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	<title>Comments on: Toyota September Sales Fall 32.3%</title>
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		<title>By: joeaverage</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-september-sales-fall-323/comment-page-1/#comment-821491</link>
		<dc:creator>joeaverage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are alot of redneck Tacoma 4x4 drivers around this small TN town. Not so many Nissan truck drivers but still alot of them too. 

The story I&#039;ve heard is a mid-szied truck is alot easier to navigate down a trail to your favorit hunting place. No, they don&#039;t drive right to the tree stand but getting closer helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->There are alot of redneck Tacoma 4&#215;4 drivers around this small TN town. Not so many Nissan truck drivers but still alot of them too. </p>
<p>The story I&#8217;ve heard is a mid-szied truck is alot easier to navigate down a trail to your favorit hunting place. No, they don&#8217;t drive right to the tree stand but getting closer helps.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-september-sales-fall-323/comment-page-1/#comment-815912</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 01:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dealers are always a problem. I tried to buy a Tundra and after getting the price down some 11K off MSRP for a Tundra they kept quoting me monthly payments at 20% interest rate. I was so pissed they kept focusing on the monthly payment I walked out and decided not to buy it. 

the next dealer I went to tried to tell me to pay MSRP for the Tundra. I told them the $5500 rebate on it and they dropped it to a few thousand. What a joke, I kept negotiating and they wanted the rebate. I said then give me 0% financing like the ad. They came back, again monthly payments added up to some 18% interest rate. I said go fuck yourself and walked out. They followed me like vultures out the door. 

I got calls from them again and again to come back. Then they said you probably can&#039;t afford it. I said, well at you&#039;re rates no one will. 

Greedy dealers are hurting and of course are getting dirtier and dirtier to their own detriment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Dealers are always a problem. I tried to buy a Tundra and after getting the price down some 11K off MSRP for a Tundra they kept quoting me monthly payments at 20% interest rate. I was so pissed they kept focusing on the monthly payment I walked out and decided not to buy it. </p>
<p>the next dealer I went to tried to tell me to pay MSRP for the Tundra. I told them the $5500 rebate on it and they dropped it to a few thousand. What a joke, I kept negotiating and they wanted the rebate. I said then give me 0% financing like the ad. They came back, again monthly payments added up to some 18% interest rate. I said go fuck yourself and walked out. They followed me like vultures out the door. </p>
<p>I got calls from them again and again to come back. Then they said you probably can&#8217;t afford it. I said, well at you&#8217;re rates no one will. </p>
<p>Greedy dealers are hurting and of course are getting dirtier and dirtier to their own detriment.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: golden2husky</title>
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		<dc:creator>golden2husky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What 63CorvairSpyder meant to say was:

“Redneck America will never drive Toyota pickups when they can buy a Chevy, Ford or Dodge for half price.”&lt;/em&gt;...

Funny, but &quot;redneck&quot; America didn&#039;t buy the Toyota pickup in numbers that were anywhere near the domestics even when there was normal pricing.  And that&#039;s only considering the current product, let alone the past ones...

Pickup buyers are the most loyal sheep there are, even more so than the Camcord flock.  And, like it or not, the domestics do a good job with pickups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>What 63CorvairSpyder meant to say was:</p>
<p>“Redneck America will never drive Toyota pickups when they can buy a Chevy, Ford or Dodge for half price.”</em>&#8230;</p>
<p>Funny, but &#8220;redneck&#8221; America didn&#8217;t buy the Toyota pickup in numbers that were anywhere near the domestics even when there was normal pricing.  And that&#8217;s only considering the current product, let alone the past ones&#8230;</p>
<p>Pickup buyers are the most loyal sheep there are, even more so than the Camcord flock.  And, like it or not, the domestics do a good job with pickups.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Raskolnikov</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-september-sales-fall-323/comment-page-1/#comment-815581</link>
		<dc:creator>Raskolnikov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shocking..because here in Indianapolis dealers have been offering $15000 off MSRP for the Tundra.  For the cash buyer...now is the time to get a truck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Shocking..because here in Indianapolis dealers have been offering $15000 off MSRP for the Tundra.  For the cash buyer&#8230;now is the time to get a truck.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: M1EK</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-september-sales-fall-323/comment-page-1/#comment-815552</link>
		<dc:creator>M1EK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The annual production for US of the Prius is about 120,000, last I heard, which means selling every one they make is 10,000 per month, give or take.

Last year&#039;s figures were higher because they were  selling everything they made plus burning through some hung over inventory from the few months when they didn&#039;t sell everything they made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The annual production for US of the Prius is about 120,000, last I heard, which means selling every one they make is 10,000 per month, give or take.</p>
<p>Last year&#8217;s figures were higher because they were  selling everything they made plus burning through some hung over inventory from the few months when they didn&#8217;t sell everything they made.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The fuel-sipping media darling Prius dropped some 13 percent to 10,873 sales this month. &lt;/em&gt;

Must be due to the anticipation of the Chevy Volt due out in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>The fuel-sipping media darling Prius dropped some 13 percent to 10,873 sales this month. </em></p>
<p>Must be due to the anticipation of the Chevy Volt due out in 2010.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: RobertSD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobertSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth, dear friends, is in the incentive numbers.  Ford, Toyota, Honda and Nissan all decreased their incentive spend for September.  GM and Chrysler upped it.

The Tundra has been on similar sales as the F-150, GMTs and Rams around here over the summer.  There&#039;s just no individual demand, which is what drives the Tundra.  I think Toyota&#039;s bump in TUndra August sales has hurt their September sales.

These are terrible numbers from Toyota, but not unepxected given the last few months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The truth, dear friends, is in the incentive numbers.  Ford, Toyota, Honda and Nissan all decreased their incentive spend for September.  GM and Chrysler upped it.</p>
<p>The Tundra has been on similar sales as the F-150, GMTs and Rams around here over the summer.  There&#8217;s just no individual demand, which is what drives the Tundra.  I think Toyota&#8217;s bump in TUndra August sales has hurt their September sales.</p>
<p>These are terrible numbers from Toyota, but not unepxected given the last few months.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: whatdoiknow1</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatdoiknow1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t resist taking a shot here:

Maybe GM is making more sales because they are still will to sell to anyone with a pulse today. While Toyota is not so willing to deal with folks with bad credit, they do not have to (as of yet).

Now the real question will be who has the higher total year sales and who turned a profit! 

I bet I could walk into a GM dealer with a unemployment check in hand, sign it over and  drive off with a car today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Can&#8217;t resist taking a shot here:</p>
<p>Maybe GM is making more sales because they are still will to sell to anyone with a pulse today. While Toyota is not so willing to deal with folks with bad credit, they do not have to (as of yet).</p>
<p>Now the real question will be who has the higher total year sales and who turned a profit! </p>
<p>I bet I could walk into a GM dealer with a unemployment check in hand, sign it over and  drive off with a car today!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: oldyak</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldyak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>best news Ive heard all month!
maybe ,just maybe,Americans that can buy a car are starting to consider domestics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->best news Ive heard all month!<br />
maybe ,just maybe,Americans that can buy a car are starting to consider domestics!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: 50merc</title>
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		<dc:creator>50merc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>monkeyboy: &quot;they tout the towing capacity over and over, and then boldly print in the owners manual, &#039;Do not tow a trailer over 86 deg F.&#039; &quot;

Huh? Please explain. Around here, most folks are out towing boats and camping trailers &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; it&#039;s summertime.&lt;i&gt; &lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->monkeyboy: &#8220;they tout the towing capacity over and over, and then boldly print in the owners manual, &#8216;Do not tow a trailer over 86 deg F.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>Huh? Please explain. Around here, most folks are out towing boats and camping trailers <i>because</i> it&#8217;s summertime.<i> </i><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Campisi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Campisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I find surprising about this is that Toyota sales fell considerably farther than GM sales did compared to September. Then again, a company in the black losing a whole bunch of sales is better than a company in the red losing any...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->The only thing I find surprising about this is that Toyota sales fell considerably farther than GM sales did compared to September. Then again, a company in the black losing a whole bunch of sales is better than a company in the red losing any&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: monkeyboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeyboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;redneck America will never drive Toyota PUs when they can buy a Chevy, Ford or Dodge. It’s a man thing.&quot;

Not at all. It&#039;s a brain thing. 

 When they tout the towing capacity over and over, and then boldly print in the owners manual, &quot;Do not tow a trailer over 86 deg F.&quot; And in another section, &quot;Do not manually select range &quot;1, 2, or 3 when towing on inclines.&quot; 

It&#039;s pretty much a no brainer as to their truthfulness on the product lineup.
Wonder exactly how deep that goes.


 Guess that speaks volumes of the average TMC buyer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8220;redneck America will never drive Toyota PUs when they can buy a Chevy, Ford or Dodge. It’s a man thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not at all. It&#8217;s a brain thing. </p>
<p> When they tout the towing capacity over and over, and then boldly print in the owners manual, &#8220;Do not tow a trailer over 86 deg F.&#8221; And in another section, &#8220;Do not manually select range &#8220;1, 2, or 3 when towing on inclines.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty much a no brainer as to their truthfulness on the product lineup.<br />
Wonder exactly how deep that goes.</p>
<p> Guess that speaks volumes of the average TMC buyer&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Wulv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wulv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends on where you are looking to buy, Full size dodge trucks in my neighborhood are going for over 50% off sticker.</description>
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		<title>By: OldandSlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldandSlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it is nearly half price, about a 40% on the big cab &quot;sleds&quot;, as I call them. A work truck with a single bench seat isn&#039;t yet discounted quite as much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Actually it is nearly half price, about a 40% on the big cab &#8220;sleds&#8221;, as I call them. A work truck with a single bench seat isn&#8217;t yet discounted quite as much.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: MgoBLUE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MgoBLUE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What 63CorvairSpyder meant to say was:

&quot;Redneck America will never drive Toyota pickups when they can buy a Chevy, Ford or Dodge &lt;strong&gt;for half price&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What 63CorvairSpyder meant to say was:</p>
<p>&#8220;Redneck America will never drive Toyota pickups when they can buy a Chevy, Ford or Dodge <strong>for half price</strong>.&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: windswords</title>
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		<dc:creator>windswords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just damn! The sky really is falling.</description>
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		<title>By: 200k-min</title>
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		<dc:creator>200k-min</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chances of a Tundra fire sale similar to the Dodge, Chevy &amp; Ford lots?  It&#039;s a nice Home Depot hauler for the right price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Any chances of a Tundra fire sale similar to the Dodge, Chevy &amp; Ford lots?  It&#8217;s a nice Home Depot hauler for the right price.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: quasimondo</title>
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		<dc:creator>quasimondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Toyota.  They&#039;ll be fine.  Petals and sprinkles for all!</description>
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		<title>By: NickR</title>
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		<dc:creator>NickR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to see the graphic accompanying the figures for Chrysler.  Justin, a contest?</description>
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		<title>By: Olyar15</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olyar15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, on the plus side, Toyota is doing well in Canada.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=478769bb-b716-4daa-b5b7-781d02b591df&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Well, on the plus side, Toyota is doing well in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: 63CorvairSpyder</title>
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		<dc:creator>63CorvairSpyder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...the new Camry is butt ugly. The Tundra is wishful thinking on Toyotas part, redneck America will never drive Toyota PUs when they can buy a Chevy, Ford or Dodge. It&#039;s a man thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->&#8230;the new Camry is butt ugly. The Tundra is wishful thinking on Toyotas part, redneck America will never drive Toyota PUs when they can buy a Chevy, Ford or Dodge. It&#8217;s a man thing.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: racebeer</title>
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		<dc:creator>racebeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not good .... not good at all.  The Tundra is withering on the vine.  The Camry numbers came as a real shock.  I think this is the first time that the GM trio of Malibu/G6/Aura has ever outsold the Camry (35,882 vs. 29,486).  The trainwreck is real for everyone.</description>
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