff which the Tacoma has 0 problems with.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-78145</link>
		<dc:creator>naugahyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought an &#039;07 TRD / offroad Taco a few weeks ago - and love it so far. Sure, I was a little lukewarm on the styling, but that&#039;s not that important to me. 

I want to address the comments that the 2wd Prerunner model is a &quot;poser 4x4&quot;. I like to go out in the backcountry, places like trailheads at the end of a primitive road. I need a truck that can get me to those places, and the 2wd Taco with the locking diff does a fine job of that. I don&#039;t go 4-wheeling just for the fun of burning gas in the wilderness and tearing up trails. I go to those places for quiet, scenery and solitude where I get the workout, not my machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I bought an &#8216;07 TRD / offroad Taco a few weeks ago &#8211; and love it so far. Sure, I was a little lukewarm on the styling, but that&#8217;s not that important to me. </p>
<p>I want to address the comments that the 2wd Prerunner model is a &#8220;poser 4&#215;4&#8243;. I like to go out in the backcountry, places like trailheads at the end of a primitive road. I need a truck that can get me to those places, and the 2wd Taco with the locking diff does a fine job of that. I don&#8217;t go 4-wheeling just for the fun of burning gas in the wilderness and tearing up trails. I go to those places for quiet, scenery and solitude where I get the workout, not my machine.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-77939</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clargnblost: You&#039;re right, the Tacoma is not a compact pickup, nor is it efficient. The 4.0L is a rev happy motor; its not the ideal partner for a large-ish truck. Its a good truck by itself, but it leaves the market wide open for something the size of a Ranger but with modern design. 

And when you factor the price, the market&#039;s big picture gets worse. Its a lousy value, IMO.

But you mentioned piece of mind, and those quality concerns are most valid: and that&#039;s why the Tacoma will please many. The Tundra was plagued with suspension (balljoint?) problems and the new one had camshaft failures...all seem to have been addressed without much trouble. As long as the Tacoma doesn&#039;t follow suit...

I&#039;ll also agree that the Dakota is even uglier...but that&#039;s not a compliment to the Taco. I still think its a clumsy, bloated rig with no sense of what a truck is supposed to look like. 

But I understand why you bought it, and I&#039;m sure you&#039;re gonna love it for years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Clargnblost: You&#8217;re right, the Tacoma is not a compact pickup, nor is it efficient. The 4.0L is a rev happy motor; its not the ideal partner for a large-ish truck. Its a good truck by itself, but it leaves the market wide open for something the size of a Ranger but with modern design. </p>
<p>And when you factor the price, the market&#8217;s big picture gets worse. Its a lousy value, IMO.</p>
<p>But you mentioned piece of mind, and those quality concerns are most valid: and that&#8217;s why the Tacoma will please many. The Tundra was plagued with suspension (balljoint?) problems and the new one had camshaft failures&#8230;all seem to have been addressed without much trouble. As long as the Tacoma doesn&#8217;t follow suit&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also agree that the Dakota is even uglier&#8230;but that&#8217;s not a compliment to the Taco. I still think its a clumsy, bloated rig with no sense of what a truck is supposed to look like. </p>
<p>But I understand why you bought it, and I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re gonna love it for years to come.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Clargnblost</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-77830</link>
		<dc:creator>Clargnblost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Toyota is only 1 MPG better? And it needs Premium gas to make that happen???
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The numbers on my 4.0 four door long bed Tacoma are actually 17/21 with semi-primo fuel, but still - if you are looking for a high mileage pickup, keep looking (and looking..and looking...).  Maybe that four bang Ranger (24/29) is for you.

Keep in mind that the Tacoma is not really so much a compact truck (anymore).

I have, however, noticed that this particular Toyota engine, the 4.0 V6, is not a shining star of efficiency.  If memory serves me, Toyota&#039;s own 5.7L V8 gets only 1 MPG worse in the Tundra than if it had the 4.0 V6.  From a mileage perspective, it seems like a no brainer to actually go with the bigger V8.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Aside from its garage-friendly size and reputation for quality, where’s the value in this vehicle?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

After enduring years of dis-proving GM&#039;s engineering experiments, I have to say that the second item in your list is the big one for me.  My Tacoma was a little north of $30K when I purchased it but I am pretty sure I&#039;ll get at least six digits of mileage without major re-investment in it.

As a side note - consider the recalls lately.  Ford just recalled trucks because they randomly catch on fire (even if turned off).  I received a recall notice for my Chevrolet truck for the wiper motor about a month after I was driving in a very heavy downpour on the freeway (you know, at freeway speeds, with other cars around) and the wipers stopped - just stopped.  I&#039;m in the left lane of an 8 lane city freeway and completely blind at that point.  Talk about soiling your underwear.

Compare - I&#039;ve received two recall notices on the Tacoma.  One was because they didn&#039;t put quite enough umph on a nut enough under the dash that holds the emergency brake lever and the other was for the driver side floor mat.

Hmm...

Someone up there mentioned that the Tacoma is ugly.  While I respectfully disagree with this evaluation - I&#039;d also like to direct your attention to three of the most butt-ugly trucks / SUVs for sale these days:

The Dakota.  What were they thinking??  I can find no angle to look at this machine that is pleasurable.  I think the old AMC (remember the Hornet or the Matador?) design engineers finally broke out of the closet at Chrysler and have taken over.

The Nitro.  Looks like it was modeled after the old Willys Jeep wagon.  Have they already run out of good looking old vehicles to retro?

The Nissan Armada.  This one screams Studebaker at me and not in a good way.

THOSE are ugly.</description>
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<blockquote>The Toyota is only 1 MPG better? And it needs Premium gas to make that happen???
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<p>The numbers on my 4.0 four door long bed Tacoma are actually 17/21 with semi-primo fuel, but still &#8211; if you are looking for a high mileage pickup, keep looking (and looking..and looking&#8230;).  Maybe that four bang Ranger (24/29) is for you.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that the Tacoma is not really so much a compact truck (anymore).</p>
<p>I have, however, noticed that this particular Toyota engine, the 4.0 V6, is not a shining star of efficiency.  If memory serves me, Toyota&#8217;s own 5.7L V8 gets only 1 MPG worse in the Tundra than if it had the 4.0 V6.  From a mileage perspective, it seems like a no brainer to actually go with the bigger V8.</p>
<blockquote><p>Aside from its garage-friendly size and reputation for quality, where’s the value in this vehicle?</p></blockquote>
<p>After enduring years of dis-proving GM&#8217;s engineering experiments, I have to say that the second item in your list is the big one for me.  My Tacoma was a little north of $30K when I purchased it but I am pretty sure I&#8217;ll get at least six digits of mileage without major re-investment in it.</p>
<p>As a side note &#8211; consider the recalls lately.  Ford just recalled trucks because they randomly catch on fire (even if turned off).  I received a recall notice for my Chevrolet truck for the wiper motor about a month after I was driving in a very heavy downpour on the freeway (you know, at freeway speeds, with other cars around) and the wipers stopped &#8211; just stopped.  I&#8217;m in the left lane of an 8 lane city freeway and completely blind at that point.  Talk about soiling your underwear.</p>
<p>Compare &#8211; I&#8217;ve received two recall notices on the Tacoma.  One was because they didn&#8217;t put quite enough umph on a nut enough under the dash that holds the emergency brake lever and the other was for the driver side floor mat.</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Someone up there mentioned that the Tacoma is ugly.  While I respectfully disagree with this evaluation &#8211; I&#8217;d also like to direct your attention to three of the most butt-ugly trucks / SUVs for sale these days:</p>
<p>The Dakota.  What were they thinking??  I can find no angle to look at this machine that is pleasurable.  I think the old AMC (remember the Hornet or the Matador?) design engineers finally broke out of the closet at Chrysler and have taken over.</p>
<p>The Nitro.  Looks like it was modeled after the old Willys Jeep wagon.  Have they already run out of good looking old vehicles to retro?</p>
<p>The Nissan Armada.  This one screams Studebaker at me and not in a good way.</p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I mean unless your towing a trailer full of horses around and still need to rally it off the line like its a GTO, why on earth would you even want one of these big american v8’s anyway? the days of cheap gas are gone and they are never coming back.&lt;/em&gt;

Because a 2WD, V6, automatic Taco manages 16/20 and a similar V8 (5.3L) Chevy Silverado gets 15/20.  Those are EPA cycles.

The Toyota is only 1 MPG better? And it needs Premium gas to make that happen???

Aside from its garage-friendly size and reputation for quality, where&#039;s the value in this vehicle?</description>
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<p>Because a 2WD, V6, automatic Taco manages 16/20 and a similar V8 (5.3L) Chevy Silverado gets 15/20.  Those are EPA cycles.</p>
<p>The Toyota is only 1 MPG better? And it needs Premium gas to make that happen???</p>
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		<title>By: Clargnblost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clargnblost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 14:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this review and (particularly) the comments that follow, I felt obligated to both register and post my experiences. 

Historically, I’ve always been buy-‘merican.  This has lasted since my early dirty-finger-nailed high school 70s muscle cars days (man, I wish I had never sold my ‘70 GTO).  

My previous truck was a ’97 Chevy extended cab 1500 which effectively (and finally) ended my lifelong (I’m now 43) love affair with GM.  This truck was purchased new and the problems began as early as the next morning after I woke up and more closely examined my new truck procured late night just prior.  This should have been a precursor – but apparently the factory just plain forgot to paint certain portion of the exterior just behind the front bumper.  Hmm..  It was still pre-coat gray and I must have missed that during the late night brief examination just before taking ownership.

Now - I’m a white collar guy and this truck had the easy suburban life.  Despite this - the ensuing seven years were marked by what I’d consider a lofty frequency of visits to the dealer until eventually, at a mere 73K miles, both the head gasket and rear main seal decided they’d had enough and performed an all-at-once impressively coordinated collapse.  Combine this with the experience of my prior GM product committing a premature, spectacular, and massively expensive blown head-gasket suicide while idling at a stop-light one day – and the love was definitely gone.

Now consider my wife – who had (at the time) only two cars her entire life.  The first was a Toyota, the second was a Honda.  When both were traded in, they were in perfectly operational condition with very high mileage.  You just get tired of looking at them after a while and you want something new.  They don’t break – this was a new (and very appealing) concept to me.

You certainly can understand then that I only visited Honda and Toyota dealers looking for my next truck.  The Ridgeline was too weird for my taste, the Tundra was about to be complete redesigned, but the freshly redone Taco fit the bill.  Perfect size - about the same length as by C-1500 but about 4” narrower.  Fits in the garage.  Done deal – I got the four door with the off-road sport package (had them pull off all the silly decals – I don’t like driving around with the letters “T[u]RD” stuck on the side) – this was in December of ’04.  The truck has about 30K on it now.  Now - at this point in my Chevy’s brief and pampered life the steering had about 1 inch of play, there were rattles and squeaks coming from all four corners (hitting a bump made the thing shudder endlessly) and the alternator and compressor had already been replaced.  The Toyota – is tight and (so far) problem free.  Put in gas, change the oil.  Drives as if it were still new.

My theory on why most think Ford/Chevy/Dodge make better work trucks is that since they treat you so poorly – you don’t feel all that bad about returning the favor.

The only complaints about Toyota I have is the buying experience was horrendous.  The dealer was sleazy, the packaged options make no sense, they seem designed to make you purchase options that you don’t need and there was no available leather or sunroof options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->After reading this review and (particularly) the comments that follow, I felt obligated to both register and post my experiences. </p>
<p>Historically, I’ve always been buy-‘merican.  This has lasted since my early dirty-finger-nailed high school 70s muscle cars days (man, I wish I had never sold my ‘70 GTO).  </p>
<p>My previous truck was a ’97 Chevy extended cab 1500 which effectively (and finally) ended my lifelong (I’m now 43) love affair with GM.  This truck was purchased new and the problems began as early as the next morning after I woke up and more closely examined my new truck procured late night just prior.  This should have been a precursor – but apparently the factory just plain forgot to paint certain portion of the exterior just behind the front bumper.  Hmm..  It was still pre-coat gray and I must have missed that during the late night brief examination just before taking ownership.</p>
<p>Now &#8211; I’m a white collar guy and this truck had the easy suburban life.  Despite this &#8211; the ensuing seven years were marked by what I’d consider a lofty frequency of visits to the dealer until eventually, at a mere 73K miles, both the head gasket and rear main seal decided they’d had enough and performed an all-at-once impressively coordinated collapse.  Combine this with the experience of my prior GM product committing a premature, spectacular, and massively expensive blown head-gasket suicide while idling at a stop-light one day – and the love was definitely gone.</p>
<p>Now consider my wife – who had (at the time) only two cars her entire life.  The first was a Toyota, the second was a Honda.  When both were traded in, they were in perfectly operational condition with very high mileage.  You just get tired of looking at them after a while and you want something new.  They don’t break – this was a new (and very appealing) concept to me.</p>
<p>You certainly can understand then that I only visited Honda and Toyota dealers looking for my next truck.  The Ridgeline was too weird for my taste, the Tundra was about to be complete redesigned, but the freshly redone Taco fit the bill.  Perfect size &#8211; about the same length as by C-1500 but about 4” narrower.  Fits in the garage.  Done deal – I got the four door with the off-road sport package (had them pull off all the silly decals – I don’t like driving around with the letters “T[u]RD” stuck on the side) – this was in December of ’04.  The truck has about 30K on it now.  Now &#8211; at this point in my Chevy’s brief and pampered life the steering had about 1 inch of play, there were rattles and squeaks coming from all four corners (hitting a bump made the thing shudder endlessly) and the alternator and compressor had already been replaced.  The Toyota – is tight and (so far) problem free.  Put in gas, change the oil.  Drives as if it were still new.</p>
<p>My theory on why most think Ford/Chevy/Dodge make better work trucks is that since they treat you so poorly – you don’t feel all that bad about returning the favor.</p>
<p>The only complaints about Toyota I have is the buying experience was horrendous.  The dealer was sleazy, the packaged options make no sense, they seem designed to make you purchase options that you don’t need and there was no available leather or sunroof options.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: zenith</title>
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		<dc:creator>zenith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Subaru Baja failed because it has no box.

The original Omni-based Rampage, not the pudgy piece of garbage of the same name assembled  by an unimaginative German company that can&#039;t make anything that&#039;s in between ultralight and ridiculously heavy for its class, was a blast to drive and had a GVW of 3350 lbs. Most small trucks don&#039;t weigh as little empty.

Re-release this truck, with its full 6-foot box , galvanize the ENTIRE floorpan (these things died of premature cab-floor rot because the bean counters told Lee and Lutz to galvanize only the box floor and nobody will notice anyway), and give it modern fuel injection and ignition. I&#039;d buy one in a heartbeat.

I have a 2WD Ranger that&#039;s the only thing I can find with  anywhere near as low a liftover height as the old Rampage. It has more rated horsepower and torque than the Rampage had but seems slower.
The extra 28 horses should negate the extra 500 lbs curb weight but doen&#039;t.

Still, I&#039;d take a Ranger over a Tacoma and definitely over a Ridgeline.

The Ridgeline&#039;s curb weight is an astounding 430 lbs higher than my Ranger&#039;s GVW and the payload ratings are exactly the same. Put two pudgy Yuppies and their 2.3 couch potato kids in a Ridgeline and you&#039;ve barely capacity to spare for their iPods. Damn near every one of those vacationing families you see in Ridgelines must be overloading the vehicle. Ditto most fams travelling in &quot;soft carlike ride&quot; SUVs.</description>
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<p>The original Omni-based Rampage, not the pudgy piece of garbage of the same name assembled  by an unimaginative German company that can&#8217;t make anything that&#8217;s in between ultralight and ridiculously heavy for its class, was a blast to drive and had a GVW of 3350 lbs. Most small trucks don&#8217;t weigh as little empty.</p>
<p>Re-release this truck, with its full 6-foot box , galvanize the ENTIRE floorpan (these things died of premature cab-floor rot because the bean counters told Lee and Lutz to galvanize only the box floor and nobody will notice anyway), and give it modern fuel injection and ignition. I&#8217;d buy one in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>I have a 2WD Ranger that&#8217;s the only thing I can find with  anywhere near as low a liftover height as the old Rampage. It has more rated horsepower and torque than the Rampage had but seems slower.<br />
The extra 28 horses should negate the extra 500 lbs curb weight but doen&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;d take a Ranger over a Tacoma and definitely over a Ridgeline.</p>
<p>The Ridgeline&#8217;s curb weight is an astounding 430 lbs higher than my Ranger&#8217;s GVW and the payload ratings are exactly the same. Put two pudgy Yuppies and their 2.3 couch potato kids in a Ridgeline and you&#8217;ve barely capacity to spare for their iPods. Damn near every one of those vacationing families you see in Ridgelines must be overloading the vehicle. Ditto most fams travelling in &#8220;soft carlike ride&#8221; SUVs.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 05:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you need or want a new pickup, and you want it to be.. 4x4, manual transmission, extended cab, and four cylinder  engine.  Then your only option is the Tacoma (it is the only truck available that fits all those criteria), I&#039;ve had mine for a month and i love it. I can tow small trailers well and it drives no different with a ton of mulch in the bed.  I mean unless your towing a trailer full of horses around and still need to rally it off the line like its a GTO, why on earth would you even want one of these big american v8&#039;s anyway? the days of cheap gas are gone and they are never coming back.</description>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 04:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Today I replaced by deteriorating Geo Tracker with a 97 Taco, regcab 4Ã—4 5spd. $5k for 159K miles with few options and air not cold, but looks and drives like itâ€™s a year old.&lt;/em&gt;

Thanks for sharing.  Your comments are spot on, but the premium fuel requirement (sure it can run on regular, but that&#039;s not the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;recommended &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;fuel) and larger dimensions make the new Taco...well...its more like a big truck and less like your Taco. And that&#039;s what I dislike about it.</description>
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<p>Thanks for sharing.  Your comments are spot on, but the premium fuel requirement (sure it can run on regular, but that&#8217;s not the <strong><em>recommended </em></strong>fuel) and larger dimensions make the new Taco&#8230;well&#8230;its more like a big truck and less like your Taco. And that&#8217;s what I dislike about it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: willbodine</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-11298</link>
		<dc:creator>willbodine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am now on my 3rd small Toyota pickup (&#039;03 Tacoma Prerunner V6 Xtra Cab) and it is everything I want or need in a truck. I have driven the newer model and my first reaction was &quot;Are they out of their minds?&quot; It&#039;s soooo BIG.
Unless they re-introduce a small Hilux size pickup back into the US I won&#039;t be replacing my &#039;03 &#039;Taco anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I am now on my 3rd small Toyota pickup (&#8216;03 Tacoma Prerunner V6 Xtra Cab) and it is everything I want or need in a truck. I have driven the newer model and my first reaction was &#8220;Are they out of their minds?&#8221; It&#8217;s soooo BIG.<br />
Unless they re-introduce a small Hilux size pickup back into the US I won&#8217;t be replacing my &#8216;03 &#8216;Taco anytime soon.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: KeepItSimple</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-8847</link>
		<dc:creator>KeepItSimple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today I replaced by deteriorating Geo Tracker with a 97 Taco, regcab 4x4 5spd. $5k for 159K miles with few options and air not cold, but looks and drives like it&#039;s a year old.  I had to go 150 miles to find even a few manual 4x4s to consider. People are either keeping them, buying them immediately, or scrapping them. You guess which.

Why buy a little Taco/Dakota when a F150/1500 can be had? Because it is those ubiquitous &quot;full-size&quot; trucks that fall short. Sure they can hold 4x8 sheets, but try to pile some weight in or do any serious towing and they are hopeless. I already have a 94 F250 with the big 7L. That truck can do some WORK. I had a ton and a half of rock in it, with an extra leaf and damn good tires. The pro does the grunt work and I&#039;ll use the little Toy for my daily 100 mile round-trip commute. I don&#039;t have to go into gas debt to haul trash, I can get to work in any weather and park easily when I arrive, my grill guard will toss the 2-3 deer I hit each year into the ditch like Frisbees, and I bet it has a lunar (238857) on the odometer before I even start thinking about what comes next.

I agree that the newer small trucks are getting too big. Seems like most car/truck models have been doing this for decades, though. Something new steps into the tiny niche when it frees up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Today I replaced by deteriorating Geo Tracker with a 97 Taco, regcab 4&#215;4 5spd. $5k for 159K miles with few options and air not cold, but looks and drives like it&#8217;s a year old.  I had to go 150 miles to find even a few manual 4&#215;4s to consider. People are either keeping them, buying them immediately, or scrapping them. You guess which.</p>
<p>Why buy a little Taco/Dakota when a F150/1500 can be had? Because it is those ubiquitous &#8220;full-size&#8221; trucks that fall short. Sure they can hold 4&#215;8 sheets, but try to pile some weight in or do any serious towing and they are hopeless. I already have a 94 F250 with the big 7L. That truck can do some WORK. I had a ton and a half of rock in it, with an extra leaf and damn good tires. The pro does the grunt work and I&#8217;ll use the little Toy for my daily 100 mile round-trip commute. I don&#8217;t have to go into gas debt to haul trash, I can get to work in any weather and park easily when I arrive, my grill guard will toss the 2-3 deer I hit each year into the ditch like Frisbees, and I bet it has a lunar (238857) on the odometer before I even start thinking about what comes next.</p>
<p>I agree that the newer small trucks are getting too big. Seems like most car/truck models have been doing this for decades, though. Something new steps into the tiny niche when it frees up.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Sajeev Mehta</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-7378</link>
		<dc:creator>Sajeev Mehta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for such a lively and informative discussion.  Its nice to see that TTAC&#039;s commentators know a thing or two about pickups.   

Bravo TTAT-ers!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Thank you all for such a lively and informative discussion.  Its nice to see that TTAC&#8217;s commentators know a thing or two about pickups.   </p>
<p>Bravo TTAT-ers!!!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 4runner</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-7199</link>
		<dc:creator>4runner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 01:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that many of the responses to this review believe that the size and price of the Tacoma will hinder its success in the marketplace. However, when considering a truck, many buyers are not the traditional truck buyer. Many non traditional truck buyers are looking for a capable, good looking truck, that has excellent build quality, holds its resale value and can get small jobs done (think picking up plywood sheets at Home Depot).

Unfortunately, none of the other trucks in this class are up to snuff. The Ranger, although attractive, is too small and outdated for the task. The Colorado/Canyon twins are quite ugly (their front ends look like the results of an explosion in a polygon factory and their interior looks like the inside of a plastic mailbox) and are underpowered. The Dakota, although capable, is not going to bring in the non-traditional truck buyer with its tupperware interior and unrefined chassis. Finally, the Nissan, although very competitive, doesn&#039;t seem to be as refined as the Tacoma  and Nissan seems to be unwilling to spend the marketing dollars to make it a worthy competitor.

Some of my points are quite subjective. However, the marketplace has spoken - the Tacoma is the best selling truck in its class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It appears that many of the responses to this review believe that the size and price of the Tacoma will hinder its success in the marketplace. However, when considering a truck, many buyers are not the traditional truck buyer. Many non traditional truck buyers are looking for a capable, good looking truck, that has excellent build quality, holds its resale value and can get small jobs done (think picking up plywood sheets at Home Depot).</p>
<p>Unfortunately, none of the other trucks in this class are up to snuff. The Ranger, although attractive, is too small and outdated for the task. The Colorado/Canyon twins are quite ugly (their front ends look like the results of an explosion in a polygon factory and their interior looks like the inside of a plastic mailbox) and are underpowered. The Dakota, although capable, is not going to bring in the non-traditional truck buyer with its tupperware interior and unrefined chassis. Finally, the Nissan, although very competitive, doesn&#8217;t seem to be as refined as the Tacoma  and Nissan seems to be unwilling to spend the marketing dollars to make it a worthy competitor.</p>
<p>Some of my points are quite subjective. However, the marketplace has spoken &#8211; the Tacoma is the best selling truck in its class.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: FormerTacoOwner</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-7184</link>
		<dc:creator>FormerTacoOwner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At my friend Sajeev&#039;s request, I have to tell about my experience with Toyota&#039;s customer service. I purchased a 2004 (prev gen model--you know the ones with the steel beds not plastic) brand new in June 2004 for around 24,500. It was a fully loaded Access Cab, 4X4, TRD, V6, AT. I can still say without a doubt it was the best compact truck of that year, hands down, and I never had one single problem with it and loved driving it. But my problems came with Toyota itself. I went to get my truck inspected in June 2006, but I drove away with a reject sticker because the Registry Officer felt my exhaust was too loud. Massachusetts passed a law the past year that bans aftermarket exhaust which amplify the sound of the exhaust over stock. I did put a stainless steel cat-back exhaust on myself, so I guess I was breaking the law, only one catch it was a TRD cat-back exhaust purchased from a Toyota dealer, and I still had the receipt. After arguing with the local inspector that the truck could come stock with the exhaust and is a factory option I was referred to the state inspector who is in Boston. He was pretty cool and understood what I was saying....&quot;How can I amplify the sound of the exhaust if it is a stock option?&quot;. He said all I need is a letter typed up by the dealer or by Toyota with a Toyota letterhead stating that they sell the exhaust and is installed by Toyota and I will have no problems at all and I will get a passing inspection sticker. Easy right...WRONG. I went to the dealer where my wife and I purchased the truck from two short years ago and have been looking at purchasing a full size Tundra (roughly 32,000$), as we were walking in we saw one Tundra and three Tacoma&#039;s with the TRD exhaust installed and the exhaust was listed as a dealer option on the sticker! This is going to be easy I thought to myself, well the store manager refused to type or have anyone type out two lines on a piece of paper, claiming that he didn&#039;t want any legal ramifications and instead gave me Toyota&#039;s 800 customer service number. So I called the number, I was on the phone for over an hour and a half with a smart alleck woman. She claimed that I have to bring the Tacoma back to the dealer have them do some 200 point inspection, pay for it out of my own pocket and then MAYBE they can type something up for me. I told her I spent 24k of my hard earned money on this truck and planned on spending at least another 30 in the following month, they did not care. I told her Toyota will NEVER get another penny out of my pocket or my families, ever. Their customer service is bad. Needless to say I traded the truck in and now drive a 2006 Silverado. If anyone is thinking about buying a Toyota, think again, do a search on paint chips and engine ticking for the 05-06&#039;s, they have serious problems and Toyota refuses to fix. The 05&#039;s and some 06&#039;s came through with really cheap paint and it is peeling off the rocker panels. Toyota refused to re-paint unless you as the consumer purchased their running boards (which are ugly) and had them install them, which roughly costs five hundred dollars. The 4.0 V6 is a strong engine but it ticks terribly, there have been service bullitens about it, but once again Toyota refuses to fix the problem. Its too bad, most Toyota&#039;s are quality products, and I myself might buy a used one down the road if the price was right, but I will never buy new ever again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->At my friend Sajeev&#8217;s request, I have to tell about my experience with Toyota&#8217;s customer service. I purchased a 2004 (prev gen model&#8211;you know the ones with the steel beds not plastic) brand new in June 2004 for around 24,500. It was a fully loaded Access Cab, 4X4, TRD, V6, AT. I can still say without a doubt it was the best compact truck of that year, hands down, and I never had one single problem with it and loved driving it. But my problems came with Toyota itself. I went to get my truck inspected in June 2006, but I drove away with a reject sticker because the Registry Officer felt my exhaust was too loud. Massachusetts passed a law the past year that bans aftermarket exhaust which amplify the sound of the exhaust over stock. I did put a stainless steel cat-back exhaust on myself, so I guess I was breaking the law, only one catch it was a TRD cat-back exhaust purchased from a Toyota dealer, and I still had the receipt. After arguing with the local inspector that the truck could come stock with the exhaust and is a factory option I was referred to the state inspector who is in Boston. He was pretty cool and understood what I was saying&#8230;.&#8221;How can I amplify the sound of the exhaust if it is a stock option?&#8221;. He said all I need is a letter typed up by the dealer or by Toyota with a Toyota letterhead stating that they sell the exhaust and is installed by Toyota and I will have no problems at all and I will get a passing inspection sticker. Easy right&#8230;WRONG. I went to the dealer where my wife and I purchased the truck from two short years ago and have been looking at purchasing a full size Tundra (roughly 32,000$), as we were walking in we saw one Tundra and three Tacoma&#8217;s with the TRD exhaust installed and the exhaust was listed as a dealer option on the sticker! This is going to be easy I thought to myself, well the store manager refused to type or have anyone type out two lines on a piece of paper, claiming that he didn&#8217;t want any legal ramifications and instead gave me Toyota&#8217;s 800 customer service number. So I called the number, I was on the phone for over an hour and a half with a smart alleck woman. She claimed that I have to bring the Tacoma back to the dealer have them do some 200 point inspection, pay for it out of my own pocket and then MAYBE they can type something up for me. I told her I spent 24k of my hard earned money on this truck and planned on spending at least another 30 in the following month, they did not care. I told her Toyota will NEVER get another penny out of my pocket or my families, ever. Their customer service is bad. Needless to say I traded the truck in and now drive a 2006 Silverado. If anyone is thinking about buying a Toyota, think again, do a search on paint chips and engine ticking for the 05-06&#8217;s, they have serious problems and Toyota refuses to fix. The 05&#8217;s and some 06&#8217;s came through with really cheap paint and it is peeling off the rocker panels. Toyota refused to re-paint unless you as the consumer purchased their running boards (which are ugly) and had them install them, which roughly costs five hundred dollars. The 4.0 V6 is a strong engine but it ticks terribly, there have been service bullitens about it, but once again Toyota refuses to fix the problem. Its too bad, most Toyota&#8217;s are quality products, and I myself might buy a used one down the road if the price was right, but I will never buy new ever again.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Jefferson</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-7139</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second, and third everything said about our need for a third-world truck.

The Ballooned-up Gas-Guzzlers currently offered by Toyota &amp; Nissan are NOT small trucks.

I heard Kia may bring a real compact truck to the US market.  I bought a Toyota in the 70&#039;s, a Nissan Hardbody in the 80&#039;s, and a Mazda B2200 in the 90&#039;s.

Perhaps the Koreans will beat the Japanese using the strategy the Japanese employed to break the American market; reliable, cheap, durable vehicles for the REST of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I second, and third everything said about our need for a third-world truck.</p>
<p>The Ballooned-up Gas-Guzzlers currently offered by Toyota &amp; Nissan are NOT small trucks.</p>
<p>I heard Kia may bring a real compact truck to the US market.  I bought a Toyota in the 70&#8217;s, a Nissan Hardbody in the 80&#8217;s, and a Mazda B2200 in the 90&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Perhaps the Koreans will beat the Japanese using the strategy the Japanese employed to break the American market; reliable, cheap, durable vehicles for the REST of us.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: radimus</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-tacoma/comment-page-2/#comment-6940</link>
		<dc:creator>radimus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm.  What good are small trucks?  Good for lots of stuff.

If you need a truck for a daily driver, and whatever you&#039;re carrying is within the payload capacity, a small 2WD pickup is a good idea for its better gas mileage.  Their smaller size can also be a big advantage in urban settings.

If you&#039;re looking for something to horse around off-road with then a small 4x4 pickup can make a better choice than a full size one.  With a high-output V6 you can have a higher hp/lb ratio.  Install a lift kit and bigger, wider tires and you have a lower lb/sq ft ratio that helps keep from getting too bogged down in the mud.  The narrower chassis can also be better for handling rock piles.  There&#039;s more advantages in this dept, but that&#039;s fine for now.

Beyond much more than that, I think the full size trucks are more practical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hm.  What good are small trucks?  Good for lots of stuff.</p>
<p>If you need a truck for a daily driver, and whatever you&#8217;re carrying is within the payload capacity, a small 2WD pickup is a good idea for its better gas mileage.  Their smaller size can also be a big advantage in urban settings.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for something to horse around off-road with then a small 4&#215;4 pickup can make a better choice than a full size one.  With a high-output V6 you can have a higher hp/lb ratio.  Install a lift kit and bigger, wider tires and you have a lower lb/sq ft ratio that helps keep from getting too bogged down in the mud.  The narrower chassis can also be better for handling rock piles.  There&#8217;s more advantages in this dept, but that&#8217;s fine for now.</p>
<p>Beyond much more than that, I think the full size trucks are more practical.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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