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	<title>Comments on: TN Gov. Hearts Scameras</title>
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		<title>By: brush</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tn-gov-hearts-scameras/comment-page-1/#comment-1004601</link>
		<dc:creator>brush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you guy&#039;s need is the photo and the ticket for a datsun 120y doing 120km/h in a 100 zone.


When questioned, she said the car was not capable of that speed, the authorities said &quot;The camera system is working ok&quot;. The owner of the car (and a tv station) hired a professional race driver to drive her car and he could only get it up to 80km/h. The goverment investigated and found that ALL of the cameras falsely triggering. The goverment then had to reimburse all of the fines gathered during the time the cameras were switched on. They then spent more money trying to find a system that (1) could actually calibrate the camera&#039;s and (2) no false positives.

look up Melbourne&#039;s Western Ring Road camera fiasco</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->What you guy&#8217;s need is the photo and the ticket for a datsun 120y doing 120km/h in a 100 zone.</p>
<p>When questioned, she said the car was not capable of that speed, the authorities said &#8220;The camera system is working ok&#8221;. The owner of the car (and a tv station) hired a professional race driver to drive her car and he could only get it up to 80km/h. The goverment investigated and found that ALL of the cameras falsely triggering. The goverment then had to reimburse all of the fines gathered during the time the cameras were switched on. They then spent more money trying to find a system that (1) could actually calibrate the camera&#8217;s and (2) no false positives.</p>
<p>look up Melbourne&#8217;s Western Ring Road camera fiasco<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tn-gov-hearts-scameras/comment-page-1/#comment-1004151</link>
		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“If any reasonable justification for the law may be conceived, it must be upheld by the courts,” Cooper said, citing the Tennessee Court of Appeals. “Absent implication of a fundamental right, a legislative act will withstand a substantive due process challenge if the government identifies a legitimate governmental interest that the legislative body could rationally conclude was served by the legislative act.”&lt;/em&gt;

Silly me, I thought due process was a &quot;fundamental right.&quot;  In today&#039;s world, it seems that the government can identify a &quot;legitimate governmental interest&quot; in just about everything.  To make the further statement &quot;that the legislative body could rationally conclude was served by the legislative act&quot; means the legislative branch of the government determines what constitutes a &quot;legitimate governmental interest&quot; and basically throws out the constitution.  The court system is then no more than a rubber stamp for every act of the legislative and/or executive branches of the government.  Remind anybody of a previous cold war enemy of ours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>“If any reasonable justification for the law may be conceived, it must be upheld by the courts,” Cooper said, citing the Tennessee Court of Appeals. “Absent implication of a fundamental right, a legislative act will withstand a substantive due process challenge if the government identifies a legitimate governmental interest that the legislative body could rationally conclude was served by the legislative act.”</em></p>
<p>Silly me, I thought due process was a &#8220;fundamental right.&#8221;  In today&#8217;s world, it seems that the government can identify a &#8220;legitimate governmental interest&#8221; in just about everything.  To make the further statement &#8220;that the legislative body could rationally conclude was served by the legislative act&#8221; means the legislative branch of the government determines what constitutes a &#8220;legitimate governmental interest&#8221; and basically throws out the constitution.  The court system is then no more than a rubber stamp for every act of the legislative and/or executive branches of the government.  Remind anybody of a previous cold war enemy of ours?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: TaxedAndConfused</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tn-gov-hearts-scameras/comment-page-1/#comment-1003821</link>
		<dc:creator>TaxedAndConfused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get used to it folks !  We (Uk) have had this for a while, as you know. 

We are told that we are not allowed to question whether the equipment works - even though there are doubts. If it is &quot;type approved&quot; then no court will accept arguments questioning whether they work.

So the only defence is to prove that they are not calibrated or operated correctly. We even still have type approved equipment which is banned in the US.

And when they are installed they will argue that there is less of a need for traffic cops - you know, those people who catch dangerous people.

Here the speed limit on motorways is 70. I can drive perfectly safely on an empty one, in dry weather and good visibility at 80. I have done, and passed cops doing so - not been stopped, but a scamera would convict me.

At the same time I can drive like a complete loon at 65, highly dangerous and a scamera won&#039;t even flash. Madness, unfortunately thats how Tony Blair liked it.

Some police forces in the UK no longer even have a &quot;traffic&quot; division.</description>
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<p>We are told that we are not allowed to question whether the equipment works &#8211; even though there are doubts. If it is &#8220;type approved&#8221; then no court will accept arguments questioning whether they work.</p>
<p>So the only defence is to prove that they are not calibrated or operated correctly. We even still have type approved equipment which is banned in the US.</p>
<p>And when they are installed they will argue that there is less of a need for traffic cops &#8211; you know, those people who catch dangerous people.</p>
<p>Here the speed limit on motorways is 70. I can drive perfectly safely on an empty one, in dry weather and good visibility at 80. I have done, and passed cops doing so &#8211; not been stopped, but a scamera would convict me.</p>
<p>At the same time I can drive like a complete loon at 65, highly dangerous and a scamera won&#8217;t even flash. Madness, unfortunately thats how Tony Blair liked it.</p>
<p>Some police forces in the UK no longer even have a &#8220;traffic&#8221; division.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: montgomery burns</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tn-gov-hearts-scameras/comment-page-1/#comment-1003312</link>
		<dc:creator>montgomery burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;golf4me&lt;/em&gt;

No this is a common problem on both sides. Reasons for big, intrusive, Constitution bending government:

Democrat: Everything needs to be safe all the time everywhere! We don&#039;t want to hurt peoples feelings! There needs to be special exceptions for some people! Think of the children!

Republican: Terra! We&#039;ve got to do something about those drug-crazed, pornography addicted, flag burning, pro-abortion criminals! Did I say TERRA!? And would you please think of the children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>golf4me</em></p>
<p>No this is a common problem on both sides. Reasons for big, intrusive, Constitution bending government:</p>
<p>Democrat: Everything needs to be safe all the time everywhere! We don&#8217;t want to hurt peoples feelings! There needs to be special exceptions for some people! Think of the children!</p>
<p>Republican: Terra! We&#8217;ve got to do something about those drug-crazed, pornography addicted, flag burning, pro-abortion criminals! Did I say TERRA!? And would you please think of the children?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Turbo G</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tn-gov-hearts-scameras/comment-page-1/#comment-1002971</link>
		<dc:creator>Turbo G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scameras!  That is just great!</description>
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		<title>By: golf4me</title>
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		<dc:creator>golf4me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keyword = Democrat. Get used to more of this, folks. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised to see the 55mph limit reinsated along with thousands of cameras on the interstate system to pay for that 700b bailout!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->Keyword = Democrat. Get used to more of this, folks. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised to see the 55mph limit reinsated along with thousands of cameras on the interstate system to pay for that 700b bailout!<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;The appeals court made similar arguments in a July decision that stated there is no problem in allowing prosecutors to presume the owner of a vehicle is guilty.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, everyone is guilty under tyranny. Where would be the fun and profit in having law-abiding citizens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start --><em>The appeals court made similar arguments in a July decision that stated there is no problem in allowing prosecutors to presume the owner of a vehicle is guilty.</em></p>
<p>Yes, everyone is guilty under tyranny. Where would be the fun and profit in having law-abiding citizens?<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jerome10</title>
		<link>http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/tn-gov-hearts-scameras/comment-page-1/#comment-1002621</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerome10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how &quot;bringing a budget back in line&quot; almost always includes some way of getting more cash from people and rarely includes any sort of meaningful cutback in spending.

A-Holes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->I love how &#8220;bringing a budget back in line&#8221; almost always includes some way of getting more cash from people and rarely includes any sort of meaningful cutback in spending.</p>
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		<title>By: autonut</title>
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		<dc:creator>autonut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from &quot;government here to help us&quot; chapter. based on my experience in NYC, you get a blurry picture with something resembling your ride and $50 ticket attached. There is no way prosecutor can present anything resembling lawful about it, but who would spend a day in court for $50? FYI, parking offense cost $186 in NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!-- google_ad_section_start -->This is from &#8220;government here to help us&#8221; chapter. based on my experience in NYC, you get a blurry picture with something resembling your ride and $50 ticket attached. There is no way prosecutor can present anything resembling lawful about it, but who would spend a day in court for $50? FYI, parking offense cost $186 in NYC.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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