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	<title>Comments on: Toyota’s Mystery Solar Car Finally Sees The Light. In The Nikkei</title>
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		<title>By: nonce</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota%e2%80%99s-mystery-solar-car-finally-sees-the-light-in-the-nikkei/comment-page-1/#comment-1121242</link>
		<dc:creator>nonce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I find that hundreds of the links are for the very same Huffington post,&lt;/i&gt;

Probably because each individual comment can be linked to, and there is no strict definition of whether or not &quot;www.example.com/foo&quot; is the same as &quot;www.example.com/foo?comment=2&quot;.

So Google takes its best guess, and lets us override.

You&#039;re absolutely right that there aren&#039;t really 164,000 people who have posted this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><i>I find that hundreds of the links are for the very same Huffington post,</i></p>
<p>Probably because each individual comment can be linked to, and there is no strict definition of whether or not &#8220;www.example.com/foo&#8221; is the same as &#8220;www.example.com/foo?comment=2&#8243;.</p>
<p>So Google takes its best guess, and lets us override.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re absolutely right that there aren&#8217;t really 164,000 people who have posted this.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota%e2%80%99s-mystery-solar-car-finally-sees-the-light-in-the-nikkei/comment-page-1/#comment-1121142</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, didn&#039;t know that.

But when I do Google the phrase with quotes and go fairly deep into it, I find that hundreds of the links are for the very same Huffington post, dunno why.  I still find it inconceivable that there were 164,000 reprints of the AP piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Sorry, didn&#8217;t know that.</p>
<p>But when I do Google the phrase with quotes and go fairly deep into it, I find that hundreds of the links are for the very same Huffington post, dunno why.  I still find it inconceivable that there were 164,000 reprints of the AP piece.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Bertel Schmitt</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota%e2%80%99s-mystery-solar-car-finally-sees-the-light-in-the-nikkei/comment-page-1/#comment-1120941</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertel Schmitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@stephan:  If you place quotes around the search expression, as in &lt;i&gt;&quot;Toyota Secretly Developing Solar Powered Green Car&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  then you are supposed to get only hits for that sentence, which was the headline of the original AP story. If you follow the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;q=%22Toyota+Secretly+Developing+Solar+Powered+Green+Car%22&amp;start=40&amp;sa=N&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt; Google Link &lt;/b&gt; &lt;/a&gt; you should find only mentions of that exact sentence. You can do same with &quot;Stephan Wilkinson&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->@stephan:  If you place quotes around the search expression, as in <i>&#8220;Toyota Secretly Developing Solar Powered Green Car&#8221;</i>  then you are supposed to get only hits for that sentence, which was the headline of the original AP story. If you follow the <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;client=firefox-a&#038;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&#038;q=%22Toyota+Secretly+Developing+Solar+Powered+Green+Car%22&#038;start=40&#038;sa=N" rel="nofollow"><b> Google Link </b> </a> you should find only mentions of that exact sentence. You can do same with &#8220;Stephan Wilkinson&#8221;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nonce</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota%e2%80%99s-mystery-solar-car-finally-sees-the-light-in-the-nikkei/comment-page-1/#comment-1120881</link>
		<dc:creator>nonce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephan, there were quotes around the google phrase.  That should only match articles containing the whole phrase.

Although when I actually go through the results I hit this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 98 already displayed.
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So there are maybe only 98 entries on the Internet, with 163,902 duplicates of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Stephan, there were quotes around the google phrase.  That should only match articles containing the whole phrase.</p>
<p>Although when I actually go through the results I hit this:</p>
<blockquote><p>In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 98 already displayed.<br />
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.</p></blockquote>
<p>So there are maybe only 98 entries on the Internet, with 163,902 duplicates of it.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Kurt.</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota%e2%80%99s-mystery-solar-car-finally-sees-the-light-in-the-nikkei/comment-page-1/#comment-1120441</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I am not an Electrical Engineer, but...

...looking forward - with regenerative braking, solar charging, and other means to charge a (future) battery pack, it might just be feasible to have a &quot;free/low cost to operate&quot; car. 

Of course I AM a conspiracy theorist so I am sure the companies that PRODUCE electricity and gas would never allow solar (or wind for that matter) power to gain any more than a token market share!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->OK, I am not an Electrical Engineer, but&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;looking forward &#8211; with regenerative braking, solar charging, and other means to charge a (future) battery pack, it might just be feasible to have a &#8220;free/low cost to operate&#8221; car. </p>
<p>Of course I AM a conspiracy theorist so I am sure the companies that PRODUCE electricity and gas would never allow solar (or wind for that matter) power to gain any more than a token market share!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota%e2%80%99s-mystery-solar-car-finally-sees-the-light-in-the-nikkei/comment-page-1/#comment-1120412</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Wilkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so naive--but very common--to assume the &quot;number of hits&quot; figure that Google issues (164,000 in this case) represents the number of times a specific subject has been mentioned.  The Google algorithm will list hits not only for &quot;Toyota solar car&quot; but for solar cars in general, Toyotas in general, solar energy, and eventually even cars in general.

If you actually penetrate the &quot;164,000&quot; references, you&#039;ll see that by about number 350 they&#039;re down to linking to a reference to a &quot;Toyota solar-powered keychain,&quot; whatever that is.

It must amuse the hell out of the Google people, since everybody does it.  I&#039;ll bet if I Google my own name I&#039;ll get thousands of hits.  20 of them will be me and 10,000 will be every Stephan and every Wilkinson reference on the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->It&#8217;s so naive&#8211;but very common&#8211;to assume the &#8220;number of hits&#8221; figure that Google issues (164,000 in this case) represents the number of times a specific subject has been mentioned.  The Google algorithm will list hits not only for &#8220;Toyota solar car&#8221; but for solar cars in general, Toyotas in general, solar energy, and eventually even cars in general.</p>
<p>If you actually penetrate the &#8220;164,000&#8243; references, you&#8217;ll see that by about number 350 they&#8217;re down to linking to a reference to a &#8220;Toyota solar-powered keychain,&#8221; whatever that is.</p>
<p>It must amuse the hell out of the Google people, since everybody does it.  I&#8217;ll bet if I Google my own name I&#8217;ll get thousands of hits.  20 of them will be me and 10,000 will be every Stephan and every Wilkinson reference on the Internet.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: KixStart</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota%e2%80%99s-mystery-solar-car-finally-sees-the-light-in-the-nikkei/comment-page-1/#comment-1120332</link>
		<dc:creator>KixStart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even at the limitations of current technology, there&#039;s probably a role for solar at least in keeping the car cool while it&#039;s parked.  Excess electricity, if any, could be fed to the batteries.

A flat 15 ft**2 panel generates 200 watts at peak.  In an hour, it&#039;s the juice necessary to go a mile.

That&#039;s not a lot but it&#039;s also not so bad.  If something conformable to the aerodynamic surface of the vehicle can be engineered, at reasonable cost and efficiency, it will probably make its way into the market.

It wouldn&#039;t be the worst gimmick ever put onto/into a car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Even at the limitations of current technology, there&#8217;s probably a role for solar at least in keeping the car cool while it&#8217;s parked.  Excess electricity, if any, could be fed to the batteries.</p>
<p>A flat 15 ft**2 panel generates 200 watts at peak.  In an hour, it&#8217;s the juice necessary to go a mile.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a lot but it&#8217;s also not so bad.  If something conformable to the aerodynamic surface of the vehicle can be engineered, at reasonable cost and efficiency, it will probably make its way into the market.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be the worst gimmick ever put onto/into a car.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Edward Niedermeyer</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota%e2%80%99s-mystery-solar-car-finally-sees-the-light-in-the-nikkei/comment-page-1/#comment-1120251</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Niedermeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a wild story. I thought it was already as crazy as it could get, but it just keeps coming. Then again, I do expect a solar car to hit the market well before a new golden age of print media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What a wild story. I thought it was already as crazy as it could get, but it just keeps coming. Then again, I do expect a solar car to hit the market well before a new golden age of print media.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Evan is a Robot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan is a Robot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just so happen to be the electrical director of my college&#039;s solar car team, and I can say without a doubt that a solar powered car is NOT feasible in the real world.

Our solar array is roughly 9 square meters, cost $40,000, and generates the equivalent of about 2 hp with 20% efficient solar cells. Even if the cells were 100% efficient, you would still only get ~10 hp.

The thing is crazy fun to drive, though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I just so happen to be the electrical director of my college&#8217;s solar car team, and I can say without a doubt that a solar powered car is NOT feasible in the real world.</p>
<p>Our solar array is roughly 9 square meters, cost $40,000, and generates the equivalent of about 2 hp with 20% efficient solar cells. Even if the cells were 100% efficient, you would still only get ~10 hp.</p>
<p>The thing is crazy fun to drive, though&#8230;<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: nonce</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota%e2%80%99s-mystery-solar-car-finally-sees-the-light-in-the-nikkei/comment-page-1/#comment-1120201</link>
		<dc:creator>nonce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like electric cars, and I like solar, but solar cars are just dumb.

If you could get two square meters of solar panels that converted sunlight to electricity at 100% efficiency (in the real world we&#039;re around 20%), one hour of pure sunlight would get you about 2Kwh, which would go about ten miles.

This is avoiding the extra cost and maintenance of solar panels flying around town at 50mph.

If you want solar, put it on your house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I like electric cars, and I like solar, but solar cars are just dumb.</p>
<p>If you could get two square meters of solar panels that converted sunlight to electricity at 100% efficiency (in the real world we&#8217;re around 20%), one hour of pure sunlight would get you about 2Kwh, which would go about ten miles.</p>
<p>This is avoiding the extra cost and maintenance of solar panels flying around town at 50mph.</p>
<p>If you want solar, put it on your house.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: guyincognito</title>
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		<dc:creator>guyincognito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey don&#039;t be such a downer. Solar cars are completely feasible, just so long as you don&#039;t mind driving laying down in a wing shaped vehicle that seats one and can only drive continuously on flat ground during perfectly cloudless days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Hey don&#8217;t be such a downer. Solar cars are completely feasible, just so long as you don&#8217;t mind driving laying down in a wing shaped vehicle that seats one and can only drive continuously on flat ground during perfectly cloudless days.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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